Aatrox rework, Team Sustain/Physical Damage support (idea from Dunal)

hudzell··5 votes·1,512 views
Should just rework Aatrox into a physical damage support already.

Got the idea to create something like this from Dunal. Would love to know what you think.

The rework focuses on him still being able to sustain like a bitch, but mainly functions on supporting his allies and providing moderate utility and CC.

Passive - Blood Well Aatrox takes the blood from his health costs and 2% of damage dealt from basic attacks and stores it; capping at 250-1230 (based on level); able to use it for other purposes. Aatrox gains 0.3%-0.55% (based on level) bonus attack speed for every 1% in his Blood Well, up to a maximum of 30%-55% (based on level) bonus attack speed. If Aatrox dies, the last of his Blood Well is transferred as health to the nearest ally within 800 units, prioritizing marked allies. (120/110/100/90 second cooldown at levels 1/6/11/16)

Q - Dark Flight 10% current HP cost, 20/18/16/14/12 second cooldown, 800/150 range

Aatrox leaps to target area after a 1 second delay, knocking back enemies from the center and stunning them in a small area for 1.25 seconds, dealing 90/140/190/240/290 (+60% used HP) physical damage.

W - Blood Thirst 0 cost, 12/11/10/9/8 second cooldown

PASSIVE: Every third auto attack, Aatrox is healed for 40/45/50/55/60 (+40% bonus AD), doubled when he is below 50% maximum health, also filling his Blood Well by 1/1.5/2/2.5/3%.

ACTIVE: Aatrox heals the target ally, draining 10% of his maximum blood well into the target. If the current amount stored is below 10%, it drains 100% of the current amount instead.


E - Blood Mark 0 cost, 14/13/12/11/10 second cooldown, 300 range

ACTIVE: Aatrox marks the target, only one mark may be present.

Ally Champion Cast: Once the target takes fatal damage and is within 600 units of Aatrox, he and they are put in a stasis for 3.5 seconds as Aatrox draws the health from his Blood Well, plus 15% of Aatrox's current HP and imports it to his marked ally, reviving them. This ability is unable to be cast until Aatrox's Blood Well is full.

Enemy Cast: This unit takes 10% more damage from Aatrox, and half that from his allies. If the marked enemy unit dies, Aatrox heals his nearby allies for 8/9/10/11/12% of his maximum health, and he heals for half that over 2 seconds. If it's a champion that dies, the heal is modified to 16/18/20/22/24% max HP, and the ability is put on a 28/26/24/22/20 second cooldown instead.

R - Massacre 0 cost, 90/80/70 second cooldown, 600/350/100 range, cone has his total attack range and a 70° angle

Aatrox draws in the blood of his foes, dealing 200/250/300 (+50 per champion hit) (+10% missing Blood Well amount) physical damage to all enemies around him, slowing them by 35% for 2/2.5/3 seconds, filling his Blood Well by 20% per champion hit. Also gains attack range and 30/35/40% attack speed for 12 seconds.

During this time, Aatrox's basic attack's cleave, (think twitch ulti) dealing 40/50/60% AD to enemies in a cone infront of him (does not deal to the original target), and 10/17.5/25% of all self-healing done is healed to nearby allies. Aatrox's basic attacks and cleave also inflict Mortal Wounds to the target for 3.5 seconds, empowering allied champion's basic attack damage to that target by 3% and shredding 3% of the target's bonus armor. This can stack up to 10 times, and allied champions can stack it after Aatrox has inflicted the first stack. The enemy is slowed by 1% for each stack of Mortal Wounds.

12 Comments

Dunal3 votes

I like it!

I do think the ult could do with being a bit more on the side of utility though.

My idea was to make it like a controlled Taric ult. After using it. You can press either Q, W, or E for a damage aura, a movement aura, or a lifesteal/vamp respectively. Giving you three options overall. Otherwise the self bonuses (attack range, attack speed etc...) can still remain but toned down to the point of being too strong when solo. So that part can still remain.

hudzell2 votes

Thanks for the feedback! I've edited the ultimate to give it more utility (that would go great with runaan's!) and toned down the self-boosts and the damage.

