Can we get some better game physics on Jannas model?

Call Me Nana·Sep 28, 2016·69 votes·5,561 views

Her hair doesn't make any sense what-so-ever. Not in her splashes, or even in the in game model.

The model hair is based that there is a strong wind coming from underneath her, in order for her hair to blow straight up like it does. But her clothing pieces suggest that there is just a mild breeze coming from the front of her.

The only model where the physics seem correct is her Forcast Janna skin, because she has no hair to flutter about.

That being said, would it be possible to implement the same game physics as Taric in terms of her hair?

I think it would make a lot more sense and be more visually appealing as well.

http://i.imgur.com/FHh3dv6.jpg <-- Janna in game

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0aldzUIJaKM/VwQkar1RdpI/AAAAAAAANEs/W3FlMN4JD7wyZp10lH59zqWxozEU4NZ6A/s640/taric1turn.jpg <-- Taric in game

43 Comments

ForgottenLuckSep 28, 201621 votes

Hello Zilean

God King AatroxSep 28, 20168 votes

i want to upvote this more than once because looking at her ingame makes me wanna scream WHERES HER VU

SukishooSep 28, 20164 votes

But she had one... in 2011... :(

God King AatroxSep 28, 20165 votes

wasn't good 'nuff

SukishooSep 28, 20167 votes

I dunno... this original Janna looks far worse http://orig04.deviantart.net/5f8c/f/2014/149/b/0/janna_old_by_aaa_nymphea-d7kaju0.jpg XD

DraaaaaavéééééénSep 28, 201616 votes

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I dunno... this original Janna looks far worse http://orig04.deviantart.net/5f8c/f/2014/149/b/0/janna_old_by_aaa_nymphea-d7kaju0.jpg XD

BURN THAT THING ON HER HEAD PLEZ

SukishooSep 28, 20163 votes

Color it red and she'd have a fire! :D

MelledoneusSep 28, 201611 votes

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/010/408/9ae

AuraCreedSep 28, 20166 votes

Are we sure she isn't going Super Saiyan?

SukishooSep 28, 20161 votes

Hmm she could be!!

MistroTTCSep 28, 20161 votes

And her voice sounded like she was trying to steal your soul.

SukishooSep 29, 20162 votes

She was just full of AIIIIIIIIIIIIR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrFJY9YOpYk xD and she liked to smoke alot.

GreenLoreSep 28, 20165 votes

The thing is that she looks already outdated again. Gangplank got a second VU already and Tryndamere is actually on the list for VGUs,despite the fact that these 2 got a VU already once.

SukishooSep 28, 20161 votes

I think she looks fine myself, there's champions that look far far worse. She could just use a tech update for the hair and she'd be alright.

GreenLoreSep 28, 20163 votes

There are lots of champs who look worse than her,but there are also lots of them that look a lot better.

In the end I think a simple tech-change might not even work depending on how her model was created and given that riot likely knows that janna could use another VGU eventually they might not bother to do it anyway.

SukishooSep 28, 20161 votes

another VGU

Another VGU? Uh... last time was just a VU being a Visual Update. I don't think her gameplay needs massive changes yet to warrant a VGU.

GreenLoreSep 28, 20161 votes

Well it is likely to be going a VGU since they simply don't do regular VUs anymore,which is why I said VGU,even though last time she only got a VU.

SukishooSep 28, 20161 votes

Well that's what I meant since they don't do those but she didn't have one last time :P but I still don't see her getting one for awhile since there's many others that are definitely a higher priority.

GreenLoreSep 28, 20161 votes

Yeah,when they once told us who is currently on the list she wasn't on it.(of course it is possible that she was added by now,though I agree that it is unlikely)

TrolosaurusSep 28, 20167 votes

Don't forget when she dances her staff vibrates like an alarm clock.

lordofthegoombasSep 28, 20167 votes

It's dancing too :P

TeCoolMageSep 28, 20166 votes

I always assumed it was levitating with the rest of her while her clothing was affected by the wind

Dr PoroSep 28, 20166 votes

She's wearing heavy weight armor to train her body. Those strings actually have an enormous mass. That's why she can afford to wear so little of it.

######just my theory

Cyber HeroXLSep 28, 20163 votes

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Sexy Jack RabbitSep 29, 20161 votes

I don't think it offends anyone, except for the people who are triggered by bad humor. I dunno about you, but I don't think it's funny.

