[PSA] Can we stop with the Splash Arts and instead...

Acolyte of Steel·1/7/2015, 12:11:40 AM·11 votes·1,661 views

...get around to actually defining what each champion mean to us as a whole before we confuse Riot to shite?

Look S&A, Riot has already shown with Blood Moon Elise and Ahri's splash that they're genuinely trying to meet the community in the middle AT LEAST in the Skins and Champion Design departments. If we keep giving them conflicting information, they're going to give up.

And for good reason! Saying yes, then no, then yes then no again is a ridiculous game of cat-and-mouse that always ends in, "If there's always gonna be people that don't like it, then we can do what we want! :D"

As a community, let's try to start putting out some constructive, concise collections of...

  • What each champion means to the over-all community,
  • Why we feel this way,
  • What we feel would be positive input going forward (at least for now - baby steps,)
  • and sit down, really draft up some solid, well-thought-out doors our champions can walk though both in gameplay and lore.

It's obvious they're stumbling around in the dark trying to meet us somewhere. Even if they're blind as bats and have as much attention span as a haggard drunken idiot, we can't just let them hobble around if we want anything to get done. They're trying. We can work on teaching them to sober up and run with the torch laaater. Let's just decide on specific stuff as a community. That's what bumping and upvoting is for. There will be more room to tweak stuff later, but get on the ball before we miss our windows.

  • TL;DR So, start "arguing." Start picking bones and challenge each other's head-cannons; let the gears in your head grind and gnash, and start coming to some conclusions to draft up a solid OP's that'll tell Riot what we want and why. If you leave it to the comments it might be missed. We can carry this torch no problem. ;) Riot can have it tomorrow after their hangover is gone.

10 Comments

Keevalroy1/7/2015, 1:03:37 AM6 votes

With the Blood Moon Elise skin, there was a lot of Riot-to-community interaction. They wanted to get it right, so they opted to actually talk to us to see what we like about either version.

As for the Ahri splash...

  1. Either I'm blind, or we don't even know who's doing it.
  2. There were a LARGE volume of complaints about the new version, and they took the easy way out and changed very small details instead of redoing the splash.
  3. Riot has remained silent going all the way back to October when the first attempt was made. The only interaction was when it was quietly taken down and replaced back with the original art, to which the community actually responded positively.

We still don't like the new Ahri splash - talk to us. What are you trying to do with it, and how can we help and provide feedback that hasn't been said already?

Trylobyte1/7/2015, 3:24:12 PM3 votes

I don't mean to be a pessimist (actually I do) but these forums as a whole might as well be nicknamed the Conflicting Information Boards. The game has something like 35 million players and every one has a different opinion; get a sample of them, put them on a forum, and you will see people argue just about everything. Even 'widely-held consensus' principles with hundreds of upvotes on the forums don't necessarily hold true when surveyed against the game's players as a whole.

As for character lore...

The ones we know will be getting updated will be those who have strong ties to the IoW, such as Kayle Morgana Jax Nautilus NocturneFiddlesticks - For better or worse, most of these champions have major character elements tied to the IoW, from Kayle's status as the Ace (She was everything from referee to bodyguard to spokeswoman on top of being the Judicator of the IoW -and- a champion) to Nautilus's quest for vengeance (The IoW's people are responsible for screwing him over big-time) to Fiddles existing at all. They're the ones who are really going to need definition, and in something of a hurry.

As for DrMundo I've always found him interesting. He's a great character, he's really funny, and everyone likes him. Almost makes you forget he's a mass-murdering sociopath who killed his pets, his parents, his neighbors, and most people he came into contact with before he was even an adult. Mundo just likes to murder people, but his endearing mannerisms and memetic voiceover just make us forget that.

GreenLore1/7/2015, 3:04:07 PM2 votes

thread is made that is explicitly to be not about splash arts people start talking about the ahri splash art...

Overall I think many characters are in a good spot lore wise. The ones that need changing are the ones whose story doesn't make any sense anymore without the IoW anymore(like Kayle,Jax and Nocturne) and those who have basically no backstory(like Shaco or evelynn)

Then there are some characters who are more or less just a joke DrMundo being a prime example.Don't get me wrong,he should definetly remain hilarious,because he wouldn't be mundo if he wasn't,but that shouldn't be his whole character.

Some other characters could also need a bit work in terms of characterisation,I'd like it if Chogath remains rather intelligent,despite his monstrous size(making him a bit similar to smaug sounds like a good idea),I'd say that Kayle is also a bit inconsistent in her characterisation(she was once said to be one of the goodest champs in the game,but she seems more lawful than good),ahri is depicted in her gameplay completely different than in her lore and then there is the question about how evil veigar truly is(is he just a wannabe,that will poke the poodle or is he a real threat?)

Designwise I'd say the kinkou order needs a bit work done,I mean nowadays riot looks out to make the champs thematically different,but all 3 of them are just ninja,not to mention that Shen doesn't even look like a tank.

Gapybo1/7/2015, 5:05:52 PM2 votes

This is all because Riot lets minority dictate this process. I didn't really bother with this because I am not interested in the champ but I think the new one is great and I'm just glad they fixed some details like the bell etc. Most people like the new one.