A Holiday Question?

Bultz··1 votes·1,110 views

So not to be mean or sound unhappy and I don't even know if this is the right forum for this, but how come League only sees Christian holiday skins? Like I'm not against people celebrating their religions and stuff, but I don't see any other religion being represented and for those of us who aren't part of the religion I don't see it as really fair or cool. I'm not saying lets go crazy and drop every religious skin in here, but I mean I don't think any should be in here if only one is.

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TheySeeMeWardin4 votes

From what I can tell you don't want to hear what anyone has to say about this and you're focused on your own personal views. As a christian I get the privilege of having my religious holidays globally known around the world (ie. Easter and Christmas) but I would like to share something with you. I hate these holidays and you know why? They do not represent my beliefs. Santa and elves have nothing to do with Jesus and an Easter bunny DEFINITELY doesn't have anything to do with a resurrection. Now I get why you're mad, you want equal religious representation in League, but how can their be when they don't address religion at all. I hate to disappoint you but just because these holidays have religious roots doesn't mean they're seen that way today. MANY people celebrate these days but are not religious and I think you forget about that in your post. If you want all religions to be included you exclude those who don't believe in anything at all, which is a large majority. Riot goes about this appropriately by not addressing it at all. This is a game, not a platform to impose mine or anyone's personal ideals.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Thank you, from one Christian to another.

UomoAfide1 votes

Exactly this; Basically, the kind of Christmas that is celebrated throughout the world is the Commercial Christmas and it should not be confused with the Christian Christmas which is a totally different thing. Plus, i'm not really sure people might like Riot profiting out of several religious holidays. Hell, Indu were pretty angry against representation of Indian Gods by Hi-Rez moba Smite and the Devi skin for Symmetra in OW.

Jon11743 votes

Its not Christmas, Its Snowdown and in my household we celebrate Snowdown,

Bultz1 votes

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Its not Christmas, Its Snowdown and in my household we celebrate Snowdown,

So a santa skin has nothing to do with Christmas...right.....

Jon11742 votes

Nope its Snowdown stop appropriating my Holiday

Bultz1 votes

Santa is a christian Idol not snowdown.

Jon11743 votes

Nope its a Snowdown Idol,Just Like Poros and Baron In A Santa Hat

Bultz1 votes

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Nope its a Snowdown Idol,Just Like Poros and Baron In A Santa Hat

christian.

Jon11742 votes

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christian.

Snowdown

Bultz1 votes

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Snowdown

Christian.

Jon11742 votes

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Christian.

Snowdown

Bultz1 votes

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Snowdown

Yup christian

Jon11741 votes

Yup Snowdown

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Santa has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. Stop lying.

Bultz1 votes

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Santa has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. Stop lying.

SO he is not based on Saint Nickolas and told to little christian children as giving them free stuff? mmmkay.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

You.... Person.

Santa is a mix of many different holiday traditions. Christianity is only a part of it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbUVKXdu4lQ

This should clear things up. For the record Christianity has no idols because they are an affront to God.

Bultz1 votes

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You.... Person.

Santa is a mix of many different holiday traditions. Christianity is only a part of it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbUVKXdu4lQ

This should clear things up. For the record Christianity has no idols because they are an affront to God.

So they don't worship a white guy and call him god?

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

The stupidity of that statement shocked me.

Suffice it to say you know nothing about my religion, and I will not waste my time explaining it to you.

You went back on the first sentence of your OP, and I am not going to waste my time with you anymore.

Bultz1 votes

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The stupidity of that statement shocked me.

Suffice it to say you know nothing about my religion, and I will not waste my time explaining it to you.

You went back on the first sentence of your OP, and I am not going to waste my time with you anymore.

THe stupidity? Please do explain it. because you cant.

TheySeeMeWardin1 votes

Let me help, because I want this to be constructive and not belittling. Above you compared Santa to God and that does in fact "sound mean". You are entitled to believe whatever you want, but if you mock those who think different from you then you are no better than the Christians that you've encountered (I'm assuming you've had bad experiences with Christians, if not then why all the hate?). So you can think St. Nick is somehow tied to Christianity, hell you can think he's God, Satan, you, me, or even the queen of England for all I care. Just don't spew out hate for me thinking differently.

