Ranged item for melees

Físt·Jan 7, 2019·1 votes·1,732 views

Been thinking about this a lot lately. How come there is no item (that is melee exclusive like tiamat items) who's active is to grant ranged auto attacks for X seconds (maybe even change the attack speed to a fixed value like 1.5?) Just a thought :D

EDIT: a lot of people misunderstand my concept and thats my fault cuz i didnt add a few stuff i forgot about

Does not carry on-hit effects from either other items or abilities (Udyr E, Zed passive, etc)
It is an ACTIVE, which means it has a long cooldown, and a certain time for it to work
Animation wise: idk, but im guessing some sort of runaans type projectile. the auto animation is still the same but it is extended

For the Rioters who may see this: Was this concept ever an option in the dev circle?

18 Comments

SuicidePlankJan 7, 20193 votes

Because it would be stupidly broken?

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

How exactly?

OleandervineJan 7, 20192 votes

For starters, it would shut off the Hydra weapons, and secondly, giving assassins like Zed, Talon, Akali, and Evelynn the option to consistently auto you from a range would just make them oppressive. That's not even factoring in how it can be abused by melee supports to add more poke to bot lane - someone like Taric would simply use it to trigger his passive constantly without being in danger range, and the same goes for Leona, Pyke, and Braum. Then there's the issue of Master Yi and Yasuo, would simply abuse the item once you started running, and no one wants Yasuo to be able to just crit you from afar just by activating an item. The abuse potential for such an item is just astronomical, because melee champions have their melee range built into their design as a weakness and a power control lever.

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

Remember its an active that doesnt enhance autos but just gives them range (also no on-hit).

OleandervineJan 7, 20191 votes

You never specified that in your post, because those are some pretty big contingencies. You simply said "an active that increases range." That doesn't immediately tell us that there are no on-hits.

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

Edited after seeing a lot of comments haha

OleandervineJan 7, 20191 votes

It can still make the bot lane a little too pokey, but without applying on-hits, that makes the item much more palatable, though it would step on the niche of Titanic Hydra a little bit, since it adds a damage cone that effective increases melee's range. It all depends on the build path and how long the range is.

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

The item works on its own so building other items shouldn't make it OP, but i get what ur aiming at

Pals Before GalsJan 7, 20193 votes

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How exactly?

looks at camille's ranged true dmg looks at akali's ranged passive proc looks at darius guaranteed one stack of bleed looks at characters with AA stuns which allows them to effectively have a point-and-click stun looks at every melee with tiamat to do splash dmg at a distance

PoskeJan 7, 20191 votes

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How exactly?

There is RFC in order to get full value of RFC you have to be ranged

There is no ranged only clause on RFC because none is stupid enough to buy it on a melee

**Also Ranged champions scale better with items since they do stuff from range **

HammermancerJan 7, 20191 votes

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There is no ranged only clause on RFC because none is stupid enough to buy it on a melee

MonkeyKing :D

PoskeJan 7, 20191 votes

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:D

He still doesnt care about attackspeed as a stat He still doesnt care about crit as a stat Ms stat is negligable

So eh would only build if to 100 dmg shock from a bit higher range. Yeah might aswell build sheen then

TargonJan 7, 20193 votes

Another reason why is probably because most melee champions do not have a ranged auto attack animation. For example, what would it look like for Darius to have a 500 range auto attack?

That said, Rapidfire Cannon can be purchased on melee champions, but the bonus range on the empowered auto attack is rather small.

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

Imagine runaans kinda? the auto animation is still melee on the air but it launches a dart (for example) and it does not carry over on-hit effects.

Noor SakataJan 7, 20191 votes

No thanks I don't wanna be point-click stunned by Udyr or point clicked hard poke from Ekko passive or Got Stacked by Darius for free

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

I meant range kinda like Runaans, not range enhancer

OleandervineJan 7, 20191 votes

Runaan's applies on hit effects from the champions who are using them. This is why champions like Kai'Sa, Varus, and Kalista can use it to stack their passive abilities to crowds.

FístJan 7, 20191 votes

again, this wont apply on hit. otherwise auto attack stuns like udyr e would make it broken