???- The unknown. (This is a new champion idea + plz help me make some reasonable base stats)

Pixelfish123·Dec 10, 2018·2 votes·1,551 views

Base stats influenced by Mr Voidling Some abilities have been updated due to Mr Voidling's suggestions. ???- The unknown **Ranged character and tanky?

Passive-Copycat After witnessing someone cast a basic ability ??? is able to copy that ability to one of ???'s ability slots (except for R) . and allows them to use that ability for 60 seconds, replacing their normal ability. After the 60 seconds, the ability will return to normal.

Q- Protective Cells-Cooldown 12/11/10/9/8 seconds-40/45/50/55/60 mana Passive-Gain 4 armor and magic resist every time an ability is copied to this slot. This passive effect is only available when there are no abilities copied to this slot. Active-Remove all crowd control and become immune to cc for 1 second. This also grants ??? a shield that is equal to 40/55/70/85/100(10% max HP) for 3.5/4/4.5/5/5.5 sec

W- Transforming Cells -Cooldown 6/5/4/3/2 seconds- 25/30/35/40/45 mana ??? can consume 5/4.5/4/3.5/3% of their max HP to gain 10/15/20/25/30 (+10%AD)(+15% AP) bonus AD and AP for 4 seconds. This ability can stack up to three times

E-Deteriorate-Cooldown 12/10.5/9/7.5/6 seconds- 50/55/60/65/70 mana ??? fires a beam that pierces enemies (can only hit three enemies max) dealing 30/50/70/90/110(+40% AD)(+65%AP) damage and deteriorates their armor and magic resist by 20/22/24/26/28% for 2 seconds.

R-True form-Cooldown 90/75/60 seconds- 0 mana Casting this allows ??? to ponder about their true identity. Every second they ponder, ??? wil gain one stack of Identity. At 6 stacks, ??? will finally have a hypothesis for their true form, allowing ??? to change into any champion besides ???, taking on all their abilities and passive. After 12 seconds, ??? realizes that that champion was not their true form and returns back to their unknown self, starting a cooldown on their ability to ponder. Because ??? wants to find their true self, ??? cannot transform into a champion they have already transformed into in the next 5 minutes.*

*If at some point you do get through all the champions somehow, then that means their true form isn’t in the game yet...

HP|575+86 H5|6.5+0.75 MP|340+40 MP5|8+0.7 AD|54+3.5 AS|0.62+2.8 AR|30+4 MR|32.1+1.5 MS|330 RG|170

8 Comments

Mr VoidlingDec 10, 20181 votes

I literally have a champion concept with the same basic passive(idea-wise anyway) I posted like 2 days ago :
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/cIJMXA9c-celestial-champion-omri-the-wonderful Fine with similar abilities, towards all my concepts, but if one is too close then some recognition is nice. Including exact copies, feel free if I'm credited. Sorry, had a similar thing happen when I posted a concept that included a "lag" type debuff.

I can give a review on the abilities though, if you'd like. I'm great with numbers and balancing.

Pixelfish123Dec 10, 20181 votes

Sorry I didn’t read your post about your champion concept but I guess I will now
Feel free to review the abilities! (It would be appreciated)

Mr VoidlingDec 10, 20181 votes

Okay, so here goes.

Passive: you should probably make the copied ability stated as costing no resource or a set amount of mana, since this is a mana champ and certain abilities use energy or some other resource. Clarify that any ability copied may be used. Explain whether or not the passive can be applied to all basic abilities at once or not. So basically whether or not you'll ever be able to use his normal abilities in lane.

Q: seems fine, given a 60 time window between copies your max bonus would be around 112... which is a little high, unless passive only applies to 1 ability slot at a time, then it's perfectly reasonable at around 40 bonus mr and ar. Shield is fine.

W: you might want to add a max percent? 30 (+10%AD)(+15% AP) does NOT = 90+30%/45%, but is directly stated as = 90+(75%) AD + AP. At 1000 AP(for full ap build) this would give you 1,840 total Ability power. This is insane, especially for only costing 9% of your health. Remember 45% CDR makes it a 1.1 second cooldown for 3 stacks. I would rework it into a 3/2.75/2.5/2.25/2 second cooldown(to utilize stacking pre-rank 5) and lower the bonus to 8/12/16/20/24+(6% AD +6% AP) This gives him 16+24%(2)/24+24%(2)/48+24-36%(2-3)/60+36%(3)/72+36%(3). It's essentially another Rabadon at this point.

OR, Change it to having separate effects like such: W- Transforming Cells -Cooldown 3/2.75/2.5/2.25/2 seconds- 25/30/35/40/45 mana ??? can consume 5/4.5/4/3.5/3% of their max HP to gain 8/12/16/20/24+(12% AD) bonus AD and 8/12/16/20/24+(+12% AP) bonus AP for 4 seconds. This ability can stack up to 3 times. Make sure it has a cap for special things like URF. As 9 stacks(0.4s cd) would be a terrifying 216+108% or 270+(225%) with the original stats.