Happy Fucking Holidays.

Ravenhale2 votes

Eh, Riot seems to have a fascination with Santa (Santa Gragas, Bad Santa Veiger, Santa Braum). Lately they have just been releasing things like Winter Wonder or Snow Day skins. Santa Braum is quite the surprise considering it has been over four years since they did Veigar.

Maybe if you whine enough it will be another four years before they do it again. ^_^

Jon11741 votes

Well i mean i think it comes down to you don't have to worry about offending anyone when using Santa, Anything else and you may get into some slippery shit, Religion a topic that can get you in serious trouble

Bultz2 votes

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Well i mean i think it comes down to you don't have to worry about offending anyone when using Santa, Anything else and you may get into some slippery shit, Religion a topic that can get you in serious trouble

Santa offends me. He keeps shouting obscenities.

NJALobo1 votes

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Bultz1 votes

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I imagine Christmas is more for sale than actual religion. Go to Walmart, you will see Christmas decoration everywhere, certainly way more than say Hanukkah or something. Also, many see Santa instead of Christ so.. yeah

yeah that isn't how it works. Just because it gets sales doesn't mean it is somehow okay to incorporate religious icons into a game and ignore a few other billion people.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

What are you going on about?

I'm Christian and all I see in League are secular "Xmas" stuff like Santa and the reindeers and all that.

The only "religuous" figures in the gamr that I see consist of two angels and literal Satan. And then he got a skin that revealed his true form.

Bultz1 votes

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What are you going on about?

I'm Christian and all I see in League are secular "Xmas" stuff like Santa and the reindeers and all that.

The only "religuous" figures in the gamr that I see consist of two angels and literal Satan. And then he got a skin that revealed his true form.

Still a part of the religion.

UomoAfide2 votes

Santa Claus =/= Saint Nicholas dude

Bultz1 votes

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Santa Claus = Saint Nicholas dude

you are right Santa is saint nick

UomoAfide1 votes

Actually i meant the opposite. Santa Claus was inspired by the figure of Saint Nicholas but that's all, nothing else beside "He brings presents to children" is common.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Santa Claus =/= Saint Nicholas dude

Santa Gragas =/= Santa Claus

UomoAfide1 votes

mind blown

Jon11742 votes

Would those of Jewish Faith be okay with Hecarim beating someones ass with a Hanukkah Candle on a stick?

Bultz1 votes

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Would those of Jewish Faith be okay with Hecarim beating someones ass with a Hanukkah Candle on a stick?

Yeah I'm pretty sure they would.

Placentas1 votes

Omfg, that would be hilarious seeing Hec with a Menorah. Or replacing Darius' axe with a menorah! LOL

LoomberFoot1 votes

They have chiniese new year skins too (lunar revel)

Bultz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bob Chelson,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=3uEbA76Q,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-23T17:52:11.577+0000)

They have chiniese new year skins too (lunar revel)

That is because a Chinese company owns riot.

iHeim 11 votes

zilean seems to be muslim, heimer seems to be jewish

Bultz1 votes

You do understand that stereotyping is a ban-able offense on the forums right?

iHeim 11 votes

oh yeah, 2016 the year of the sensitive babies offended by literally everything

UomoAfide2 votes

Actually i find the idea of Heimer throwing Menorahs instead of wrenches particularly funny.

RogueWill1 votes

You my friends are suffering from seeing racism where is none. I'm guessing you are talking about the snowdown skin line, and I'm guessing you are talking more specifically about the ones that have to do with Santa skin which you consider "Christian" despite have nothing to do with it, Santa Claus or whatever name is known locally is recognized globally (even on countries that are not christian) and the snowdown thematic is carried around the world (winter snow, red hats, etc) even if in some countries December is actually summer time. Even japan houses now a days put 'X-mas tree' despite have nothing to do with it. It sells dude, if Hanukkah or whatever other holiday become know globally you can bet they will get skins out of it. If not take for example the Octoberfest, the St. Patrick, Harrowing and the Chinese new year skin lines. All of them are "holidays" of very small regins of the globe but are known globally and thus they have skin lines.

