Is there any chance you will reveal a particular Champion's sexual orientation? Overwatch did it.

darkdill·Feb 4, 2017·16 votes·4,100 views

As you can see in the above Twitter post, Blizzard has no problem with this sort of thing. But is Riot still going to be all "don't ask, don't tell" and maintaining 100% ambiguity?

With how the story is being updated, I don't think that's the best of ideas. Having at least one or two non-straight Champions wouldn't be the worst thing to happen, and could make said Champions more believable and relatable. I could totally see Vi identifying as either lesbian or bisexual, and that wouldn't hurt her character at all, IMO.

I am just asking out of curiosity. I am not asking for Riot to produce any sexually explicit material.

EDIT: Wow, can we please stop circle-jerking here?

124 Comments

SharjoFeb 4, 201722 votes

Well I mean they already have revealed past relationships for a number of champions, they're fine exploring that area:

Gangplank + Illaoi Camille + Hakim Azir + unnamed dead wife Varus + unnamed dead wife Lucian + Senna Ashe + Tryndamere

They've also shown sexual orientation beyond heterosexual people, as seen in Progress Day and Deep Breath.

The recurring theme is "does showing this make narrative sense at the time" and it did in all cases provided for the above. Whether they'll straight up confirm a champion's orientation is debatable, but they'd almost certainly only do it if they had already showcased that champion's sexuallity in a story before hand.

In my mind I don't really care whether Riot directly confirms a champion's sexuallity via "Word of God" so to speak since the idea of even giving a character someone who has their affections is indicative enough, but that's me talking from the perspective of a cis white brit lad, so y'know, I definetly don't speak for everyone there.

So basically, they've proven willing to explore such themes, but whether they'll outright confirm word of god style what a champion's sexuallity is is debatable.

SwarovskoFeb 5, 20172 votes

Ezreal + Lux + Taric ?

SharjoFeb 5, 20175 votes

Ezreal and Lux have been implied, and Taric's just a community made stereotype. Nothing much to say really.

HigeFeb 5, 20174 votes

no no no, you got it wrong, Ashe and Tryn are an arranged marriage, in reality Tryn has the hots for Olaf and ashe is on a long term relationship with her bow...

5000000000000000Feb 7, 20172 votes

The bow gives her a silent treatment, and is generally cold to her, though.

kagepaladinFeb 5, 20172 votes

eh the Ashe + Tryndamere is more of a political thing to help unite the people don't know how much love is involved like the lucian and senna or camille and hakim.

SharjoFeb 5, 20172 votes

I reckon it's possible there could be something more later down the road. At the very least they had to like each other enough to find marraige an acceptable political option.

MyrmironFeb 4, 201712 votes

I always hate it when people give so much of a f*ck about anyone's sexuality, and yes, this also goes for fictional characters. It literally adds nothing to the champion, and whenever someone forces this garbage it feels like it's just there so someone can tick a box on their diversity check list. "Tracer identifies as a lesbian", so what? Like, what now? Does this add to her story in any way, shape or form? Does this have any impact on her back ground? Such a meaningless phrase, thrown in there just to collect diversity points, it sickens me.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20179 votes

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I always hate it when people give so much of a f*ck about anyone's sexuality, and yes, this also goes for fictional characters. It literally adds nothing to the champion, and whenever someone forces this garbage it feels like it's just there so someone can tick a box on their diversity check list. "Tracer identifies as a lesbian", so what? Like, what now? Does this add to her story in any way, shape or form? Does this have any impact on her back ground? Such a meaningless phrase, thrown in there just to collect diversity points, it sickens me.

Not every detail should add something, please. Gangplank's oranges add nothing, Graves' cigar adds nothing, Camille's tea adds nothing. Actually, half of details in fiction adds nothing, but It makes it interesting, which is the important one.

SharjoFeb 4, 201710 votes

The myriad of little things make things more realistic and understandable.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20175 votes

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The myriad of little things make things more realistic and understandable.

