Pink Ward Slot (In response to "late game pink wards, issue")

Hershell·6/22/2016, 2:37:32 PM·341 votes·12,908 views

http://imgur.com/tBozgjz

So here is an edit I made of the current in game HUD, so you get an idea of the concept.

Currently item 2043 Vision Wards are consumable items in League of Legends, meaning that it will be placed in your item slots and can be used there.

The issue of it being a consumable item, is that when you have no item slots left to purchase it, you just can't buy it and this hits hard late game when your trinkets cannot provide enough vision with its cooldowns and vision wards are a necessity for there to be counter play against stealth-based champions (like Akali Shaco Teemo Twitch ).

My suggestion is implementing another slot for pink wards itself, and not placing it in the items slot. This allows for the purchase of vision wards late game or even when you have a full item slot. The only downside of this is that it requires another keybinding for the new slot and the HUD has to be changed a little bit such that it stays similar regardless of the map, which I'm sure aren't that big of problems as to stop the implementation of this into the game.

Please leave any feedback, thoughts or ideas on the topic in the comment section below.

148 Comments

Forhonor3216/22/2016, 3:24:19 PM35 votes

I'm completely in agreement with this idea. Dealing with stealth champions late game really is a pain when you have a full item build but no room for a pink ward. My only comment about this is that it the slot would have to open fairly late in the game around 20-30 min mark just because having right from the start feels a little unfair for those the stealth champions early game.

WhiteMage7716/22/2016, 6:49:49 PM12 votes

I miss being able to upgrade the trinket to a pink ward.

MrryZ6/22/2016, 5:13:11 PM11 votes

But won't that just completely negate any viability of stealth champions? if theres a dedicated slot for a pink ward theres no reason people won't buy them meaning stealth champions lose a large part of their kit. I see why it's a good idea though as it can get super annoying to have to choose between a final item or countering stealth champions.

DrCyanide6/22/2016, 3:36:05 PM6 votes

I like the two dots (indicating you've got two wards available). If it was in-game I'd also like the icon to dim if I don't have any wards.

item 3362 and item 3361 , how I miss you :'(

Vik4prez6/22/2016, 7:21:16 PM6 votes

Support will be able to build 6 items? A small but important victory for the most thankless of roles!

Mandang06/22/2016, 4:38:39 PM3 votes

I 100% support a slot for vision - I don't see the counterargument that slot limitation on vision is an interesting aspect of gameplay or adds anything to the game.

That said, you could also map shift+(number) to toggle a ward slot or sightstone between placing pink and green wards, to save you a slot if you want to have both.

Hershell6/22/2016, 6:55:42 PM3 votes

To counter a point many people have been making:

Personally, I feel this implementation is not "unfair" towards stealth champions and it would not negate the viability of them as all this does is add an extra slot for vision wards. item 2043 Vision wards by itself has always been a counter to stealth and making a slot for it only allows the usage for it late game (when you have a full build).

Stealth can really be a problem late game as your carry can die almost instantaneously because an assassin pops out of nowhere and kills them and from there it's almost as if it's a lost team fight. Think of it this way, if you were the ADC, this atleast creates some sort of counter-play to assassins, rather than hoping your teammates will quickly react and peal for you in the few seconds you will die in as you can't really rely on teammates on solo queue.

LordBahamutXVI6/23/2016, 9:37:29 AM3 votes

Or bring back Pink Trinket. Please Riot.

Jesus Is My King6/22/2016, 8:27:16 PM3 votes

sacrifice vision for full build. get over it. how much more op do you want to be? to the point where no one plays stealth champs ever again? jesus.

DirtyRookMain6/22/2016, 5:49:46 PM3 votes

I can't help but agree with Orange, this would be beneficial to all of us. It would have other effects as well, such as more cooperation with vision control/denial.

Kouhey6/23/2016, 10:54:33 PM2 votes

to be fucking honest, it's just a disgrace they reworked the trinket system, it was such a healthy, fair and diversified aid to vision control. But Riot wants everyone to not have a disadvantage if they forget to upgrade their trinkets. Well, if you keep forgetting to upgrade/change trinkets you deserve to be bad.

Mast3rShake6/22/2016, 6:53:20 PM2 votes

It's too easy of a fix so that means riot won't do it

Jesus is Savior6/22/2016, 9:18:50 PM2 votes

This was suggested over 6 months ago during the preseason lmao. Riot doesn't care.

They even addressed the fact that this was an issue (and still didn't do anything about it).

Madra6/22/2016, 9:47:40 PM2 votes

I've always felt that a clear and well defined utility tree should have a vision ward slot available as a high level talent purchase. The problem is that we no longer have a well defined and unique utility tree anymore. Something along the lines of... "Vision wards now cost only 60g and go into a unique inventory slot."

facemelter7106/22/2016, 11:11:51 PM2 votes

I like it but it might be 2 much. They could just bring back the pink wards trinket. Also lets make ruby sightstone not shitty add 300 gold to the combination cost and give it a passive that reads. This champion may have 1 additional pink ward on the rift. (2) total at a time. Badda Bing badda boom.

AsianProdigy6/22/2016, 11:35:00 PM2 votes

And also, if this happens, then give support the ability to carry around more fucking wards so that we don't have to deal with 5 enemies with pinks and sweepers clearing out the wards they just placed

Kosm1K6/23/2016, 3:38:48 AM2 votes

Please riot, you can't really expect us to forsake an item slot just to counter all the stealth champs that have been running rampant since the vision changes started. You created this problem when oracle's elixer was removed from SR, and only made it worse by updating the trinkets and completely removing the pink ward trinket upgrade, which may have been too strong yes, but now the game is practically lost if you're against a jungler like eve because it's impossible to keep everything warded when the TEAM as a WHOLE can only place one vision ward each, which becomes maybe one or two max as the game progresses thanks to them needing to buy items. Having a stealth champ in a team now vastly increases the odds of them winning because of how incredibly difficult it is to play against them now. I understand stealth needed to be stronger since it used to be that going stealth was useless, but now stealth is crazy, and having a good eve on a team just completely puts the odds on their favor thanks to that one pick. Not to mention the fact that vision wards are now visible and have less health, which makes them simple to just clear away, and most of the time, it's difficult to prevent it. Either bring back item 2047 to SR or give us a pink ward slot to make things slightly more bearable late game.

This other post on boards leads me to believe that the issue is not only promoting spamming stealth, but also toxicity.

VentusDragoon6/23/2016, 6:44:23 AM2 votes

I just wish that they would bring back the old pink ward upgrade. That worked wonderfully.

CheftoniFTW6/23/2016, 12:18:44 PM2 votes

Who wants to bet no Red will show up?

ntbcool6/23/2016, 1:53:30 PM2 votes

what about a consumable slot instead? pretty much the same thing but works with other consumables like pots and elixirs, would make a little more flexible and interesting. nevertheless still a great idea

AsianProdigy6/22/2016, 9:12:47 PM1 votes

If this idea were to be implemented, then shouldn't there be some kind of compensation for champs that rely heavily on stealth? (e.g. Evelynn, shaco, twitch, etc..)

I feel if the whole team were able to have pink wards at their disposable throughout the entire game, then these champs would practically become useless as stealth is what makes these champions.