[Assassin Class Rework] Very Minor Zed change to reduce frustration.

Arakadia··9 votes·1,032 views

Zed can no longer teleport back to his ultimates shadow untill it kills the target. Minor buffs could compensate but this would help frustration alot, he doesn't get a free blink if he screws up. Unlike champs such as Kat, he currently doesn't even have to kill his target before escaping.

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zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Agree on all except the compensation! Unlike zed, Kata didnt get compensated for her passive nerf :p

Emerald Fang1 votes

No, just make his goddamn delayed damage from his ult go away. It's annoying as fuck when you escape a zed ult, only to take mysterious damage that kills you b/c unless you have heal/barrier/instant heals in your kit, you can't do anything. Same with trist. Just make all the damage up front, please.

Magikae1 votes

Delays are actually one of Riot's best mechanics imo it adds more planning and skill into the ability. Zed however has his delay which can deal insane damage. I mean if youre an ap mid you could get a zhonyas because the delay is reactable. The frustration is a nightmare

Avienal1 votes

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No, just make his goddamn delayed damage from his ult go away. It's annoying as fuck when you escape a zed ult, only to take mysterious damage that kills you b/c unless you have heal/barrier/instant heals in your kit, you can't do anything. Same with trist. Just make all the damage up front, please.

Very sure you don't know how Zed's ultimate works. He marks a target and then he has to damage the target to create stored damage from 25/45/45% of that based on the rank then add his Attack damage to that to decide the amount.

Literally if you escape from before he even has an ability to Q, E or even auto you, your only going to take the equilvency to his auto attack on top of you. Which can easily be dodged with a Fizz move, ekko ultimate, Zhonya 'stasis' or similar move or just plain using a shield item effect, ability or the summoner spell barrier which no one seems to even like because of the flash niche gag.

Really plenty of other champions have more ridiculous ultimates such as Cho'gath and Darius BOTH deal true damage when they hit you with it, the former who gets even an execute marker and will gain +100 max hp or recover some if he's hit the +600 hp cap, the latter can increase it FURTHER by 20% per stack of hemmorage they have on you, the true damage also gets a AD scaling bonus on top of that for Darius and he can chain dunk reset the ability on kills to let him do a literal 'penta dunk'. This ain't even counting Yasuo's mass group damage nuke, the insane jukes that Bard does with his AoE stasis, Lets not even forget about Fiddlesticks, Kennen, Heimdinger, Morganna, Maokai, etc. champions who jump on you, proc their ultimate (heimer just pops a turret and upgrades it at the very least) and then pops Zhonyas and watch as you get utterly destroyed while trying to escape the kill zone of the ultimate.

Even if Zed is among the 'top tier' in terms of his energy'based system as part of the ninja champions, range ability and shadow mimic and teleports, once you know his kit he can be extremely less viable, especially if he constantly wastes Qs to try and hit you and can't secure any early game kills or assists to help push him along to his kill potential line items.

Thunderspam1 votes

gotta love those pentadunks :)

Arakadia1 votes

I'm pretty sure the delay helps give counterplay.

Thunderspam1 votes

Idk if he really needs any changes. He is hard to play against for some people but I just take teemo or lux to play against him and lower elo players don't know what to do how to handle me cus I play/stun where hes gonna warp back to his shadow and then get called a master because I killed a zed(which tbh isn't that hard if you play against his shadows for younger zed players) I cant speak for master zed players like RedMercy and Faker, but I know that he is hard to master. In addition the learning curve required for those who have already mastered him will be steep and require practice to get used to it. May be something to look into after worlds so that the players in it don't have to change their style

PS is this the same Arakadia who does Scurbs and the LoL animated?

Matarra1 votes

Minor? That will literally gut him, he already has a .5 second delay on top of his delayed burst which is more then enough time for an ahri to throw a guaranteed charm behind her self. Oh wait a minute, this is yet another change by a low elo player that probably doesnt even play the champ to have enough respect to the champ to come up with a change other then reducing his fun factor by adding clunkeyness.

Arakadia1 votes

Maybe its too much but he is pretty ridiculous at times, not OP but ridiculous to fight at times.

Please do not use my rank as an excuse, besides in preseason I was silver III. And I have nearly lv5 on Zed. Of course Im no pro but I understand his kit and even non-zed players understand his kit.

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