That's what I wrote and then deleted, because It is my argue, yet I went with his argue, which is why I mostly said ''It adds nothing'' while I think It actually adds.

Complicated. :P

SharjoFeb 4, 20176 votes

Aye I getcha. Sometimes words are just treacherous bastards.

MyrmironFeb 4, 20174 votes

Wrong. GP's oranges fit thematically because he's a pirate (Hello scurvy!). Camille's tea adds something to her character because she's theme'd like an old English lady. Grave's cigar adds something because it's a symbol of Riot censoring themselves for their target audience, kids. Apart from that, these are all observable facts. None of this is just an empty statement thrown out there to appease anyone. The characters got designed with these characteristics in mind. Where as "Tracer identifies as a lesbian" is any empty statement that doesn't add anything to the character and is just there, just because.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 201711 votes

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Wrong. GP's oranges fit thematically because he's a pirate (Hello scurvy!). Camille's tea adds something to her character because she's theme'd like an old English lady. Grave's cigar adds something because it's a symbol of Riot censoring themselves for their target audience, kids. Apart from that, these are all observable facts. None of this is just an empty statement thrown out there to appease anyone. The characters got designed with these characteristics in mind. Where as "Tracer identifies as a lesbian" is any empty statement that doesn't add anything to the character and is just there, just because.

Someone's sexuality adds something because he/she is HUMAN.

Enough said.

You're just trying so hard to find a reason, mine reason is at least 10 times better than yours.

Ebonmaw DragonFeb 4, 20174 votes

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Someone's sexuality adds something because he/she is HUMAN.

So, only humans can have sexuality?!

That is racist, Void creatures, monsters, dragons and Yordles have feelings too.

SharjoFeb 4, 20174 votes

That is racist, Void creatures, monsters, dragons and Yordles have feelings too.

There should be a semicolon there, just for future reference.

...sorry. I use semicolons a lot so that bugged me a tad.

SharjoFeb 4, 201712 votes

The point of people coming around and being like "I hate diversity for the sake of diversity" is so perplexing to me.

We're humans. We're varied and strange.

Why the sod shouldn't the characters within a fictional medium be representative of that?

Is it so wrong for folks to ask for representation in games? Be it from the point of view of race and ethnicity, political views or sexuallity? The norm within most mediums in the west for characters is white and straight, which isn't really great because that's not the default for humanity itself.

And you can make the argument that it adds nothing to the character, but that's not true. Every facet of someone's personality is critical in discerning how they interact with the world and other characters. If sexuallity is something relevant to that person's existence, then it informs how they live their life. Tracer being a lesbian is critical to her as a character because she has a girlfriend that she interacts with regularly and is intimate with. If the statement "Tracer is a lesbian" was fact without any narrative context to back it up, then yes it would serve no purpose, but hers DOES.

And as I statred before, Riot has at the very least implied the sexuallity of champions before. Illaoi, Gangplank, Azir, Camille, Varus, Kassadin, Lucian, Ezreal and Lux come to mind. All implied to be straight but never outright stated. If Riot can do it with folks who're implied to be straight, then why not with folks who could be gay, bi, pan, a, trans or whatever?

Diversity is the default for humanity and by asking for less of it feels like you're actively asking for the things people make to be more boring for a lack of varied characters.

I seriously don't get this argument. Sure having it someone's sexuallity shoved in there with no narrative context is perplexing in and of itself, but when it's done properlly, has narrative context and works, then what's the issue?

The hell's wrong with diversity?

TheSlothWarlordFeb 4, 20175 votes

I don't think you understand, so I will do my best to explain. No one cares. Not a single logical, rational, thinking mind that plays this game cares about sexual orientation to fictional characters. Not a single one. Those who do have too much time on their hands, troll, or are insecure. Nothing ruins a game more than political correctness. That's what's wrong with this post.