E: Not too bad, it seems relatively balanced with low base damage and good scaling. Armor + Magic Resist shred is honestly not too bad, as you may have your W replaced while using this. Only real base kit damaging ability as well, so nothing too strong.

R: This one is kinda a problem. First off: only 9 possible champions = 9 uses = possibility of about 12 minutes of having an ultimate with cdr counted in and then a useless slot. You can put a cooldown on champions he has turned into, like a "Wait... was that really not my true form?". CD would be 5 minutes. Include their entire kit, shorten the ponder time, and make it last for only 30 seconds, giving you enough time to team fight and possibly still run out of R. Or, disallow R and make it more like this: R-True form-Cooldown 120/100/80 seconds- 0 mana Casting this allows ??? to ponder about their true identity. Every second they ponder, ??? wil gain one stack of Identity. At 10 stacks, ??? will finally have a hypothesis for their true form, allowing ??? to change into any other champion, taking on all their basic abilities and passive and consuming all stacks of Identity. After 20 seconds, ??? realizes that that champion was not their true form and returns back to their unknown self, starting a cooldown on their ability to ponder. Because ??? wants to find their true self, ??? must wait 4 minutes before transforming into the same champion again. Either way the main problem with R is that it makes his gameplay not really HIM but another champion instead. This is why my champion was done the specific way he was(making the passive potentially good and bad, and also having a complete kit himself). It's a fun idea to become another champion for a bit, but it doesn't really give you a feeling of being good at YOUR champion. Hence why I recommend shortening the time he is spent being a different champion.

Base stats should be around this:

HP|600+86 H5|6.5+0.75 MP|340+40 MP5|8+0.7 AD|58+3.5 AS|0.66+2.8 AR|30+4 MR|32.1+1.5 MS|340 RG|175

Pixelfish123Dec 10, 20181 votes

Thanks for the feedback!

ChikakuDec 11, 20181 votes

Are you sure you're going to give them this much health with that kind of AD and AS + MS. Friendly reminder that even Irelia only has 335 MS :') And that HP is really high, especially with the scaling of it.

[galio-happy]

Pixelfish123Jan 15, 20191 votes

Hmm ok ill change it up a bit sorry haven't been on for a while

Pixelfish123Dec 10, 20181 votes

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???- The unknown **Ranged character and tanky? I’m imagining they would like a white blob but also like aurelion sol so like… Zac and Aurelion Sol Idk about base stats I’m really trash at making them you guys can help me with them if you want ** Passive-Copycat After witnessing someone cast a basic ability ??? is able to copy that ability to one of ???'s ability slots (except for R) . and allows them to use that ability for 60 seconds, replacing their normal ability. After the 60 seconds, the ability will return to normal.

Q- Protective Globs-Cooldown 12/11/10/9/8 seconds-40/45/50/55/60 mana Passive-Gain 4 armor and magic resist every time an ability is copied to this slot. This passive effect is only available when there are no abilities copied to this slot. Active-Remove all crowd control and become immune to cc for 1 second. This also grants ??? a shield that is equal to 40/55/70/85/100(10% max HP) for 3.5/4/4.5/5/5.5 sec

W- Transforming Cells -Cooldown 6/5/4/3/2 seconds- 25/30/35/40/45 mana ??? can consume 5/4.5/4/3.5/3% of their max HP to gain 10/15/20/25/30 (+10%AD)(+15% AP) bonus AD and AP for 4 seconds. This ability can stack.

E-Deteriorate-Cooldown 12/10.5/9/7.5/6 seconds- 50/55/60/65/70 mana ??? fires a beam that pierces enemies (can only hit three enemies max) dealing 30/50/70/90/110(+40% AD)(+65%AP) damage and deteriorates their armor and magic resist by 20/22/24/26/28% for 2 seconds.

R-True form-Cooldown 120/100/80 seconds- 0 mana Casting this allows ??? to ponder about their true identity. Every second they ponder, ??? wil gain one stack of Identity. At 15 stacks, ??? will finally have a hypothesis for their true form, allowing ??? to change into any champion besides ???, taking on all their abilities and passive and consuming all stacks of Identity. After 60 seconds, ??? realizes that that champion was not their true form and returns back to their unknown self, starting a cooldown on their ability to ponder. Because ??? wants to find their true self, ??? cannot transform into a champion they have already transformed into.*

*If at some point you do get through all the champions somehow, then that means their true form isnt in the game yet...

ChikakuDec 11, 20181 votes

I feel like this would be a similar design to Zac considering the Protective Globs ability. But I don't think that, unless you can make it work, his E Deteriorate is thematically correct. What I suggest before creating a kit is slapping an identity on that bad boy, give him a backstory, a trivia, lets us know who he is and what he has gone through, new abilities and ideas will surface almost instantly I assure you :)

[galio-happy]