Thank god Riot both gave Sej muscles but also didn't overdo it(I have no personal interest or fantasy in looking like a man like many people wanted for her). That kept it pretty, reasonable and cool. Not a mess of hormones and steroids, not a bikini model. Please do the same with Leona, Shyvana and Riven. This is perfect.
My main tank just got better.
WinTheWarOnPants25 votesAs a girl
Joseph Gladstone19 voteswhy does it matter if ur a girl
Nylisa6 votesbecause most guys are fighting over whether she is over-sexualized or too hot there are other threads about this containing these...discussions xD
Mira Arya Enthe23 votesBecause quite often I see guys speaking on behalf of women on "This is slutty, women won't like it." or "Illoai is what women want in games." or "Ahri scares girls from playing games." Big generalizations. So me, as one of many many different and diverse girls who all like different things, likes this realistic approach that neither makes her look like a man or body builder, yet defines that she is a warrior with strength not a temptress spirit like Ahri.
Poppystar5 votesalso, again, just because illaoi isn't what YOU want in games, she is a refreshing female character and I think you need to open your mind to different body types. Do I play illaoi? No. Do i look like illaoi in any way shape or form? No. But that doesn't mean her character design is manly and not what women want. Idk why you have anything wrong with body builders either those girls kick ass.
Mira Arya Enthe2 votesShe has masculine characteristics in her bone structure and frame. Which is fine, again, it just doesn't look good to me. I don't want to be a man.
As for other girls. Tbh most I've seen, know and know of play characters like Annie, Ahri, Lux, Lulu, Janna, Sona, Nami, Soraka, Etc. So more feminine selections than mine. But my mother was a tomboy, business owner and athlete. I follow in her steps. I like Shyvana, Riven, Ashe, Sej and Leona for females.
Poppystar7 votes"I don't want to be a man"
Ok but shes not a man? This sounds like a personal issue. Shes a character. You do not become the character if you play them. You do not have to relate to a character to like them or play them. She is a good character with a nice design. All you have to say is "I'm not a fan of her design because it doesnt suit my style" instead of saying that a character has a failed design because of "masculine features" that are clearly not there in multiple different images of her character put out by riot.
Solitair12 votesWhy does it matter if she says she is one? Sick of this shitty attitude that league players have against girls and women who play the game as their peers. I'm sick of feeling like I have to actively hide my sex, like I have to assume a default male persona everytime I interact with fuckers like you just because it's wrong to even suggest that I could be female--even by accident. You know how much more shit I get just if I play traditionally "girl" champion picks? Fuck that, and fuck this mentality. We shouldn't have to be afraid of having the "girl" label hung over our heads. Because its just what we are. We had no choice. Women exist, and they play league, so deal with it.
Joseph Gladstone12 votesyou're really just proving my point here, im saying it doesnt matter if you're a girl, you dont have to say so. dont really see much guys saying "as a guy"
MinaZer01 votesew feminist sounding, whatever you do dont kill youself
Solitair3 votesYou know what? I don't even care if you call me a feminist. I'm done disowning my vagina just because you people have such a problem with it. And anytime anyone tries to say shit to you, you use buzzwords like "feminist" as a way of plugging your ears and saying "LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU". I don't care anymore. Label me whatever you want.
Nylisa14 votesas another girl 100% agree! sej , riven , leona are my fav girls. i also love sona but she is more of a feminine lady than tomboy :p
Mira Arya Enthe22 votesFeminine is fine but warriors need muscle. Yet at the same time this is a muscular woman. Illoai while cool is a body builder woman with a man's facial features and frame assets.
Sona fits her character. She should look as she does.
Nylisa4 votesyes i like sona a lot regardless. she wouldnt look good with muscles xD
MavenSong56 voteshttps://img.ifcdn.com/images/65ce46b3c3507388576efa42216cdf50cf1e4af978cd0f3b4364e392915bf8ce_1.jpg
no idea what you mean!
but yah, Sona's figure fits, even if she is rather well endowed.
Nylisa7 votesmy eyes...my eyes! noooo!
Hyrum Graff7 voteshttps://img.ifcdn.com/images/65ce46b3c3507388576efa42216cdf50cf1e4af978cd0f3b4364e392915bf8ce_1.jpg
no idea what you mean!
but yah, Sona's figure fits, even if she is rather well endowed.
Holy shit, I laughed at an ifunny pic. This is a new low.
Kilmam15 votesIllaoi, while thicker in general, does not have the build of a body builder nor does she have a man's facial features.
Mira Arya Enthe7 votesMore square jaw, wider chest, broader shoulders, fairly flat transition from waist to hips, comparitively large hands, finger lengths. Men and women with naturally more masculine dna and hormones will have the features she has. That isn't negative, but it also doesn't interest me personally. I want to play as a powerful, feminine, female warrior like new Sej and like I imagine Riven, Shyvana and Leona after their redesigns. Just as some guys prefer imagining themselves as Garen or Trynd rather than Ezreal because he looks less masculine. I like to imagine myself as Riven, Shyvana or Sej, rather than Illoai because she looks less Feminine.
Poppystar6 votesgirl, im sorry i just dont see anything that you are saying. are you looking at her splash only? what about her in game model? her face is round and smooth. her waist is defined. her hips are wide and noticeable. Wider chest? larger hands are not a sign of masculinity... women have hands in all shapes and sizes lol. You're just not correct here. Look at her model. Look at different RIot art pieces of her. Her splash is not her only character design and depiction. You can blame the artist for your distaste but don't call Illaoi masculine for how she is portrayed in one image.