SharjoFeb 4, 201711 votes

Well that first point is a lie because folks do care and are not just time wasters, trolls or insecure folks. A fuck ton of people care. On the Tracer example, people care because she represents a world view as the effective poster child of a super popular triple A game. That's huge for folks looking for that level of representation since it's so rare. If Riot put out information that Sona was bi then I'd care because she's my favourite champion and as such I have a vested interest in her and what's she's doing.

Political correctness =/= the very exploration of sexual themes beyond heterosexual relationships.

The only reason this is even an issue is because it's not the percieved default, when the fact there even IS a default is more of a problem than any level of supposed political correctness.

TheSlothWarlordFeb 4, 20174 votes

Now you're spewing out more BS. Political correctness =/= the very exploration of sexual themes beyond heterosexual relationships.??? That's stupid. We just don't want them to be identified at all. Let the fandoms worry about all that. All we want is to game and be left alone, not have this stuff shoved down our throats.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20179 votes

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Now you're spewing out more BS. Political correctness =/= the very exploration of sexual themes beyond heterosexual relationships.??? That's stupid. We just don't want them to be identified at all. Let the fandoms worry about all that. All we want is to game and be left alone, not have this stuff shoved down our throats.

You actually seem like you care a lot. Your unnecessary aggressiveness does not make you more understandable too. Stop being disrespectful. Path of this conversation does not follow live or die. You're just showing reaction more than enough.

''Nothing ruins a game more than politic issues''

How? Just how?

TheSlothWarlordFeb 4, 20173 votes

i care a lot because I am squashing an idea that will potentially hurt a game I enjoy before it takes flight, like a bird that spreads it's wings to fly for the first before a Goliath bird-eater spider comes out of nowhere and one-shots it.

People like me come to League and play to escape the world and all the BS it has to offer, from political crap to idiots wanting to spew stuff that we don't want to hear. We as gamers don't care.

We just want to game and be left alone. That's it. I don't care if you're straight or gay or bi or pan or trans or anything else. We really do not care about that. I just don't want anyone to infect my game that I enjoy with useless BS. Political correctness already ruined Call of Duty for me as well as many other multiplayer games. I will do everything I can to keep SJW crap from ruining League for me.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 201710 votes

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i care a lot because I am squashing an idea that will potentially hurt a game I enjoy before it takes flight, like a bird that spreads it's wings to fly for the first before a Goliath bird-eater spider comes out of nowhere and one-shots it.

People like me come to League and play to escape the world and all the BS it has to offer, from political crap to idiots wanting to spew stuff that we don't want to hear. We as gamers don't care.

We just want to game and be left alone. That's it. I don't care if you're straight or gay or bi or pan or trans or anything else. We really do not care about that. I just don't want anyone to infect my game that I enjoy with useless BS. Political correctness already ruined Call of Duty for me as well as many other multiplayer games. I will do everything I can to keep SJW crap from ruining League for me.

Look, you only talk about gameplay as I understand. You just want to play your game and leave with peace, so you sound like you already don't care about lore. Then why do you care sexuality of characters? Like why?

Game will have 0 effect. They will not change skills when they released a gay champion. They will not release a new item that is totally affected by homosexuality. They will not release a neutral creature coloured by LGBT flag. Really, stop overracting.

It is ruined only in your mind, when there is nothing ruined.

kagepaladinFeb 5, 20173 votes

I look of it as more of a people not wanting things to change, I mean all the lore even if it has been changed throughout the years the character has still remained relatively the same. If you look at mordekaiser's second lore with him snapping an old guys neck and stealing all his secrets from his soul to his new one's he is still made out to be a bad-ass, It's like the saying goes if its not broken don't fix it. What they did with tracer was really well done they released it in a very good way which I applaud them on but if they go and take an already well established champion lore wise and go up and say oh this character is bi, gay or lesbian it's going to run into the issue of the community over reacting. Also league puts most of their character background into the actual lore of the champions that doesn't normally tie into the other champions lore's like overwatch's does aside from in the garen lore it mentions katarina or in tristana's it mentions teemo's I believe, point of this part of the statement is if they go and make a new lore and all of a sudden announce an old character with already a well established lore and thematic that people actually like it will cause an utter shitstorm of epic proportions on here, I mean look at this post and its just proposing the idea of bi, gay and lesbian characters.

