Zoe is officially brain dead

Hyquiem·Dec 31, 2017·5 votes·1,026 views

As if now all most every high elo and low elo mid lane main knows Zoe is stupidly over powered. I know everyone is dealing with this but I’m going to still speak my mind. I was playing azir vs Zoe at lvl 1 I bet almost most people far correct it was obvious her mission was to straight foward kill me. At lvl 1 why is a Zoe allowed to just q and auto me to death. Nerf this champ seriously even if she’s hard when they see a squishey mid she just wanted to kill me. I can’t do any thing if she spams q and barely looses mana

11 Comments

DanzibeDec 31, 20173 votes

You realize that of her pushable button keys, her Q is her main source of damage yes? Her W is passive, her E does a small amount of damage, her R does no damage at all and her Passive only matters when she uses an ability and gets a mini lichbane proc. She's not over powered, its a skillshot. Dodge it, its not hard. The only time there is a problem is if you can't see it coming, which is fine because skillshot, or you get E-Q which is the combo that is supposed to work.

TehNACHODec 31, 20172 votes

She's not over powered, its a skillshot

Just going to preemptively defend you real quick.

OP, if dodging Zoe's skillshot is so hard, do you also happen to hate Vel'Koz with a passion?

DanzibeDec 31, 20171 votes

seriously. one E-Q-W combo of Vel'Koz gives most people crippling depression

SithesisLordDec 31, 20172 votes

if dodging Zoe's skillshot is so hard, do you also happen to hate Vel'Koz with a passion?

I mean, Vel'Koz gets punished very harshly for missing his stuff. Zoe? She gets rewarded for missing and for hitting her E. She misses it, now people have a zone with a bullshittingly big hitbox to avoid. She hits it, people can cleanse Drowsy, which, despite being a requirement for Sleepy to happen, still results in it happening.

Zoe is just another example of the quality of CertainlyT's designs whenever he's not on the same leash he was wearing during the WW rework. Creative, sure, but almost 100% impossible to balance.

TehNACHODec 31, 20172 votes

"Rewarded" "Bullshittingly big"

Jesus dude she's not post-rework Fizz, you can stop jerking her off.

And stop using CertainlyT as a black sheep for you to be so bad against a skillshot based champion.

ShiniXIIDec 31, 20173 votes

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You realize that of her pushable button keys, her Q is her main source of damage yes? Her W is passive, her E does a small amount of damage, her R does no damage at all and her Passive only matters when she uses an ability and gets a mini lichbane proc. She's not over powered, its a skillshot. Dodge it, its not hard. The only time there is a problem is if you can't see it coming, which is fine because skillshot, or you get E-Q which is the combo that is supposed to work.

man you are a life saver, so i just have to dodge every skillshot? wow dude! i never thought about that before but i have a small problem, her stun explodes into a bubble with the mass of an aa range. and if i dont dodge that one im dead, but if i want to dodge that one i have to take a hit from her q can you tell me what to do in that situation? also this happens every 4 seconds because her cooldowns are retarded. if you answer all of my questions i will genuinely agree with you

Dorans PantsDec 31, 20172 votes

she is the blitz of midlane. You can miss all your skillshots as often as you want, but as soon as you manage to hit 1 e, you get a free kill. the longer the game goes the easier it becomes for her to just sit behind terrain shooting her Es (from complete safety) until one inevitable hits. And i don´t get why it has to last so long it´s so dumb. so you get zoning on top of your cc on top of your extra dmg on top of your cd-refund on top of your stupid ass range. Add to that that it´s practically impossible for her to fall behind no matter how bad she performs, since her base damage is so absurd, and it´s no surprise that no one can stand her and i haven´t even mentioned how rng can win you games with her W.

she pretty much combines the most toxic aspects of two roles. The safety of a poke mage with the burst pattern of an assassin.

ISOzHellDec 31, 20171 votes

She is super easy to beat.

Reaper SorakaDec 31, 20171 votes

I almost think they should remove the concept of mana and just use cooldowns at this point. I thought they had a value before of how much mana spent to how much damage it could deal or something. At this point that's just feels like fantasy.

Edit: Maybe turn Mana into Arcane Power, and just have it give a multiplier to abilities that can scale from it.

DanzibeDec 31, 20171 votes

After a point yeah Mana becomes completely arbitrary in the game, i think around lvl 8 depending on items.