Clint OrrisSep 28, 20162 votes

Why don't you say the same thing about....sona lel

Witch of BabylonSep 28, 20161 votes

It's not sticking up?

lordofthegoombasSep 28, 20162 votes

While I agree that Janna definitely needs some help in the hair department, if I understand you correctly, I don't really feel that I want her hair worn more down like Taric's. At this point her crazy strait up hair, has become very iconic to me and it wouldn't feel like Janna if she didn't have it, also from a gameplay standpoint it could change how she is read in game, for better or for worse. In my mind Star Guardian Janna is the ideal, her hair isn't a globular mess, and while it still keeps the iconic Janna hair it is a ton nicer to look at, if we could bring all her skins to that level, I would be most happy. :3

OleandervineSep 28, 20162 votes

I wanted Janna to get a full VU because she's looking very rough. I think her sashes could do with the Aurelion Sol/Ahri tail treatment and be free floating, and that would at least be a minor band-aid until further work can be done. Her animations are clunky and she could do with an audio overhaul too.

Call Me NanaSep 28, 20162 votes

Justice for Janna

ElikainSep 28, 20161 votes

I don't think Riot has the time to do a VU on her at the moment. Her model is quite old and she deserves one but VUs aren't on Riot's top priority list at the moment. Full VGUs are and once they're done with them, then they move on to less intensive projects.

DarkRitualSep 28, 20161 votes

Problem is, by time they get tuat far, enough other champs will have been nerfed into oblivion and need reworks, further extending the time untill non-gameplay update are able to be done. I think we just need one year, with only 2-4 new/VGU's, and the rest of the year updating visuals. Janna, Morgana, Kayle, Mundo, and many more could get a lot of benefit from art updates without kits being touched.

ElikainSep 29, 20161 votes

Champion nerfs don't lead to core gameplay problems that lead to someone being put on a VGU list. Buffs or nerfs, as a major part of balance adjustments, will always exist no matter if the champion is outdated or fresh off the VGU shelf. Riot's point with the VGUs is to make the outdated champion kit useful again while adding more balance levers that would allow the champion to function properly and allow for nuanced balance changes that won't make or break the said champion. Binary champions (like Aatrox currently) are in this state where if you throw them a small buff or a nerf in any direction, they become super good in what they do or never see any play.

Riot did try to do VUs first and it turned out that full VGUs take much more time but are of a much higher quality and value instead of just updating the art and cosmetics of League's earliest champions and not changing a thing.

Furthermore (although i've pitched forward the same idea), 1 full year of no new champion releases and just full dedication to VGUs and VUs sounds enticing but that would mean a lot of content in League would get stale very quickly. Simply because we've gotten used to frequent changes over the years and we'd depend on VGUs to keep things interesting and change them up (bring something new to the table) while less intensive work like VUs would strictly be for eye candy purposes.

2-4 VGUs would mean pseudo-new champions being introduced while the rest being all VUs. That would be pretty much equivalent to Riot being more concerned about how champions look and not how they play. Both aesthetics and functionality is important however, if you have to choose one to focus on, it has to be functionality. Riot strictly chose to focus on VGUs first as they both change the functionality and aesthetics of a champion at the same time. Which is exactly why these are the top priority projects.

Tesla EffectSep 28, 20161 votes

She will probably get a VU in about a year at least.

Gosh DarnSep 28, 20161 votes

Her hair looks like fucking sea foam.

VerxintSep 28, 20161 votes

Honestly the tech on Taric's hair should be applied to a bunch of champions with wierd hair modeling

Irelia Janna Syndra Katarina off the top of my head

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 29, 20161 votes

I've never seen an Issue with Katarina's hair? It moves when she dances and when she taunts as well.

VerxintSep 29, 20161 votes

It's long enough that you could apply the tech. That's enough reason.

I mostly meant Irelia for the weird hair, it's like... plastic and doesn't move properly.

I don't know if you're familiar with kat's old hair though, that was baaaad

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 29, 20161 votes

The only Irelia skin I play at this point is OoTl, simply because her hair doesn't look like tentacles spawning from her head. The unfortunate side of using Maya for animating is that Hair is extremely hard to model when you are forced to use fewer polygons, as it can look like clay flopping around. The Webseries RWBY demonstrates that quite well.

HigeSep 28, 20161 votes

In reality all it means is that her hair is less dense than the air, while her clothes are... well, regular clothing.

Considering she floats I'd say her whole body is less dense than that of a human being and in our bodies the less dense part is our hair, so it kinda makes sense.