I know that we're still waiting for lore, but so far it seems like every other region has either an internal, external, or both forms of conflict. I don't even see the point of Demacia vs. Noxus since Demacia is holed up in the mountains.
RiotRiotJaredan16 votesI wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet?
Hmm.
Yup, feels about right.
Chromatic Eagle2 votesQuinn was sent to scout out the Freljord. Is there a reason for Demacia to be concerned?
ProtestantCaesar1 votesWell, Ivern probably isn't the only Freljordian conquistador.
HalfTangible2 votesWell duh, Demacia has a vested interest in the Iceborn not retur-
Oh wait you mean ones that they KNOW about?
If the Freljord united into a single empire, they would be very close by Demacia and thus would be a major shake-up to their foreign policy. Imagine if the entirety of Africa united into a single federation.
RogueWill2 votesthen you woudl have a big poor country instead of several poor ones and a few rich ones.
HalfTangible1 votesYes, but it would still be a massive shift in the political landscape.
Requiemsfire1 voteshttp://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/piltover/medarda-heirloom
You might notice that the freijlord and Demacia are side by side from eachother or at least in the same direction according to the Ionian map and thus it makes it a possible avenue by which to attack Demacia for Noxian invaders. Furthermore, Demacia might aid a side in the war to pursue interests in the region because of it's natural resources and unique magical learnings. Demacia might also be looking to stabilize some kind of relation with freijordian tribes for similar reasons.
DragonShea1 voteshttp://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/piltover/medarda-heirloom
You might notice that the freijlord and Demacia are side by side from eachother or at least in the same direction according to the Ionian map and thus it makes it a possible avenue by which to attack Demacia for Noxian invaders. Furthermore, Demacia might aid a side in the war to pursue interests in the region because of it's natural resources and unique magical learnings. Demacia might also be looking to stabilize some kind of relation with freijordian tribes for similar reasons.
Demacia would dare best with both the Avarosian, so-so with the Frostguard and have some serious beef with the winters claw. if the former two unite, noxus would be in serious trouble.
RogueWill1 votesIonia and bandle city are friendly with Demacia, although both of them is more as a way of protection from Noxus.
As intern conflict you have the different families. Specifically garen and fiora families, both are loya to the king but not really friendly between them.
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Quinn was sent to scout out the Freljord. Is there a reason for Demacia to be concerned?
If they aknowledge the fan won faction of the Frostguard as the winner of the Civil War...then yes.
RiotRiotJaredan5 votesOh good lord yes.
MistroTTC1 votesWill that have anything to do with Tamera (the noxus spy from one of the piltover stories) and the stuff the criminal from Caitlyn's short story was getting for Noxus?
Dreampod1 votesNothing to worry about - Just the Frozen Watcher's awakening to encase the entire planet in another ice age...no biggie.
Darius Strada6 votesI wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet?
Hmm.
Yup, feels about right.
Pl-Please don't tease us... Just give us already.
warpenguin5551 votesI'm guessing we will find out more from Galio right?
Bellows1 votesI wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet?
Hmm.
Yup, feels about right.
Im very sure Demacia feels very strongly against the Void faction and the Bilgewater factions. As well as the shadow isles. These are all corrupt places that Demacia would like to "cleanse with justice" so to speak.
GenoXx2 votesPossibly another super power country in Valoran unknown to fans?
Whyte Lyon1 votesThat's wishful thinking but I really really hope so too.
Western Valoran is essentially just the Kingdom of Demacia and South West Shurima atm. Where as the Eastern side of Valoran has the Shadow Isles, Serpent Isles, Ionia, Noxus, Piltover/Zaun and South West Shurima (IDK for sure but maybe Icathia as well).
I mean the East seems like the far more interesting side of the world, hopefully there's plans to change that.
GenoXx1 votesI hope that there is more to Runeterra than Just Valoran.....
YouCantClickThis1 votesI wouldn't be overly concerned about Demacia having enough internal and external conflicts. They're there, and have a variety of reasons. And Noxus isn't the only other region Demacia would be concerned about. Have I teased enough yet?
Hmm.
Yup, feels about right.
Nah we could use more.
Sharjo11 votesWell I mean Noxus still has huge incentive to take over Demacia considering how resource rich their lands are comparatively to the empire's, but Noxus also has other things to consider, such as potentially re-invading Ionia with different strategies, taking over more of the Southern Continent, potentially taking over Piltover, getting more of a handle on this whole "hextech" business, etc, so it's not like that conflict is the defacto storyling for Noxus anymore when it comes to interacting with other nations.
Just because Demacia's sticking to itself doesn't mean it's devoid of interaction with other areas of the world. I mean Ionia was that for ages and now look at it; enemies with Noxus, kind interested in Piltover and their hextech, presumably got Bilgewater pirates to deal with, etc. Demacia's at least gonna have Freljordians to compliment the Noxian attacks.