SharjoFeb 4, 20179 votes

My point is NO ONE IS SHOVING IT DOWN YOUR THROATS.

Lore and gameplay are divorced. No one's making you learn these details. You can play the game and have no issue because no one mentions these details in game.

So why shouldn't it be included in the medium that you're not going to interact with regardless? Because if it just being there is a problem for you that's indicative of problems you have with the concept itself, not with its expression or presentation.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20174 votes

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The point of people coming around and being like "I hate diversity for the sake of diversity" is so perplexing to me.

We're humans. We're varied and strange.

Why the sod shouldn't the characters within a fictional medium be representative of that?

Is it so wrong for folks to ask for representation in games? Be it from the point of view of race and ethnicity, political views or sexuallity? The norm within most mediums in the west for characters is white and straight, which isn't really great because that's not the default for humanity itself.

And you can make the argument that it adds nothing to the character, but that's not true. Every facet of someone's personality is critical in discerning how they interact with the world and other characters. If sexuallity is something relevant to that person's existence, then it informs how they live their life. Tracer being a lesbian is critical to her as a character because she has a girlfriend that she interacts with regularly and is intimate with. If the statement "Tracer is a lesbian" was fact without any narrative context to back it up, then yes it would serve no purpose, but hers DOES.

And as I statred before, Riot has at the very least implied the sexuallity of champions before. Illaoi, Gangplank, Azir, Camille, Varus, Kassadin, Lucian, Ezreal and Lux come to mind. All implied to be straight but never outright stated. If Riot can do it with folks who're implied to be straight, then why not with folks who could be gay, bi, pan, a, trans or whatever?

Diversity is the default for humanity and by asking for less of it feels like you're actively asking for the things people make to be more boring for a lack of varied characters.

I seriously don't get this argument. Sure having it someone's sexuallity shoved in there with no narrative context is perplexing in and of itself, but when it's done properlly, has narrative context and works, then what's the issue?

The hell's wrong with diversity?

Favourite arguments of people who don't want to have clarified gay characters in fiction, Top 5:

1- Being gay adds nothing into character, It is useless. 2- Don't touch on current characters. Just release a new one that is gay. 3- Stop bringing SJW bullshit on stories. 4- Stop going full politics. 5- Gay characters encourage kids to be gay.

First one is destroyed by you, next one please.

SharjoFeb 4, 201712 votes

Ok I can give it a whack:

Adding a character specifically to add a gay character is the very concept of ticking a diversity checkbox that folks seem to despise. If all a character is made for is to be the gay character then it's inherently shallow.

There's also the idea here that characters weren't already designed as gay, bi, trans, pan, A or whatever from the ground up but not revealed till later, which is some BS because it once again lends to the stupid idea that there's a default for human existence in regards to sexual orientation. A champion is more than their splash art; there are intricacies and nuances not visible that only come from exploring that character in a setting, so saying that characters can't be touched is stupid because how do you know they weren't already like that?

It also contradicts point 1: you say being gay adds nothing to a character, yet if it's revealed as a true detail of the character later down the road it's all of a sudden a problem?

It's only an issue if you make it an issue. And if you're making it an issue then you're the kind of guy who wasn't accepting of this stuff to begin with.

If a character's sexuallity is shoved in there with no narrative context or stakes, simply to state the fact that this is a thing with no weight to back it up, then that's stupid on its own because it's really just shitty writing. Nothing about that detail actually adds to the character at that point. However if this detail is brought up and explored within a narrative context in a natural and cohesive manner, than the only issue is with it existing at all, and at that point the question becomes "why do you have an issue with this being here at all if it's presented in basically the least obtrusive, most natural way possible?"

