Calm down about the Graham McNeill Thing

GenoXx··9 votes·1,680 views

Lol, Idk why you guys are getting so hyped for. You don't even know what's going to happen to the Story of league so don't think everything is going to be patched up. And no his entrace does not mean that the IoW and Summoners are coming back.

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Zarxis4 votes

I suspect that McNeill's hiring means nothing more than the waste of his talents. The guy's a good writer, but I doubt he'll be doing anything other than writing a paragraph or two per new/updated champion, maybe a mini-comic or short cinematic if the narrative team feels like doing something interesting (yet bland and uninformative).

Fasmodey3 votes

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I suspect that McNeill's hiring means nothing more than the waste of his talents. The guy's a good writer, but I doubt he'll be doing anything other than writing a paragraph or two per new/updated champion, maybe a mini-comic or short cinematic if the narrative team feels like doing something interesting (yet bland and uninformative).

If Riot hired him, do you really think they just think about releasing story for every new champion? They probably follow a bigger dream. Also they can release stories for every week. There is a lot of way to not waste his talents.

And, please, who is really wanting summoners or IoW back? They were bullshit. Summoners were overpowering the demigods of LoL and reasons to join league of champions were so bad.

Zarxis4 votes

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If Riot hired him, do you really think they just think about releasing story for every new champion? They probably follow a bigger dream. Also they can release stories for every week. There is a lot of way to not waste his talents.

And, please, who is really wanting summoners or IoW back? They were bullshit. Summoners were overpowering the demigods of LoL and reasons to join league of champions were so bad.

Riot killed the Journal of Justice a really long time ago. We aren't getting weekly stories because Riot's scared that they won't be good enough if they don't include character development and interaction... Which brings me to my next point.

The Institute of War and Summoners were cheesy because they weren't fleshed out enough to legitimize them. They were used as a gimmick to allow character interaction because if the champions of LoL met each other in legitimate combat, they'd kill each other. If champions like Xerath weren't being held back by the Institute, they would literally change the entire narrative through sheer power and influence (now they're only held back by the completely frozen-in-time state of Runeterra). The Summoners were the backbone of the lore— they were why we could see such varied champions in the same universe (and they were how the gameplay itself was given credit). The champions and world were kept static as the Journal of Justice fleshed them out (without contradicting Riot's original champion stories).

Without the Institute of War and Journal of Justice, the lore has stagnated because Riot has no vehicle with which to flesh out their universe other than champion cinematics and stories (meaning they have to make new champions or rework old ones just to give us any lore). The Summoners were a cheap trick for holding the lore together, but they were necessary for there to be any substantial universe behind the champions we play. All we have now is a few champion-specific taunts that we rarely witness and the odd Red post describing how a new/reworked champion feels about the other champions. These are scraps and pitiful tidbits compared to the Journal of Justice, but Riot refuses to admit that the new lore simply isn't going anywhere. They'd rather eat constant backlash on these forums (I'm unaware as to whether Reddit also frequently produces lore-based complaints or not) and strangle the universe behind their champions than go back to the lore that set the framework for the game we enjoy currently.

Fasmodey2 votes

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Riot killed the Journal of Justice a really long time ago. We aren't getting weekly stories because Riot's scared that they won't be good enough if they don't include character development and interaction... Which brings me to my next point.

The Institute of War and Summoners were cheesy because they weren't fleshed out enough to legitimize them. They were used as a gimmick to allow character interaction because if the champions of LoL met each other in legitimate combat, they'd kill each other. If champions like Xerath weren't being held back by the Institute, they would literally change the entire narrative through sheer power and influence (now they're only held back by the completely frozen-in-time state of Runeterra). The Summoners were the backbone of the lore— they were why we could see such varied champions in the same universe (and they were how the gameplay itself was given credit). The champions and world were kept static as the Journal of Justice fleshed them out (without contradicting Riot's original champion stories).

Without the Institute of War and Journal of Justice, the lore has stagnated because Riot has no vehicle with which to flesh out their universe other than champion cinematics and stories (meaning they have to make new champions or rework old ones just to give us any lore). The Summoners were a cheap trick for holding the lore together, but they were necessary for there to be any substantial universe behind the champions we play. All we have now is a few champion-specific taunts that we rarely witness and the odd Red post describing how a new/reworked champion feels about the other champions. These are scraps and pitiful tidbits compared to the Journal of Justice, but Riot refuses to admit that the new lore simply isn't going anywhere. They'd rather eat constant backlash on these forums (I'm unaware as to whether Reddit also frequently produces lore-based complaints or not) and strangle the universe behind their champions than go back to the lore that set the framework for the game we enjoy currently.

