This is why that isn't the ruined King in Kindred's splash.

GenoXx··9 votes·2,901 views

When buying Blade of the ruined king- - I personally tested this they say "Forged in a land unwelcomed to us."

There that settles it. Although I still wonder how the Shadow Isle's inhabitants respond to Kindred.

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Karn Bishop4 votes

Well yes if you attempted to have a lands king die you'd probably be VERY unwelcome there.

GenoXx1 votes

Well lol It was the King who destroyed the land, not Kindred.

Karn Bishop1 votes

The point being the ruined king still rules the land and its denizens serve him willingly, the fact he "destroyed" the land doesn't matter to his people.

GenoXx1 votes

ahaha I think it does matter. At least Kalista is a main thing here. She despises him after what has happen. He's responsible for her current state.

Karn Bishop1 votes

kindred attempting to kill the ruined king would make kindred unwelcome to the shadow isles which now defy death, the land was changed but that has nothing to do with the kindred / ruined king relationship.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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kindred attempting to kill the ruined king would make kindred unwelcome to the shadow isles which now defy death, the land was changed but that has nothing to do with the kindred / ruined king relationship.

Wolf do not "attempt to kill", he "always win"... and once he kills you, there is no coming back. So, its impossible that they killed the Ruined King... because if they did, the incident of the shadow isles would never occurred. Maybe its the Prince of the Shadow Isles or someone else before that "incident" but it cant be THE Ruined King item 3153

Karn Bishop1 votes

Did you not read the attempted part? as in they failed to kill him forever, also the fact that karthus, sion still live and immortals exist proves there are beings that can defy them or find loopholes.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Did you not read the attempted part? as in they failed to kill him forever, also the fact that karthus, sion still live and immortals exist proves there are beings that can defy them or find loopholes.

Have you heard their quotes? They NEVER fail in killing their prey, the ones who come back from the death will encounter Wolf and he will kill them forever.

Karn Bishop2 votes

wolf is like a braggart child, and children like to brag.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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wolf is like a braggart child, and children like to brag.

Lamb also says that they never fail in killing their prey, in fact, she is the one who reaffirms it.

https://youtu.be/L5ZQMCIU96g?t=281

Once you are marked by Kindred, the death is inevitable.

Karn Bishop1 votes

why do you ignore champions they have failed to kill or otherwise cannot or will not kill? they are not perfect beings and they can be out played and tricked otherwise sion could never have revived, and the ascended wouldn't be immortal.

in short, yes that is indeed the ruined king, they attempted to end him and failed to do so, heck the splash art is even clearly in the shadow isles, you can see the lands life starting to decay and only a small grassy part still lives where he lays bleeding out, his crown is embedded in the ground where it fell, heck the trigger for the spell was probably him dying which then revived him as the ruined king.

"Once, he was a noble king, until grief overcame his reason. In the end, it was not his blade that stole our lives." ― KalistaSquare.png Kalista

Here Kalista describes the nations downfall, she implies that in the end the king was not responsible for the death of their people, so she blames the king but not completely, interesting.

"The powers that govern life and death are not to be trifled with. The Shattered Crown is a king’s reward for defying the shadows’ embrace. I believe we are meant to ponder mortality through poetry and verse, not enslave it to our will." ― Ionian storyteller

Here we have a tale describing punishment for researching ways to defy death, along with all of this we know the spell was originally meant to bring the kings daughter back to life, but maybe kindred killed him during the ritual but instead of the spell stopping it latched onto the king instead and arose as a member of the undead bringing his whole kingdom with him.

To me this heavily implies that kindred did kill the ruined king but did so as the king was casting the spell and so without a target the spell hit the caster and the entire kingdom in which he ruled, Shurima suffered a similar fate when xerath interfered with the ritual disrupting the the intention of the magic but not stopping it.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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why do you ignore champions they have failed to kill or otherwise cannot or will not kill? they are not perfect beings and they can be out played and tricked otherwise sion could never have revived, and the ascended wouldn't be immortal.

Who said that there are persons that they failed to kill? Those undeads could have been killed by someone/something else... after all, we also know, thanks to their quotes, that others can kill their "prey", before they reach them.

The Immortals ((Kayle, Ascended, Zilean etc)) in other hand are also described by Lamb as the "few" that are match for them.

Ralanr1 votes

The undead defy them. But that does not mean they have failed to hunt them.

They just haven't gotten around to it yet. They are still chasing.

Ralanr2 votes

Wasn't the Ruined King trying to bypass the boundaries of life and death?

That tells me Kindred got involved.

GenoXx1 votes

Maybe, it only gets involve if it's their time to die. What the king did is out of the Natural order. So I would say he ws not involve. Remember, the Shadow Isles are what they are because of Magic. Death magic at that. Necromancy.

Ralanr2 votes

But the shadow isles is a place where spirits and mortals intertwine right? Kindred might have come out when that happened.

The personification of death isn't normally so literal.

Caytheles1 votes

Nice, i would love to know more about her, Mind sharing your thoughts on my post? http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/hEcxEK72-bard-and-kindred

GenoXx1 votes

huh, why there?

Caytheles1 votes

Doesnt have to be on mine, But what do you think is the Relation between kindred and Bard? cureous

GenoXx1 votes

I answered this to Sharjo in another thread. I believe it's because their both celestial beings. Well at least they aren't of the regular plane.

OverpoweredSoap1 votes

I'd imagine they wouldn't be welcome if they were the ones that brought him to his demise.

Blade of Justic1 votes

If the land is unwelcomed to them, wouldn't that give them more of a reason to kill the king of said land?

Ralanr1 votes

Only if the land threatened them.

Sinister Mars1 votes

I miss lore.

Ralanr2 votes

I enjoy speculation. I see these celestial champions as a wider attempt at world building (someone else brought this up before me). With the institute gone, they have freedom to expand beyond the mortal boundaries.

They already did that, but they had to give an excuse as to why they stayed within the league. It's a bit better this way to be honest, I enjoy speculating what they could mean.

Sadly I know that speculation is often different from the actual thing. I've been on the creating side of stories (nothing big) and I can bet someone can speculate better conclusions than I plan.

Sinister Mars2 votes

It seems less thought out and less purposeful than the backstories of old. The rivalriy of Demacia and Noxus, the conflict in Freljord, even the interplay of the Shadow Isles champions, Ionia, etc. All those things helped immerse the player in a world. Now the development has turned kooky and unconnected. It's not far fetched to think that we'll soon have dinosaurs fighting against aliens, cowboys, samurai, sea monsters, and whatnot. Actually, we've already arrived there, I think to the detriment of the League of Legends theme and atmosphere.

Ralanr1 votes

Considering what had existed in league before? We already had the kooky issue. The reason no one was bothered was because we had a reason that explained it well through the institute.

Yes it's disconnected now. I don't know how they'll combine it, but I do enjoy that they are expanding it. Personally I think the sudden increase of spiritual champions means that something on a global scale is coming in lore.

Possibly a rune war.

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