As I said before, the fact that there's a percieved sexual default is BS, and to this point, that default MAKES THIS POLITICS HAPPEN. If no one actually gave a shit and was allowed to have this go about with no issue, then there'd be no politics. That's why being straight ain't political; no one gives a shit. Writers are people, have their own political views, and are allowed to explore the ideas that they want to in the mediums they wish to explore. We can debate individual views for ages but simply not wanting to see someone's views put to writing's stupid.

TL;DR because there's a deault to sexuallity in society anything aside from that will always be political, so the point of "don't bring in politics" is null and void.

5)...the fuck kind of argument is this? People are their given sexuallity because that's how they fucking live. No one's convinced by anything if they don't already have a disposition to be that way. Also apparently kids can't be gay? Why not? Kids can be straight but not gay? What about being gay is a concept not for children? Sexual orientation =/= anything explicitly sexual. If it did we'd all be having a whole lot of kinky sex.

MyrmironFeb 4, 20174 votes

I don't care if a character

isn't white
isn't straight
isn't whatever But, here's the problem. No one in real life goes around and tells people: "Hi, I'm a lesbian, half Chinese half Afro-American, Republican, whatever...". These things come up when they come up. So why does it absolutely have to be one of a character's defining characteristics in fiction? Answer: It doesn't. It especially annoys me when they mention it in 1 sentence, just outright state that fact without any context just to shove it out there. I think I'm not doing a particularly good job at bringing my points across, so here's an example: Supposed lesbianism... Done right: Life is Strange. Done wrong: Tracer.

SharjoFeb 4, 201711 votes

Yeah that's the stupid way of doing it, but Tracer's wasn't done that way since, y'know, she was revealed as gay by kissing her girlfriend at christmas time, which is a pretty perfect setting to present such a concept. The context of the tweet is this:

https://media0dk-a.akamaihd.net/58/75/c400ee2f2c700febfc6d6a11b3d368c8.jpg

And the context of that image is this:

http://content.madefire.com/s-cb940f3d62a84f968c05338787ff2196/index.html

Which is a pretty natural way of showing such a relationship in my book. Mr. Chu was stating a fact because the question had been asked and the proper context existed such that there is no issue with him speaking about it.

And it's not her defining characteristic. It's a facet of her character like any other detail.

PermabannedGarenFeb 5, 20176 votes

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I don't care if a character

isn't white

isn't straight

isn't whatever But, here's the problem. No one in real life goes around and tells people: "Hi, I'm a lesbian, half Chinese half Afro-American, Republican, whatever...". These things come up when they come up. So why does it absolutely have to be one of a character's defining characteristics in fiction? Answer: It doesn't. It especially annoys me when they mention it in 1 sentence, just outright state that fact without any context just to shove it out there. I think I'm not doing a particularly good job at bringing my points across, so here's an example: Supposed lesbianism... Done right: Life is Strange. Done wrong: Tracer.

Right, like how Tracer didn't introduce herself with "Cheers luv, the cavalry's 'ere and also I like to eat pussy".

A little Christmas comic just showed her celebrating Christmas with Winston, an old friend, and her girlfriend.

Tracer never actually says "I'm gay", it's revealed organically through her having a girlfriend, when we get the first glimpse at her home life.

Your arguments are nonsensical and easily squashed friend.

PlacentasFeb 5, 20174 votes

LOL "Cheers luv, the cavalry's 'ere and also I like to eat pussy".

AptestFeb 7, 20171 votes

well.

my point of view on this is simple:

Taric is an imaginary character. Therefore he can be both gay and straight at the same time. If you force him into being gay, you lose out of half of the things that he can be.

people really enjoy Ez x Taric as a something to play around with in their imagination. Now imagine riot having a "Ez x Lux weddding". Now all those people have to fight with the "Ez x Lux" people over who's meme gets to meme.

Being ambiguous is generally going to be more diverse than being explicit. Because now we have Taric, the gay. And also Taric, the fabulous straight. i.e. 2 images of taric that live in peace. But if taric is openly gay, we have "less taric" to play around with.

