With all due respect to Riot, after seeing PFE Ezreal preview

HolyWarsPunish··4 votes·1,072 views

I would like to say that it looks like a 1820 RP skin, i mean im kinda disappointed/... no malice intended but it is not Ultimate tier.

if its an ultimate skin shouldnt it include more stuff? why be lazy about it?

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Dragon Master7 votes

Just be happy you got something. There are champs who haven't gotten anything for years.

HolyWarsPunish1 votes

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Just be happy you got something. There are champs who haven't gotten anything for years.

look i agree it was a great move by riot and i appreciate it, but still it is costing 3250 RP!! it has to have more stuff to it you know?

Dragon Master2 votes

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look i agree it was a great move by riot and i appreciate it, but still it is costing 3250 RP!! it has to have more stuff to it you know?

And what about all the champs who have "Legendary" skins that are nothing more than a simple 750 skin like Twisted Fate or Annie? Those skins have literally no particle effect changes, recalls or even good splashes.

HolyWarsPunish2 votes

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And what about all the champs who have "Legendary" skins that are nothing more than a simple 750 skin like Twisted Fate or Annie? Those skins have literally no particle effect changes, recalls or even good splashes.

if i remember correctly those skins have been removed from the store to the legacy vault or had their price dropped, i have alot of the old legendary skins too and i agree they need a total rework. and they probably will after their rework as riot said (nunu, chogath, mundo, tryn etc)

but still all im saying and i hope im wrong (and that the sfx visuals are not final), is that it should have more things to it, maybe a different set of ultimate skill shot>? or some laser beaming i dont know..

were talking about 30$ Skin tier.

im just saying it can be more.

Fairyfleur1 votes

It could be more, but it was released a long time ago. Be lucky they're even updating it, they don't have the time to make it even better.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

Pulsefire Caitlyn will be 1820 RP (legendary!) and includes: New model and textures - Tactical and sleek! - She’s equipped with the latest weaponry! New particles - Digital technology that will have you hitting your target every time! New sound effects - Pew pew, pew pew pew! New animations - Complete with an evolving gun and hoverbike homeguard! New recall animation - Caitlyn timehops, always sporting the most stylish of hats for the time period. New VO script - The future's only hope is in the barrel of my gun.”

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HolyWarsPunish1 votes

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Pulsefire Caitlyn will be 1820 RP (legendary!) and includes: New model and textures - Tactical and sleek! - She’s equipped with the latest weaponry! New particles - Digital technology that will have you hitting your target every time! New sound effects - Pew pew, pew pew pew! New animations - Complete with an evolving gun and hoverbike homeguard! New recall animation - Caitlyn timehops, always sporting the most stylish of hats for the time period. New VO script - The future's only hope is in the barrel of my gun.”

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Were talking about ez not cait... or maybe i didnt understand lol

Joxcab2 votes

It was worth 3250 RP back then, which is when you paid for it. Get over it.

Hella Kaiser5 votes

Yorick coff coff i'm dying

Hipster Sora2 votes

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Just be happy you got something. There are champs who haven't gotten anything for years.

Do you say things like this on every forum lol

Joxcab4 votes

Because it was ultimate-tier back then. Get over it. They're not being lazy. You should be thankful they even did this for you at all.

Jeddy0171 votes

It's like comparing a car made in 1960 to one made in 2010. Or comparing a game made in 2000 to one made in 2017.

You can make all the outward changes you can, but that still won't change how old it is at it's core. It won't have all the modern stuff unless you remake it. There's only so much they can do to improve PFE without completely remaking it.

Sukishoo2 votes

Yeah, they'd need to rip it apart and start over from the bottom up in order to make it the current quality of an Ultimate skin and Riot had even said when they update him that it wouldn't have that kind of update. This is more of a polish to bring him up in some areas so that it feels a little better compared to newer skins.

