@Riot: If the reason we aren't getting full bios is due to "tech issues", just give us text-only!

darkdill··24 votes·5,964 views

Seriously, if you're trying too hard to make all the bios look flashy, we'll settle for some text-only htmls. Anything's better than what you're giving us: a big fat NOTHING.

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RiotRiotJaredan14 votes

The problem concerns the text due to the system by which it's published and how it fits with the process for localization across regions. We're looking to do a test run on the system this week by publishing the Azir and Xerath stories. They're not examples of the new bio format, but it's just a way to get any kinks out of the new tools we're using.

lightdragoon881 votes

Loved the Xerath and Azir stories. Though it can be hard to find them again.

RiotRiotJaredan6 votes

It'll be a lot easier ... damn, I'll have to say it ... soon.

Sharjo7 votes

leans in for a hug

There there, we'll be rid of that dreadful word in due time.

Jeddy0178 votes

I guess you could say,"We'll be rid of that word........soon." [ insert evil laughter here]

Sharjo3 votes

You have no idea how hard I tried to avoid that. For some reason I totally flopped on finding a synonym for soon.

Forgive me my evil overlord, for I am a failure!

DrCyanide6 votes

A test run how soon? Today? This week? This month? This year?

I honestly feels like there needs to be a post on what in the world happened that delayed everything by 10+ months. Everything you guys said around Azir's release made it sound like you had fully scoped and implemented your solution for getting these larger lore articles out, and that you ran into a bug at the last minute before going live. Well, considering it's 10 months after the fact, I can't help but feel like the "technical issue" was either a problem with scoping or a problem trying to rush a solution out before it was ready.

RiotRiotJaredan8 votes

We're looking to test it this week.

Sharjo5 votes

Now I'm gonna be watching the champion pages like a hawk for the next few days. I'm totally ready for this.

Then again since Kalista spontaneously got five rivals I've been doing that anyway, so just business as usual for me!

Tsumikiri1 votes

My body is ready.

Stars Shaper2 votes

You mean the stories we already know?

RiotRiotJaredan6 votes

Yes. As I said, it's a test run to make sure the system works in advance of the first new bios before the end of this month.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Ok, it was just to be sure :)

From what you know, lets put that the new bios work good. Taric and all the new champions/reworks are going to be shipped with the new bios since the begin too?

Sharjo3 votes

I imagine the stuff that'll be getting shipped as of the next few weeks (providing everything goes smoothly on Riot's end) will be:

  • The Shurima stories that've been cock-blocked for 10 months
  • The Shadow Isles stories considering all their champions (aside from Maokai, the only good guy from there) were given short bios back when the Harrowing came around last year
  • Stories for all the champions released since september of last year (Kalista RekSai Bard Ekko TahmKench)
  • A story for Tristana as she received a full update earlier this year and has a short summary just waiting to be updated.

That's just my musings but I'd say it's a safe bet that we'll see these in particular pop up.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Well yeah but my question was kind of different. I meant to ask if things from this try on are going to wait for thei full bios or they are coming with them all at once.

Alljoy3 votes

Could you elaborate on the problem and the localization process? And what new tools are you using?

darkdill4 votes

So... it's a translation issue? The hell?

Sharjo2 votes

One of many issues, but translation actually creeps in more than you would think. I mean that's why VO gets shafted for champion VUs more so than other elements; got a shit ton of languages to record that in.

Trídent1 votes

YES STORIES WOO

Retillin1 votes

So... why not just release long bios on the forums instead of waiting 10+ months? A simple sticky in Story & Art and you are done. This would have zero problems do to system. A simple copy and paste and you are done. (But Riot doesn't bother to do this with their posts on Reddit so I don't know why they would do the 10 seconds of work to do this)

Sharjo3 votes

Because they did that, and it reached only a handful of people. It was a band aid solution and only worked for people who came to this board and could read english.

Xulsigae1 votes

What keeps simple translations from being posted in plain text?

Darrosh Jewfist4 votes

10 months probably isn't text issues. I imagine they're probably going through extensive fine tuning on lore for consistency and probably to ensure it's a huge blowout when they update the lore so people go 'ooooo so dis is wat they've been doing!'

That's stupid, but I imagine that's seems to me the only plausible reason why they're holding out so long. Narrative seems pretty dedicated to not just divorcing gameplay and lore - but shifting bios off client and removing almost any sort of indication of text/reading just off the game itself.

Personally I feel the issue isn't text or fine-tuning but rather structural and hierarchical:

  • Narrative is a relatively low-totem pole department with weak backing and experiences constant member flux
  • Narrative clearly wasn't prepared for the sheer amount of content they had to redo in their advancement of the retcon
  • Narrative hasn't shown (possibly even decided) what kind of story/theme/tone/atmosphere they want Valoran and Runeterra AS A WORLD to have - so far, each of the factions seem pretty self-contained and it's like they live in their own little worlds.
  • Narrative and Foundations probably haven't figured out the glue that keeps these trope-fest regions together
  • Narrative probably has a poor structure for communicating, feedback, and editing and probably works on a committee system which is inefficient and requires majority approval - and when you've got too many hands in a pot you can't cook a thing.
Finnical2 votes

Agreed with your last point, the problem is one of high level direction. I believe they love their product, but I doubt any one of them has real vision of how to proceed. Send them a real boss, harsh but fair, to get their ducks in a row.

Solideus1 votes

They did with the Azir and Xerath bio's, and I assume they simply didn't find it successful enough to merit doing it that way. It makes sense to deliver the whole package instead of pieces of it, after all.

BatteryDead1 votes

Yah, we've never needed any videos, comics, etc. Just straight up text to give us something.

Tesla Effect1 votes

Are there other longer lores ready for this implementation after the test with Azir and Xeraths is done and successful?

CharQueen1 votes

They should just put a link to the story stuff they've been doing.

NorthernDruid1 votes

I'm more interested in basic core setting details than expanded character bios really.

Y'know, stuff like how does the setting still exist, why wasn't it blown up in the next rune war?

Basic stuff.

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