IMHO diversity is benefited by riot not being explicit about character's sexuality (in the general case, still need to have lore out there). When you want Trynd to be gay "for the sake of diversity" (I can swallow the "trynd x olaf" concept. it's plausible enough), what you are creating is a figurehead and you pay with less diversity in the game.

so actually what you want is diversity in the minds of the "reader": that he reader will also choose to imagine gays. and you want to sacrifice the diversity of the story to in order to force the issue.

it's not really important here because there's more than enough "gay memes" on the community to go around and push the idea of "gay taric" or "gay trynd" (now that i think about it trynd x olaf is more plausible than taric x ezreal) as a concept into everyone's mind. Same with Lesbian memes i think there's enough of them on the forums where's that riven one when you need it?

so if the effect that you get from it isn't achieved, why kill some of the diversity of the lore?

SharjoFeb 7, 20173 votes

...ambiguity in diversity ain't diversity mate. Entertaining the possibility doesn't do anything but put a big fat maybe on it. Diversity in narrative options for a character is not the same as diversity of ethnicity, values or sexuality. People will head canon all they like but having true diversity and actually showing support for that concept means actually going out and including those concepts fully, not just saying maybe. Maybe is relative to apathy towards the idea. Confirming means to actively support it.

There's a lot more people can gain from actually having diversity instead of the idea of diversity.

The WhamboozlerFeb 4, 20177 votes

"Making mention of her sexuality adds nothing to the game or her story!"

Yet it "sickens you"? If it's so meaningless, why get worked up about it at all? What you're essentially saying is "Hey, any lesbians that happen to lay Overwatch. Would you like to see a character that shares your sexuality in the game? One you can relate to perhaps? Well tough shit because the mere mention of that being the case OUTSIDE the game by a dev offends me so much that it makes me physically ill." It takes nothing from the game at all, but it just might make ONE little girl out there who really likes Tracer and thinks she might like girls a little happier to see a cool character that shares her point of view. That little girl hears nothing but shit like you're saying all the time. That her feelings make others feel "sick".

It takes NOTHING from you to see a dev say that a character is gay or lesbian or what have you. Nothing. But because you feel uncomfortable... or because you have chip on your shoulder about "PC culture"... Or because it ruined your Tracer x Junkrat ship... or just because you're a freaking bigot, you're spouting off some really hateful shit here. They're Blizzard's characters. Blizzard's team can decide if they're straight, gay, bi, asexual, trans, poly, or whatnot. One of them is a cyborg ninja and the other is a gorilla from space... but the lesbian is going too far?

I can't even FATHOM the amount of self-entitled ego it takes to try and tell other people the things they should get invested in. You're massively full of shit, by the way. This isn't about "omg, why are you invested in a character's sexuality?". Some characters are DEFINED by their sexuality, lack of sexuality, or what have you. Just in league we have Ahri, who is basically a succubus. In other media we have characters like James Bond the perpetual ladies man. We have James Sutherland from Silent Hill 2, who's sexual frustrations were the reason for half the monsters in the game looking like they did.

No. What you're upset about most likely... is that a dev took a few minutes out of his day to post something that didn't pander directly to you. Now, I'm not certain you're a straight male here... but that seems pretty likely to me based on your response. Someone said something in the game wasn't pandering JUST to you, and you're disgusted.... but also claim it's pointless and no one should care. Bullshit. You care. That's why you posted this in the first place and your weak excuses are laughable. It would almost be more ballsy to just outright post "this is bullshit because I hate gays" but that would get you banned almost immediately and you know it, so you're hiding behind some faux "non-caring while also rageposting" crap. It's sad. You're sad. Grow up and get over yourself.