There's probably a lot more internal struggle in Demacia atm considering how the champions are. We see folks like Taric and Jarvan showcasing a different kind of thought process that's counter to Demacia's dogmatic traditions and policies, and you've got champions within Demacia that by their very nature question their conventional thinking, such as Lux, Poppy, Galio, Sona, Shyvana, Quinn, potentially Xin Zhao, etc. I mean let's look at that for a second:
I feel like Demacia's got a lot of potential thinking to do about how it considers itself and its place in the world. For that reason I'd say J4's perhaps the most important character in the overall Demacia narrative at the moment, if this line of thinking has anything going for it. I'd say that's a pretty interesting story.
tl;dr Demacia's a nation of folks wary about magic and insular, but also has magical folks and immigrants within their aristocracy, has magical beings guarding its borders and has its prince having good friend in what amounts to a peasant girl and a half bred monster. A lot of story potential there.
GreenLore3 votesI kinda agree here,most nations have their own conflicts,but demacia seems pretty stable.
But then again you have to keep in mind that Demacia barely got any lore at all since the retcon.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesI really don't feel Demacia will be bland.
Just by their art pieces in the Universe tab you can see the grandeur and splender the place as to offer.
I have high hopes.
After all there is a reason Demacians yell DEMACIA!!!
LordHippoman2 votesMy only major worry with Demacia is that, in their attempts to make Noxus less mustache-twirlingly evil, which was a big community complaint that Riot seems to be really trying to fix, they'll end up making Demacia the obvious villains.
They could go from "rigid but fair" to "kill everyone who puts a toe out of line", but with how solid the region reworks have been, I'm not super worried about it.
DragonShea2 votesMy only major worry with Demacia is that, in their attempts to make Noxus less mustache-twirlingly evil, which was a big community complaint that Riot seems to be really trying to fix, they'll end up making Demacia the obvious villains.
They could go from "rigid but fair" to "kill everyone who puts a toe out of line", but with how solid the region reworks have been, I'm not super worried about it.
Demacia is that kind of place that looks like it's all justice and fairness but also strict as fuck. but in reality, are a nation that indoctrinates and forces people to it's bidding or else suffer for it. Fiora is a rebel and she is on their shitlist because she is giving her sexy ass up for some sexist pig and she has every right to do so. In comparison, Noxus is like, "we ain't forcing you to follow us, it's sink or swim".
Both Demacia and Noxus is akin to white vs grey morality but in behind the scenes, they are black as fuck, we just don't know how far with Demacia but the hint is with Lux as she is fucked in the head but doesn't express it like the joker would have.
HalfTangible1 votesI am.
Something I like about the recent lore updates is that each of the locations since the Freljord updates (with a few obvious exceptions - see Shadow Isles) have taken some major idea (rising power in the Freljord, ambition in Bilgewater, scientific progress in Piltover and 'rebellion against the system' in Zaun) and shown us both its good and bad sides. In Piltover you have major scientific advances that unquestionably have made the lives of its citizens better, but you also have an elitist aristocracy that is completely willing to dump its s#@$ onto Zaun (literally, in one case). Sejuani and Ashe represent the good/ugly aspects of their respective ideals, and also show glaring holes in the other's ideas. (Lissandra far less so) Targon took religious faith and turned it up to 11 with the Aspects, Shurima wants to Make Shurima Great Again, etc etc. The updates have introduced intrigue and nuance without removing what made the regions interesting and special in the first place.
Demacia even in the old lore was big on tradition and honor; they're the archetypal 'shining city on the hill' (or at least see themselves as such). My big concern is how they're going to handle "tradition and honor" as concepts in Demacia; Fiora's lore hinted that the tradition and customs are there primarily to cover up how bloody the city actually is; what I liked about it was that the traditions were still considered important and worth following, but that could easily just be Fiora's coloring of the situation.
I'm worried that they're either going to make Demacia's attitude entirely a facade (imo weakening them as a faction in the process), make them unquestionably wrong (as "traditional" nations often are) or pull an Ultramarines and have everything interesting be s#@$ that breaks from Demacia's customs.
This here, from Demacia's page:
Some suggest that the golden age of Demacia has passed and unless it is able to adapt to a changing world – something many believe it is simply incapable of doing – that its decline is inevitable.
I'm not saying this isn't a realistic way for a nation built on tradition to begin to fall, but it's also very predictable and generic. It might be interesting if Demacia had an actual chance of falling but because it's pretty integral to the League of Legends lore it's probably not gonna. ('course I could be wrong)
l Helios l1 votesDoes that mean Noxus would be...the spiciest???
Sorry. I'll leave.
Ultîma1 votesDemacia probably has some of the most eclectic cast of characters actually.
You have the righteous champions of justice with Garen, Lux, Poppy, Xin, Quinn and Jarvan. I'd say each of them represent the pinnacle of Demacian society with regards to their strengths and devotion to their country. But then you have Fiora, the estranged noble who is carving a bloody path throughout Demacian nobility to restore (and possibly elevate) her house's name - by right of law I might add.
Vayne and Lucian are also both interesting figures, as they act specifically against the occult and creatures of the shadow isles as killers of a sort. Though they may be acting in the interest of the living, who knows if there isn't a deeper meaning behind their hunt.
It's worth noting that Taric was also Demacian, and his failure as a commander sentenced him to an exile which should have resulted in his death.
I feel as though Demacian society is a lot more ruthless than their ideals would make you believe. They boast that they stand for courage, justice, etc, but in truth there are a lot of parallels between them and Noxus. I would merely argue that where Noxus is an expansionist empire, Demacia is more isolationist.