Dunal2 votes

Nice. I do think though that the ult (and everything Aatrox does) should also be physical damage in order to solidify Aatrox as your support pick when your team is purely lacking it. That's the kind of niche that would be good for him.

It would also give him some extra counterplay in the form of building armor against his bot lane.

On that not, adding an armor shred mechanic to him somewhere would really work. Add it to the E maybe and replacing the +% damage? Also, make it bonus armor shred because that's apparently cool these days (and doesn't punish squishies as much).

hudzell2 votes

View new R effects ;) Also, boom, physical damage.

Aatrox's basic attacks and cleave also inflict Mortal Wounds to the target for 3.5 seconds, empowering allied champion's basic attack damage to that target by 3% and shredding 3% of the target's bonus armor. This can stack up to 10 times, and allied champions can stack it after Aatrox has inflicted the first stack. The enemy is slowed by 1% for each stack of Mortal Wounds.

Dunal2 votes

And with that, he could well be a very cool and unique champ who would certainly see more play!

I'm just worried that Riot will just do minor changes to him going forward in an attempt to 'fix' him... But no amount of 'fixing' can give him a defined niche I feel.

A support champ for people who want to feel like an actual fighter would be a great addition. Best thing you have at the moment is probably Leona? Who is a CC tank so yeah...

Zack Shadows3 votes

But what if

u didnt

Narasimha1 votes

Honestly? This is a bad idea. You've tried to give him literally EVERYTHING. AOE cc, heals, damage increase, a revive, more heals, armor shred, and even more damage increase. This is literally Taric 2.0.

Aatrox has a lot of problems. But making him into a support isn't the solution. Not to mention it's literally the complete opposite of his personality and lore.

KlamzChowder4 votes

{quoted} Aatrox has a lot of problems. But making him into a support isn't the solution. Not to mention it's literally the complete opposite of his personality and lore.

How? Did you even read his lore?

"The earliest tale of Aatrox is as old as recorded history. It tells of a war between two great factions remembered only as the Protectorate and the Magelords. Over time, the Magelords won a series of crushing victories, leaving them on the brink of obliterating their sworn enemy forever. On the day of their final confrontation, the Protectorate army found themselves outnumbered, exhausted, and poorly equipped. They braced for inevitable defeat.

Just when all hope seemed lost, Aatrox appeared among the ranks of the Protectorate. With but a few words, he urged the soldiers to fight to the last before throwing himself into battle. His presence inspired the desperate warriors. At first, they could only watch in awe as this unknown hero cleaved through their enemies, his body and blade moving in unison as if one being. Soon, the warriors found themselves imbued with a potent thirst for battle. They followed Aatrox into the fray, each fighting with the furious strength of ten until they had won a most unlikely victory." (Copied straight from his champ page)

TonyTonyMordecai3 votes

Can confirm

Narasimha2 votes

So by this logic, J4 should be a support, right? Or Darius?

Aatrox is a LEADER. He inspires through example. He encourages carnage and bloodshed by showing how it's done. He is the front line. He is the one leading the charge to victory through bloody and (metaphorical) fire. He isn't someone who would heal ANYONE. He wouldn't revive allies who fall. An aura buff would be fine on him, that's something that people have always asked for on his ult. A fear would be even better, though harder to balance. Point being, he isn't someone who fights for others. Aatrox is a champion that makes others fight for him.

KlamzChowder1 votes

J4's says nothing similar except that he fought people...darius...not really....basically, both the examples you gave, the champion's story doesn't REVOLVE around what aatrox's story does, but if you really see it that way, more power to you.

Rook Loux1 votes

As an Aatrox main i would hate this. also you only gave one ability a "cost", which seems odd.

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