Ebonmaw DragonFeb 4, 20179 votes

Reksai is 100% confirmed to be GRAAAAAAOOOAAAAAHHHRRRRGHGGGGROAAAARRRRRhhhgGAAARWRRRsexual

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20171 votes

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Reksai is 100% confirmed to be GRAAAAAAOOOAAAAAHHHRRRRGHGGGGROAAAARRRRRhhhgGAAARWRRRsexual

she is so hot to belong any regular sexual orientation

SharjoFeb 4, 20174 votes

Reminds me of a line from Hellsing Ultimate Abridged:

"Except my boss is a woman, I was a chick in the forties, I hate EVERYONE EQUALLY, and there's NO ONE ALIVE WHO CAN COMPREHEND MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE."

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20171 votes

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Reminds me of a line from Hellsing Ultimate Abridged:

"Except my boss is a woman, I was a chick in the forties, I hate EVERYONE EQUALLY, and there's NO ONE ALIVE WHO CAN COMPREHEND MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE."

I ship Rammus and Rek'Sai, am I weirdo?

SharjoFeb 4, 20178 votes

On principle I say ship whoever you want, on opinion I say that's strange narratively because Rek'Sai's more inclined to just try and eat Rammus than date him.

Hell considering that beings from the Void have been implied to be organic weapons that are made rather than born, Rek'Sai could very well have no sex drive at all or any sexual interest in anything, even from an animalistic point of view. Despite being queen of the Xer'Sai she might not actually reproduce at all.

...Oh sorry we were talking about ships not Voidborn biology.

Sorry.

Anyway ship who you want.

Though not Riven X Zac.

That right there is dumb and stupid.

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20172 votes

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On principle I say ship whoever you want, on opinion I say that's strange narratively because Rek'Sai's more inclined to just try and eat Rammus than date him.

Hell considering that beings from the Void have been implied to be organic weapons that are made rather than born, Rek'Sai could very well have no sex drive at all or any sexual interest in anything, even from an animalistic point of view. Despite being queen of the Xer'Sai she might not actually reproduce at all.

...Oh sorry we were talking about ships not Voidborn biology.

Sorry.

Anyway ship who you want.

Though not Riven X Zac.

That right there is dumb and stupid.

It was a joke though. xD

I'm OTP Cho'Gath x Teemo.

SharjoFeb 4, 20175 votes

I CAN'T COMPREHEND JOKES

CHO'GATH X TEEMO DOES NOT COMPUTE

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20171 votes

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I CAN'T COMPREHEND JOKES

CHO'GATH X TEEMO DOES NOT COMPUTE

Teemo is bottom, by the way.

Brain goes away, forever

SharjoFeb 4, 20173 votes

Hey I've seen this with Sona, so what the sod do I care?

FasmodeyFeb 4, 20171 votes

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Hey I've seen this with Sona, so what the sod do I care?

w t h

SharjoFeb 4, 20172 votes

This gets in to a specific kind of fetish that I won't detail here, but suffice to say it's quite the thing to behold.

Big LincolnFeb 4, 20176 votes

keep this garbage out of league please, I don't need this trash polluting my favorite pastime

SharjoFeb 4, 201715 votes

What about this is trash? And what about the story of this game, which is already divorced from the gameplay, would pollute your gaming experience?

TheSlothWarlordFeb 4, 20174 votes

Simple: NO ONE PLAYING THE GAME SHOULD GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ORIENTATION! All it does is bring political correctness and BS into what's supposed to be a game. As you can see, you're bringing out arguments that shouldn't even exist just from the comments being made. Big Lincoln has a point, we don't want to think about sexual orientations or political ideologies when playing league. WE JUST WANT TO PLAY!!

Thank you.

SharjoFeb 4, 201711 votes

So you'd rather it didn't exist at all so it never becomes an issue than let it exist and support it, despite the potential difficulties?

That sounds pretty dumb.

And like I said, gameplay and lore are divorced anyway, so you can play the game for years and never even know this stuff exists. So why is it an issue if it exists in the lore?

It's only an issue if you make it an issue.

PermabannedGarenFeb 5, 20173 votes

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keep this garbage out of league please, I don't need this trash polluting my favorite pastime

Why does it bother you my friend?