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Assasins dominating midlane. Things like Zoe game?(An idea to return viktor and azir)

Hyquiem··4 votes·2,475 views

It’s obv riot, ITS FUCKING OBVIOUS.

BRING BACK THE MIGHTY LORDS OF MIDLANE YES I AM SAYING Azir and Viktor. STOP crashing damage around things when the 2 champions who were once rewarding can be used as a solution to fix this meta. I think it’s fair to say, when the new akali comes out and a chance of her and the other hyper mobile melee assasin being meta(guess they are) . These 2 champions once made it so they weren’t so insane to deal with.

For a Azir’s solution

It’s fair to say Azir holding the e and r, is stupid, and it’s also fair to say his q range should not be reverted but it should gain atleast more then the current. (For an easy solution) increase the q range(not to the old cause that becomes horror in my hands) AND RETURN THE UNDASHIBLE ULTIMATE. This will stop things like irelia talon akali(new) in the early game since azir won’t have to risk it and feed. Also if to remove 2 abilties it would best to be removing e and r. The e change, Azir now commands his soliders to alternate from spear to shield, the solider now when azir hits q the solider knocks up a target, this solider also deals damage but it’s 20% less then the spear solider but this solider converts all of the Ap to ad. Now for the r rework, Azir calls upon ththe mighty sands summons the elite soliders, these soliders have swords and shields, and they are summoned 1/2/3 in r. These soliders do true dmg and can only last for 20 seconds they can only be moved by q every 5 seconds.

Or option B.. Revert Azir cut down range by 120, bring back e knockup and emperors will... also ap ratios on w and q are .7

Now for something. That’s is recommend by LS(credit to LS)

Viktor solution “GIVE THE CHAMPION SOME FUCKING DAMAGE” and when it becomes too much you can tone it down, or you could add an enhancement of damage on if someone is in his w, or etc. just give him damage..

23 Comments

Skullgetti3 votes

Zoe has a 45% winrate all around, i don't get why people have such a colossal problem with her. Fizz, talon, etc do the same damage while being more mobile and less squishy. Azir is very good right now , no need to change him.

saltran1 votes

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Zoe/

Where does Zoe have 45% winrate?

Skullgetti1 votes

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https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Zoe/

Where does Zoe have 45% winrate?

https://champion.gg/champion/Zoe/Middle?league=plat

45% in bronze, 47% in Silver, 48% in gold, 47% in Plat.

saltran1 votes

45% bronze =/= 45% all around like you said on the first coment.

She's a hard to use champ so it makes sense that brozes and silvers perform bad with her and I don't think that there's a problem with that.

Skullgetti1 votes

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45% bronze =/= 45% all around like you said on the first coment.

She's a hard to use champ so it makes sense that brozes and silvers perform bad with her and I don't think that there's a problem with that.

47% in plat and above and people are still constantly bombarding the boards with "NERF ZOE NERF ZOE BURN THE WITCH ON THE STAKE"...

0 Hogapu2 votes

you using zoe's winrate to say that she sucks, while azir has the worst winrate of all champions

Skullgetti2 votes

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you using zoe's winrate to say that she sucks, while azir has the worst winrate of all champions

She doesn't suck, she is fine/a bit overnerfed. But i'm absolutely tired of people spamming for nerfs because they got oneshot by a 10/0 zoe once and blame it on the champion rather than not thinking "wait, maybe i should watch out for the sleep debuff she might throw my way". A good zoe is alot easier to counter than a good azir

0 Hogapu2 votes

i mean i dont care about zoe's state, you're using two opposite arguments to express your point. -"no zoe isnt op, look she got a poor winrate" -"azir is very good now, no need to change him" while having an even poorer winrate.

Skullgetti2 votes

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i mean i dont care about zoe's state, you're using two opposite arguments to express your point. -"no zoe isnt op, look she got a poor winrate" -"azir is very good now, no need to change him" while having an even poorer winrate.

Azir is a very mechanically difficult champion, he is considered to be one of the, if not the most difficult champions in the game. His low winrate is due to his high skill FLOOR.

Zoe is a moderately difficult but hard to master champion with a MODERATE skillfloor.

0 Hogapu1 votes

then say this in your 1st comment xD you're using two opposite arguments in the same comment, and we have to push up the discuss to this point for you to justify your statement :|

Hyquiem1 votes

Dude even if you got a sheet on playing azir, it’s fair to tell you azir is a champion who becomes dominant b/c of his team, since azir by himself can’t do much super fast vs 4 fed people

UnboundHades3 votes

Azir lacks counterplay when he's strong since he doesn't need to risk anything to do his damage along with the shuffle basically being an easier aoe insec that forms a wall

Hyquiem3 votes

Except so many champions have dashes now,it’s like no one realizes when azir does an insec you could just jump on him.. why do you all think Azir would get an early game buff, the only buff Azir needs is a bit more range.. fking helll it’s like you don’t know how to beat an azir..

UnboundHades1 votes

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Except so many champions have dashes now,it’s like no one realizes when azir does an insec you could just jump on him.. why do you all think Azir would get an early game buff, the only buff Azir needs is a bit more range.. fking helll it’s like you don’t know how to beat an azir..

you're basically saying "just jump on the azir after he does the shuffle because its not like you will die in less than 2 seconds to 3 of his soldiers and the rest of his team" and its the most delusional shit ive ever seen

and please tell me how to beat a late game azir and not just say "you could just jump on him"

Hyquiem1 votes

Your not ment to beat a late game azir. If you let him scale up then it’s your fault. Simple as fucking that.

UnboundHades1 votes

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Your not ment to beat a late game azir. If you let him scale up then it’s your fault. Simple as fucking that.

but you just said to just jump on him after he does the shuffle which normally only happens mid to late game.

stop trying to act like azir has a balanced kit

Hyquiem1 votes

Not even acting, his kit is overloaded but so what for all I care is that you don’t know how to beat an azir.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Eh I'd be happy with Ori, Vik, and Syndra. Azir is to game warping. Although I'd rather see him then the current meta. Ree I'm about to play Syndra into Wukong Mid, fun stuff.

saltran1 votes

Azir will never be balanced if he can do an aoe insec along with huge dps from long range, for other mages like Viktor I agree with you.

Hyquiem1 votes

You do realize.., azir mains hate then insec and I provided a replacement...for the e and r.. aswell but meddler doesn’t want to remove it..

saltran1 votes

Really? I remember a time ago they were tweaking him and asked Azir mains to choose between long range dmg and the insec.

They choosed the insec, his kit barely changed and had to be overnerfed again because the actual issue was never fixxed, you maybe hate it but majority of Azir mains were very vocal about wanting the Insec over the Dps.

Hyquiem1 votes

But the majority of azir mains stated that damage was never the problem we all knew choosing to keep the shuffle was to add damage, except the idiots that chose had no idea how broken the combo was. Now we just sit b/c the Azir players who wanted the insec now complain. When they asked for it.

Ifneth1 votes

Kings are kings because they beat and oppress everyone else.

I’ve played against Victor and Azir in their nerfed states, and it’s obvious to me why they’re in it. Those champions don’t lane. They would just poke and farm from range while also bullying, snowball the mid-game, and scale into unstoppable monsters if their numbers weren’t deliberately gimped.

Do not un-Azir either of them.

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