Want more examples? See the sports line section, we have for the Soccer World Cup adn the Olympics (the 2 most seen events) and we have none for the Basketball Finals or the Tennis open since they are not that famous or globally recognized.

Bultz1 votes

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You my friends are suffering from seeing racism where is none. I'm guessing you are talking about the snowdown skin line, and I'm guessing you are talking more specifically about the ones that have to do with Santa skin which you consider "Christian" despite have nothing to do with it, Santa Claus or whatever name is known locally is recognized globally (even on countries that are not christian) and the snowdown thematic is carried around the world (winter snow, red hats, etc) even if in some countries December is actually summer time. Even japan houses now a days put 'X-mas tree' despite have nothing to do with it. It sells dude, if Hanukkah or whatever other holiday become know globally you can bet they will get skins out of it. If not take for example the Octoberfest, the St. Patrick, Harrowing and the Chinese new year skin lines. All of them are "holidays" of very small regins of the globe but are known globally and thus they have skin lines.

Want more examples? See the sports line section, we have for the Soccer World Cup adn the Olympics (the 2 most seen events) and we have none for the Basketball Finals or the Tennis open since they are not that famous or globally recognized.

SO saint valentine, a christian saint, Saint patrick, another christian saint, and saint nicholas yet another one, are not at all related to the holiday? And tell me how halloween, which christians celebrate as all hallows eve, or the evening before all saint's day isn't christian. Yes it has a pre christian heritage, but was taken over by christians. OOO please tell me more. Tell me how buddhists believe in saints! Or the Muslims! or the Shinto people! Or the Jews! or any other religion other than Christianity. Please do tell.

Btw Oktoberfest isn't religious it's a beer drinking party. Sports aren't religion either. Associating two different thing's doesn't work.

RogueWill1 votes

Man you are dense. The reason I mentioned Octoberfest and the sport events was to explain you that it has nothing to do with the holiday or festival being christian or not but about it being famous enough to be recognized globally. You know the Brazil Carnival? probably you do, that's the reason why you have the carnival line and part of the masquerade but please tell me how is that also christian related.

And while you are at it please tell me again how leprechaun and four-leaves cloves are christian, and how hearts and chocolates relates as well? The reason why you see all the holiday as "christian" is because the christian incorporated all the existing holidays onto their own so people will identify with them and join the new religion, as a result not even one of the christian 'holidays' are truly christian but most of them are recognized globally. Even Christmas is set on December because of the winter solstice festival, the actual nativity was probably around April or March instead.

Riot doesn't support any religion holiday but global events because if people can recognize it easily chances are they will buy it, I can say with confident that 70% of the people don't know the real reason to celebrate Saint Patrick Day or his importance, but pretty much every single one of them will wear green that day. You probably don't know who Saint Valentine was but still you buy chocolates for your gf in December weather you are on the US or you are in a budist country like Japan or Nepal. If riot was doing religion related skins you woudl see crosses and jesus and every skin of that line, instead you see the commercialized symbols like pine trees, hearts and four-leaves cloves.

Now go and shout at your local grocery store that the Christmas decoration they have on is insulting to you since you don't celebrate Christmas and pass on your tolerance onto people. (Btw funny how you didn't mention anything about the Chinese new year, which is probably chirstian too lol)

UomoAfide1 votes

You might be shocked but Buddhists have similar figures to that of saints (though this is an oversemplification) and are called Bodisatthva. THE MORE YOU KNOW

Faie1 votes

Because these things are not religious anymore, Christmas is part of the overall culture of the world at this point. Don't try to find problems where there are none.

Placentas1 votes

It's not like they made a Crucified On The Cross Xerath or something like that.

Oglaf1 votes

Christmas as we know it has next to nothing to do with Christianity these days.

It has become it's own cultural thing, separate from religion.

Heck, it has more to do with Coca Cola than Jeebus!

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