We need time to see new changes for lore, Also lore doesn't need to summoners for keeping champion's power lower than their actual power. Summoners may be fit lore but in my opinion they really kill the lore. They need to be removed, then a basic explanation that says '' we limited champion's power but we don't want to define any reason why they got less power ''. It can be like Dota heroes. There is extremely powerful heroes in Dota's lore but they don't destroy entire map.

Legacy of Xion5 votes

Sir we have given them nine fucking months to show us anything new.

Nine.

Months.

Don't tell me they NEED TIME. Because they've had it.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Sir we have given them nine fucking months to show us anything new.

Nine.

Months.

Don't tell me they NEED TIME. Because they've had it.

Do you really think they didn't bring anything new?

Legacy of Xion5 votes

I'm sorry, 3 lines for Ekko a cinematic, and a comic. Then you know, we learn more about him through Q&As. Then Bard, his utterly uninformative cinematic and nothing more. Then Rek'Sai who's only contribution was the diary that told us about shurima and how Noxians see Shurimans.

All that. Nine. Months.

Please justify a single paragraph of changes taking 9. Entire. Months.

Fasmodey1 votes

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I'm sorry, 3 lines for Ekko a cinematic, and a comic. Then you know, we learn more about him through Q&As. Then Bard, his utterly uninformative cinematic and nothing more. Then Rek'Sai who's only contribution was the diary that told us about shurima and how Noxians see Shurimans.

All that. Nine. Months.

Please justify a single paragraph of changes taking 9. Entire. Months.

We have cinematics since Vel'Koz. I'm not saying they did well but let's be honest they're not shitting as you said.

Legacy of Xion3 votes

Cinematics.

I'm not giving a fuck about lore-less videos of awesome. I'm talking about real lore. Seconds gave us barely anything about Ekko, New Dawn was just a battle. Bard showed he's a tallest cosmic force of balance that apparently functions like the League except he's boring.

Tell me how the fact I can't even name Ekko's parents or why he isn't an orphan and needed to send a kid out for food who then most likely had money and decided t pickpocket.

There's more ploy holes then Kingdom Hearts, and even then the plot holes make sense.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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I'm sorry, 3 lines for Ekko a cinematic, and a comic. Then you know, we learn more about him through Q&As. Then Bard, his utterly uninformative cinematic and nothing more. Then Rek'Sai who's only contribution was the diary that told us about shurima and how Noxians see Shurimans.

All that. Nine. Months.

Please justify a single paragraph of changes taking 9. Entire. Months.

Azir

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Yes, Shurima shurima. I fucking hate Shurima because it literally waa Azir, Sivir, and Xerath with Nasus as Narrator and Renekton as guest villain.

remotayy11 votes

Wait there's lore to Rek'sai besides, "she's an Ant lion queen who fucked shit up occasionally she's a non-sentient hydralisk.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Yes, because learning how Noxus views Shurimans and that there are many Xer'Sai plus the fact the desert is the Sai makes up for 99.99% of the rest of the lore fucked up beyond all recognition.

remotayy11 votes

So with the addition of an actual novelist at the company, I think Rito wants to start writing books now. With the way that the lore is focused now they are either going to churn out stupid events like the shurima one or are going to start selling books based on the champs.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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We need time to see new changes for lore, Also lore doesn't need to summoners for keeping champion's power lower than their actual power. Summoners may be fit lore but in my opinion they really kill the lore. They need to be removed, then a basic explanation that says '' we limited champion's power but we don't want to define any reason why they got less power ''. It can be like Dota heroes. There is extremely powerful heroes in Dota's lore but they don't destroy entire map.

WE limited champion's power? Who's we?

Fasmodey1 votes

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WE limited champion's power? Who's we?

Riot

Wickedfates4 votes

im excited just because its the most i have heard about something that might increase the story for... a long time...

Nybx4life3 votes

Had to look him up. He definitely has the chops to do something good, if he's given the reins to do it. The question is, what's his role? Is he just an external "consultant"? Then things may not change too much. Will he be leading the whole Narrative charge with the actual power to speak to the community and put stuff out? Then hell yeah.

GenoXx2 votes

He's the Senior Narrative Editor. So I suppose, He will lead a lot of stuff, but I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet

Nybx4life4 votes

Me neither. Wait until a lore event comes out, or prior champs get revisited.

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