Imo
Not to say there isn't other great things about this game. There obviously is. But my favorite is VGUs.
I get 1000x more excited about VGU news than anything else. And I wish we could get a third team.
Sorry, this is just me ranting. Love me some VGUs
SeductiveGrandpa10 votes+1 , totally agreed on this.
I was worried on how they'd capture Warwick and I was pleasantly swept off my feet with rework WW, not only a great rework but astounding VGU.
Poppy became so damn awesome, Sion was a blast, GP finally became a daunting pirate man, Alistar stopped looking like some weird blue alien cow... and is now a weird purple cow.
Now we wait to see how they re-make Urgot.
Melledoneus8 votesShotgun knees.
Baron of Bread1 votesI am still salty about the Sion VGU (I don't think I will ever be free of it). God I am getting upset just typing this, I think I am getting worse.
I like most of the other VGUs have been good though, Warwick especially.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Baron of Bread,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5Wh5JAtz,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-04-21T17:39:34.365+0000)
I am still salty about the Sion VGU (I don't think I will ever be free of it). God I am getting upset just typing this, I think I am getting worse.
I like most of the other VGUs have been good though, Warwick especially.
I will never ever ever ever understand you people who are actually upset that Sion isn't a turd anymore...
Baron of Bread2 votesDo you have a favorite champion? You probably do. How would you feel if Riot deleted them from the game? That feeling, along with not having that play style anymore, is why some of us are still upset.
That and the part where they said AD Sion's play style of "really hard to kill and nearly impossible to fight but easily kitted" was unable to be sustained in game, and then doing the Juggernaut update later down the road where they basically said that style was actually sustainable.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Baron of Bread,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5Wh5JAtz,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-21T22:07:31.335+0000)
Do you have a favorite champion? You probably do. How would you feel if Riot deleted them from the game? That feeling, along with not having that play style anymore, is why some of us are still upset.
That and the part where they said AD Sion's play style of "really hard to kill and nearly impossible to fight but easily kitted" was unable to be sustained in game, and then doing the Juggernaut update later down the road where they basically said that style was actually sustainable.
Well, I did main Taric, but instead of railing against Riot for updating his kit and making it modern and fun, I embraced it. I saw the massive flaws and huge problems in old Taric's kit, and I relished the changes they brought to him.
Baron of Bread1 votesI can understand that because you got a fairly similar champion out of that VGU. Sion wasn't.
I am not railing against Riot, I am reminding people that the Sion rework was flawed in important ways and that Riot has so far been good about avoiding having those flaws again.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Baron of Bread,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5Wh5JAtz,comment-id=000300010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-22T07:51:45.712+0000)
I can understand that because you got a fairly similar champion out of that VGU. Sion wasn't.
I am not railing against Riot, I am reminding people that the Sion rework was flawed in important ways and that Riot has so far been good about avoiding having those flaws again.
Old Sion was severely flawed, and they salvaged as much of his kit as they could, adding the HP stacking from old E and the exploding shield. He had a dull kit with very little things to do other than press buttons and attack harder/faster. New Sion is just simply a better champion, and a much more realized fantasy in terms of his kit vs his lore. He's not flawed, he just took the good parts of old Sion and turned them into something much greater.
Baron of Bread1 votesI agree that new Sion is a better champion than old Sion. I do not agree that they couldn't have made something that at least keeps the feel of the old champion or any part of the old play style.
Keping the HP stacking was good. Keeping the exploding shield was fine, but they did not keep it in such a way as to make anybody who played old Sion happy. The only people who cared about it were the AP Sion players, and that was because it was a nuke. Their play style was completely destroyed, in that it is no longer able to be used as the key to success.
As for lore to kit comparisons, they did alright. Sure he is a big presence on the field, but he isn't an unstoppable murder machine of death. He is a mildly difficult to stop chunk of beef. If he was an actual Juggernaut of some sort he would realize that fantasy much more. If you let me use Sion's passive as the actual champion I would feel closer to the lore, but isn't that just a worse form of the old ult? Interesting.
At the end of the day, you aren't going to see it my way and I won't believe that the VGU was that good. I have been through this discussion many times before, I know that it never goes anywhere. I am done here unless you come up with something new.
Malicious Metal8 votesI concur.
Melledoneus4 votes
Botifier1 votesShen and Morde didn't get Visual Gameplay Updates they got Visually Garbage Gameplay Updates
Melledoneus3 votesShen got a visual update, Morde got a texture update, and they both got gameplay updates.
Not that that has anything to do with this discussion, but I appreciate the sympathy.
Warlord Dienekes4 votesEh, it depends. Some of them I've really, really liked. Others I have not, for various reasons. I will say, most of the time, mechanically the reworks are solid.
LegenDariusGaren4 votesThe best thing about this game is 
. The best part is activating it mid spin on melee champs to deal tons of damage. Sometimes I buy it, undo, and buy it again to feel that thrill some more.
Garentheon1 votesI'm a Garen main so I know what you mean about the spins
Moonboy653 votesthe best part about VGUs are the splashes that come with them
Meta Noir3 votesI get 1000x more excited about VGU news than anything else. And I wish we could get a third team.
This. So much this. There are almost 55 (!) Champions, that need around 50/50 of VGU/VUs.
Not to mention, that every single Relaunch was amazing so far.
Reav3. Meddler. Ghostcrawler. Ryze. Tryndamere. For the love of god, please!
Oleandervine3 votesI agree. I want to see more VGUs happen, and less new champs. It will give them the chance to modernize the game at a quicker pace.
Garentheon1 votesCouldn't have said it better myself
Jaspers2 votesNot sure if anyone else feels this way but would like them to have a team working on visuals only. Malphite for one, sure he's an R machine but his kit is fine but his base model looks dated. Some of his skins are great but most are not. But don't think he is on the update list for a while.
RuPaul1 votesMeddler already said it's not a good idea to have a "VU team only". Because no matter what, there's still something that could be made better in a champion's kit and/or lore.
Dragon Master1 votesI just want Swain to get reworked so he can get a skin.