Silly Neeko12 votesWell..... Mabey not Leona..... Leona isnt going into things like blizzards to test her skills and train.
Dont need to have a 6 pack to be strong.
MinaZer015 votesin her defense she does carry around Armor and a shield (and not just a buckler i.e. / 
either) sword, you may not need abs to be strong but you do acquire them from climbing around mount targon and caryying all that heavy shit.
Not to mention at a higher elevation as mount targon, your cardiovascular system works in overdrive because of how much thinner the air gets as you ascend.
She probably has a ridiculous six pack now, just cant see it in any of her skins nor her classic.
Mira Arya Enthe33 votesLeona fought Pantheon for literally days and is from a warrior society.
Ralanr12 votesLooking like a man? I just wanted muscle. Which I got.
Mira Arya Enthe8 votesI was talking more about the "Every girl should have a more masculine frame and face like Illoai" crew. I don't recall you among them. You are one of my last hopes for a reasonable boards member anyway.
Ralanr14 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=24hYEPEg,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-04-29T00:33:16.819+0000)
I was talking more about the "Every girl should have a more masculine frame and face like Illoai" crew. I don't recall you among them. You are one of my last hopes for a reasonable boards member anyway.
Melledoneus12 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=24hYEPEg,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-04-29T00:33:16.819+0000)
You are one of my last hopes for a reasonable boards member anyway.
Who needs to gawk at females when Shenpai exists? https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/s/common/uploaded_files/1450848307-9c3306820770a8eefacaab6d640f4331.png
Skins Project2 votessighs
Melledoneus1 votesHe's beautiful, isn't he, that Shenpai?
Skins Project1 votesRight....
I'm just gonna stand...
Over here now.
Melledoneus6 votes
Over Innsmouth9 votesunzips
Skins Project4 votesI'm telling vlad!!!
Over Innsmouth12 votesTell him, he's welcome to join.
FantasySniper7 votesWoman with abs are literally my fetish.
Penta Penguin6 votesas a girl, i am a girl
Thefrostyviking4 votesAs a person of Nordic descent (as little as that actually says) i fully support Sejuani's new look (s?). A warrior is not supposed to be looking like a.....peaceful noblewoman in armor? With soft skin and no outstanding muscle when said warrior is supposed to be known for physical might.
I thought about it earlier how Ashe is.....strangely thin for someone using a damm longbow but Seju was always a looking like a stick for someone who is swinging around a giant mace, riding her boar ( That develops legs!) while also having been training and fighting since a young age.
Although Ashe could be explained with her being a magic user, same for Leo---but shyv is not even fully human, who knows how dragons grow. They might be born super beefy and slim down as they train and gain density instead, clarification is needed on this point.
Which leaves Riven......She is supposed to be a Ki user but even lee who is another one looks like a greek statue....but Akali looks super slim and she does it as well...
Riven and akali could both stand to have more well defined bodies, Riven especially being a frontal fighter with a focus on power, akali can get away with being light and so but even a ninja should look like she trains i think since one can train the body without looking like a mountain of muscle.
My English is a bit lacking in some areas but i think being toned is the most accurate description for that? Lol´s female champions could stand to be a bit more "toned".
And lastly i wish to say that i think new Seju looks really good visually^^
Mira Arya Enthe4 votesYour English is great actually. Better than many people I know here in the USA.
I agree, Riven and Shyvana should be more toned and defined for certain. Leona I'd argue too, she and Pantheon walked similar paths in their early life and Targon is rough to live in.
Akali could use some light definement. As a bi-sexual I like my Ninja's sexy, but also reasonable. Realistically as a female assassin she has a conflict, on one end "Female Ninja Magic" says she should be as attractive as possible so she can distract, seduce and earn pity. While on another end a steathly assassin should be able to draw minimal attention when in disguised or dressed casually. And lastly needs the strength to climb, jump, leap, crawl, fight, sprint even treading lightly takes disciplined muscles. I leave it to Riot to find the right balance. But I will note that I enjoy her current appearance.
As for Ashe, my main ADC. She should remain 'lighter' than Sej but have some definement, at least look like she could handle going onto the tundras and stuff. But not too much, we want to reflect that she is the 'Civil Queen' with a magical bow.
PaladinNO3 votesSpeaking of the proportions of the female assassins, Katarina is the one giving me some concern. Not long after signing up (back in 2013), I was made aware of someone described as "the boobs of noxus" (along with "dat ass Irelia") - at the time I didn't know who the hell they were talking about, but I remember thinking "what kind of game IS this!?".
Considering she is as nimble as she is, doing backflips and double-jumps non-stop...well, I don't know enough about female physiology, but should she really be able to do all that while sporting the 2 melons that she's carrying around on her chest all day?
https://euw.merch.riotgames.com/media/catalog/product/k/a/katarina_1.jpg
Mira Arya Enthe7 votesMy mother was a gymnastics master and quite busty at that. Realistically Kat would need some sort of compression, a sports bra or more for her tech level some sort of wrap like Riven wears. But I let some things slide for the sake of fantasy. We will see what Rito does.
MinaZer03 votes[deleted]
Mira Arya Enthe15 votesShe is Nordic. Leona is far closer to Spartan.
Skins Project7 votesActually spartan women DID train, they could fight but did not go out to war.
Papa Andrei3 votesWasn't it considered Elegant in Sparta for women to carry small swords or knives on them openly?
Skins Project3 votesMhm..
They also told their husbands to come back with their enemies head a platter, or their own..
I.E. you don't come back here without being successful.
The spartans also actually were quite ahead of their time when it came to sex equality.