I think they did a good job with that :)

Joxcab3 votes

"waaah they didn't remake my 2012 ultimate skin into 2017 ultimate quality for free, they only did it to legendary quality, wow riot is such lazy fucks"

"waaah they didn't remake my victorian era carriage into a racecar just because i paid the same price it'd be worth now back then, wow, car companies are assholes"

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

MrHaZeYo2 votes

I mean, it was amazing compared to all the old skins. But the other 3 skins have put it in the dirt.

Joxcab1 votes

It's almost like newer skins are usually better than the older ones.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

It's almost like time decays things that were once new.

Jeddy0172 votes

Well, what do you want them to do? Completely remake the skin from the ground up to fit the modern Ultimate skin standard?

HolyWarsPunish2 votes

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Well, what do you want them to do? Completely remake the skin from the ground up to fit the modern Ultimate skin standard?

No you expect people spending 30$ for a skin that just got particles updated and voice makeover? its still not Ultimate worth...

Jeddy0172 votes

That doesn't really answer my question though.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

Is not like they made a BIG change to the skin... Is the same model as always. I guess that they will change the model and the whole skin if a VU for Ezreal comes someday.

However, i kinda agree that Riot should make more Summoner icons for the Ultimate Skill (In comparison Udyr has 4)... maybe add all the skills of PFE as summoner icons, not just his ult.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Is not like they made a BIG change to the skin... Is the same model as always. I guess that they will change the model and the whole skin if a VU for Ezreal comes someday.

However, i kinda agree that Riot should make more Summoner icons for the Ultimate Skill (In comparison Udyr has 4)... maybe add all the skills of PFE as summoner icons, not just his ult.

I would add all 4 Ezreal forms as icons, not just one of them.

DrCyanide1 votes

I'm just grateful it's getting some love. It has felt really bad having an "ultimate" skin that you enjoy less than 750 RP skin.

You're right, the changes might not be enough to convince someone who doesn't own the skin to fork out $25 for it. But for those who have it, it's a very welcome change.

Sukishoo1 votes

It was made in 2012, and they said last year that even when they update it that it wouldn't have the same quality as recent Ultimates like Sona or Lux. I think they did a nice job bringing the quality up to at least a legendary tier, cause if they really were going to bring it to the Ultimate tier it'd need a full make over. They'd have to spend even more time into it. We got 6 months or so of work on it since they made the Ask Riot about it so I think it came out great.

HolyWarsPunish1 votes

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It was made in 2012, and they said last year that even when they update it that it wouldn't have the same quaility as recent Ultimates like Sona or Lux. I think they did a nice job bringing the quailty up to at least a legendary tier, cause if they really were going to bring it to the Ultimate tier it'd need a full make over. They've have to spend even more time into it. We got 6 months or so of work on it since they made the Ask Riot about it so I think it came out great.

They dont need to remodel everything but they could add some more stuff, i dont really expected to be as good as say, sona or lux ultimates, but come on, homeguard animation? few laser beams addition? 2-3 ult shooting styles? they just basically updated the model and particles and made a voice over thats it...

Sukishoo2 votes

They added a new Recall, re-used the old recall for a teleport animation, updated voice over which requires the Voice Actor to be available and come back in (in this case BOTH voice actors), updated visual effects, updated basic attack animations, updated textures for all 4 forms.

That's a lot of work to put into an already existing skin. Plus the new icon that you get for getting the skin (or already owning it)

The skin used to be of Ultimate Tier quality back when it came out as it was the first of it's kind, so of course as time went by it didn't hold up as far since Ezreal is a much much older champion. They did what they could without having to devote a full team into it for like 2 years to really get it up to quality. It would need a new model, akin to what Ryze got in his update inorder for them to really give it the push to a current Ultimate status standard.

GreenLore1 votes

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homeguard animation?

He did get a homeguard animation....

Wrathof3001 votes

They aren't being lazy, they are putting effort into something they didn't want to do. It is just a texture update, done probably because of the countless posts made about updating PFE when the PFC was teased. PFE will be 'updated' when ez gets a VGU in the distant future.

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