Wasn't making Varus a Darkin a bit ...out of the blue?

GenoXx··7 votes·1,547 views

I understand Riot's been listening to fan theories for years.....but I thought Varus was already an archer who just got power from the Pit of Pallas corruption. Thinking that the corruption is what made the bow look like that....

All of a sudden we have Raast confirming he's a Darkin? How? Is Varus lore going to get retconned just like that?...

20 Comments

LSmaster166 votes

Just my take on this: Aatrox is a Darkin, Kayn is a human wielding a scythe with a Darkin inside of it, Varus is a human corrupted by a Darkin trapped inside of the well which Rhaast is addressing.

DoktorKaiser2 votes

Its more like this :

  • Aatrox is a darkin totally corrupting someone and turning him into a demon who handles the weapon which is the true Aatrox

  • Varus is a darkin half way through corrupting a human, what bothers me with this is : 1) the person is named Varus in the current lore not the darkin bow, they need to change it or give bow a name, but with Rhaast voice lines it looks like bow is named Varus so they gotta give the human handling it another name 2) if the human handling the Varus bow isnt corrupted fully then why doesnt he communicate with the weapon like Kayn or is his mind taken over by the bow already Hopefully they solve this with Varus lore or something.

  • Kayn is a human actually fighting the influence of a darkin scythe, trying not to get corrupted and turned into a demon

Thats my take on it all.

GenoXx2 votes

The thing is....he already had a bow. There just happen to be another bow in the thing he's guarding?

Ralanr8 votes

Why not? A bow isn't an uncommon weapon. It makes sense that a bow could be used as a vessel to imprison something like a Darkin.

GenoXx3 votes

I mean it's really about how Riot is just making fan theories coming true while not being creative apparently. Hinting a lazy choice....Because I thought they don't try to read theories they last said, otherwise it would seem like they aren't using their pwn ideas..

Ralanr3 votes

There's nothing wrong with reading theories if it leads to a good idea, and sometimes you can reach the same idea without seeing it elsewhere.

I wouldn't argue it's lazy either. If it makes sense to what Riot's vision in the overall story is, then I don't see why they shouldn't do it.

It can also show that Riot does listen to their fan base and wants to support our creativity.

LSmaster163 votes

I think the Darkin was imprisoned in the well and Varus released it to help him get revenge leading to it corrupting him and his bow.

Ralanr6 votes

It allows for more connections which can make the world actually feel like a world rather than just a setting.

Think of it like how the Noxus capital is now Mordekaiser's original fortress. It wasn't like that before, but making that connection official adds a little depth and suspense into the situation.

With Varus's bow being a Darkin, we now have a better idea of what he's struggling with and what he may become if it isn't too late. We get a sense of the scale.

GenoXx1 votes

Then what is the Pit of Pallas? Isn't there still corruption seething? For All i know, anyone can become a Darkin just going to that place. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure a choice like that is going to fit right.

Ralanr3 votes

Simply put, the pit no longer exists. Instead it was replaced by the bow as Varus's duty to guard.

Icestar11864 votes

The pit was containing a Darkin which is now slowly corrupting Varus. Varus's Darkin is less talkative than Rhaast, though.

TLDR the pit was retconned into a Darkin, it seems.

ModKnightsKemplar3 votes

I think this was ALWAYS the plan with Varus. Your post makes it sound like this is retcon, but that being that Varus interacts with has always been a mysterious part of his backstory. We're just now getting to the point that Riot is comfortable with unveiling some of that mystery with the champions, and I hope that's in preparation to dive a little deeper with many of them in extended lore, like they did with the Shurima event.

Whyte Lyon2 votes

Old lore, so friggin underdeveloped.

Cetri2 votes

I want to say either a rioter or Sharjo confirmed that the Darkin were spirits bound to weapons. That said, it's possible that the Pit of Pallas, or similar pits, are a/the key component in forging Darkin weapons, being the source of the spirit which is bound to the weapon. Perhaps, once upon a time, there was a Pit of Rhaast or a Pit of Aatrox, or "Pit of Pallas" is just the general term for the wellsprings where the malevolent spirits dwell.

If this is true, then yes, the corruption is what made the bow and Varus look like that, because the corruption was a Darkin spirit all along.

Hayaishi22 votes

I've always known that whatever was taking over Varus is a Darkin. If you pay close attention to his animations there's an idle one where his bow is pulsating and he puts his right hand over it as if trying to keep it under control makes it seem as if he bow was alive.

Mogarl1 votes

It's not really detrimental noone is supposed to look into the pit so for all we know it could have been a bow or a bundle of arrows. It also could have been a case of a darkin being imprisoned in a pit instead of in a weapon. Finally you just have to add an extra a into Pallas. Paalas or Palaas, myabe even Paalaas.

New head-canon the people that imprisoned him asked him his name before they shoved him into the hole. As he fell he replied "Paalaas!" the Ionians thinking he was just yelling as he fell figured the extra a's weren't part of the name. Thus it's the pit of Palas.

Killaburn1 votes

what if the bow that he was guarding doesn't really want varus so instead of giving it its full potential, the bow just corrupted him. we all know that the darkin weapons find best successors like the aatrox and trynda story and assuming to say that the bow unwilling choose varus because in varus old lore it says that the palace was on corruption so in my knowledge the bow grudgingly choose varus as a vessel only to escape the ruins and as he is inside varus he can find a better successor. that's why the bow doesn't communicate with varus. Another wild guess is that some darkin is watching varus in the shadows like aatrox to trynda and the darkin is testing varus if he is worthy to be the successor of his power.

GreenLore1 votes

Varus is likely not the darkin,but merely the host.

There are honestly 2 rather easy solutions to this: 1.Make the bow the soruce of the corruption.The darkins are sentient weapons and Varus does have an organic bow.So it'd be easy to just replace "mysterious purple flame that corrupts him" with "mysterious purple bow that corrupts him"

2.Make it so that when the physical form of a darkin gets destroyed,their spirit is able to bind itself to another object.So in that case the purple flame would have been the spirit of the darkin,sealed away in the temple and when Varus broke the seal,the darkin bound itself to his bow.

GenoXx1 votes

The one im getting is number 1. I just don't understand the quick retcon for it.

GreenLore1 votes

Honestly the corruption was unexplained before.It was just there and no one had any idea what it is. So riot likely thought about where it could be coming from and decided that darkins would fit the most,as Varus has a living weapon.

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