Can we have a "training" or "serious" normal game mode?

Privileged Jew·Mar 31, 2016·2 votes·599 views

I'm so tired of seeing Blitzcrank jungle, Heimer support, etc in my normal matches. I'm trying to prepare for ranked on certain champions and I have to constantly deal with teammates and opponents doing strange things that you would never see in ranked outside of trolling.

May we please have a separate mode that, when you queue as a specific role, it gives you a preset selection of champions to choose from? So that if I queued for support, I could only choose from the champions that actually support in the meta? I hate having to queue for a ranked match just to get a group of players who are serious enough to at least avoid troll picks/experimental builds.

Queue times be damned, I would be willing to wait a few extra minutes if it meant not having to deal with this crap.

10 Comments

blkh1Mar 31, 20163 votes

Remember, off meta today is the new meta tomorrow. People play off meta all the time in ranked too, sometimes they don't mean to troll either.

Monkey With GunsMar 31, 20162 votes

Unfortunately this would split the community. I see your point in wanting to practice a champ, but with over 120k mastery on Thresh and 110k on Blitz, putting the time in is all that you can do. If you're to stubborn for even that, find a buddy that's willing to practice, search for someone on here (you obviously know how to post things), or take them into a solo lane to practice farming and mechanics. Aye maybe one day knowing how to fight a certain midlaner as vayne could save your life or even win your series. Happy Climbing :)

Privileged JewMar 31, 20161 votes

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Unfortunately this would split the community. I see your point in wanting to practice a champ, but with over 120k mastery on Thresh and 110k on Blitz, putting the time in is all that you can do. If you're to stubborn for even that, find a buddy that's willing to practice, search for someone on here (you obviously know how to post things), or take them into a solo lane to practice farming and mechanics. Aye maybe one day knowing how to fight a certain midlaner as vayne could save your life or even win your series. Happy Climbing :)

I understand your perspective. I just feel that a lot of players would be willing to wait longer for their games if they knew they weren't going to get something off-meta.

I boop thingsMar 31, 20162 votes

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Privileged JewMar 31, 20162 votes

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If Riot did this it would completely alienate people doing as you mentioned. Just because you don't like it doesn't justify it has to be done. This is a game and as such there is no thing as a "Meta". People who break the meta in this game are possibly some of the best people you can meet. They're not afraid of going against the community when they do it. While granted breaking meta is not always a good idea. There is no harm in actually trying something.

Take me for example, I am a Zilean MAIN to the absolute degree. I can take this old man into any lane I so please (except jungle but I am working on that, or adc for that matter). I have done a lot of meta breaking in the past and it works out well for me. It allows me to experiment and prove my skill by making something work.

As for your "ranked" practice. Your only hope of getting some real practice is doing scrims with other ranked players in a custom. You all basically play as if it was ranked and try your best. If you cannot do that, then I am sorry you're trapped in SIlver. I am Bronze 5 and I don't let that bother me.

First of all, tell me that the 2-11 Heimer support whose turrets stole my 2 kills is one of the best players I can encounter in this game.

Secondly, I am not asking to remove normals; merely add a second mode which limits players to meta-only champions for their selected roles.

Thirdly, I am not "stuck" in silver. I haven't even tried to progress recently even though I probably could, because I want to learn how to ADC (the one role I have always avoided mastering) to the point that I can take it into ranked with confidence.

I boop thingsMar 31, 20162 votes

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Privileged JewMar 31, 20161 votes

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Such is the life of being in your ELO. People who break meta are in fact some of the best people. You're just like every typical low elo player. OMG MY PRECIOUS PRECIOUS KILLS! Dude I was in a game that lasted 50 minutes, the enemy Tristana was AFK for 40 minutes. In the 10 minutes she was back. My team ignored my prompts to keep her from farming. With only 1 kill and 158 farm she immediately proceeded to whoop on our asses. We could have won that game but alas no one listens. In lower ELO's everyone is out for themselves. They don't know the meaning of teamwork. You can try all you want, you may get that rare one off in a million team. But here in Bronze and Silver thats next to non-existent.

Kills do not make you strong. Your team is what makes you strong. Failure to work with your team results in your own failure. In lower ELO's you either learn to kiss ass or you lose. Especially if you intend to be ADC you literally have no choice but to suck in your pride. That support Heimer may have taken 2 kills, but how much farm did you get during that game? Learn to keep yourself calm and simply accept the things people do.

A good quote "Anger gives motivation without purpose" Which is very true. You got angry that people break meta in ranked. Which motivated you to make this post. This post serves no purpose but your own.

I love how you completely redirect the fact that Heimer's mechanics make him a bad support, and that a support taking two kills from an ADC during a successful engage actually hurts the team by allocating the majority of the gold earned to where it is less effective.

I don't care that you think power farming is the end-all to bad support comps, or stolen (yes, stolen, as in, the turret autoattacked them at 50hp before I could) kills. This is still a negative experience for anyone seeking to actually learn how their champion synergizes with actual supports, like Thresh, Blitzcrank, or Leona.

"Kills do not make you strong. Your team is what makes you strong." This is literally the dumbest thing you've said yet. Both allow you to win - kills make you stronger because they place you at a distinct gold advantage, and good teams (which includes sensible picks, and builds) also allow you to win.

You make so many assumptions about me based on your own preconceptions about low-elo players. "Low-elo players are always like this or that" is fairly closed minded on your part.

LauchmelderMar 31, 20162 votes

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First of all, tell me that the 2-11 Heimer support whose turrets stole my 2 kills is one of the best players I can encounter in this game.

Secondly, I am not asking to remove normals; merely add a second mode which limits players to meta-only champions for their selected roles.

Thirdly, I am not "stuck" in silver. I haven't even tried to progress recently even though I probably could, because I want to learn how to ADC (the one role I have always avoided mastering) to the point that I can take it into ranked with confidence.

Do I have to check what Level/league you are or am I assuming it right? There is no such thing as "kill steal" in this game.

BravohMar 31, 20161 votes

All you have to do is find a club or a team with the same goals that you have stated above, and all of your problems will go away.

DrehirthMar 31, 20161 votes

People still do off meta stuff even in ranked? If i'm trying something new or returning to the game after a break, queue for a normal, and get either really bad teammates/off meta stuff I just turn it into a "let's practice that worst case scenario for ranked"

like earlier where I'm trying to make sure i got my basic mechanics back before going back into ranked after a couple weeks break.

I got a support who just fed hardcore because they didn't realize the enemy botlane did gromp and was level 2, then they kept going in after that and basically handed them the lane. I didn't say anything to them, I just csed and waited patiently for mistakes, and watch the 4/1 ez turn into a 4/6 ez. I made sure to spam mastery emote and "?" every time and made them hard rage by the end of the game.

also silver will be an inconsistent hell hole, but if you just focus on you, and getting better you will just climb as you get better, so for the most part you only really need to practice 1 or 2 games with a new character in normals and better off just playing ranked if you're trying to improve