SIVIR - W REWORK CONCEPT

Angry Chihuahua·8/7/2016, 9:22:12 PM·2 votes·506 views

Hey guys! Id like to start this discussion by mentioning the reasons why Sivir is played a lot in LoL competitions (LCS/LCK), high elo, pro players and so on...

  1. Her ult, perfect for engages and disengages, good for moving faster to objectives and team fighting;
  2. Her mobility, granted by her passive and ult;
  3. Her E, perfect for laning phase, where a Thresh hook can make the difference between a lost or a won lane + it gives you mana;
  4. Her damage in duels, from her Q that deals more damage on single targets and the W auto-attack animation cancel;
  5. Last but not least, her DAMAGE IN TEAM FIGHTS granted by her W, that bounces to nearby enemies and can critically strike (the reason of this discussion), and her Q that deals area of effect damage. In general, she is the full package adc that, unlike Lucian (i hate Luc and Jhin btw), needs a lot more intelligence in managing her spells in tf.

Now, lets talk about the 5th point. I think that her W is a little bit too much... If you do aprox 250 damage using an attack enhanced with W to all the secondary targets, that means you can deal 750 damage to a whole minion wave or bunch of champions using all the enhanced attacks. This is already a lot. Now imagine that damage doubled. This is just too much. This would mean that you can halve the enemy adc without even touching it.

In this case, i came with the idea of reworking her W. The target of this rework is making the Q her main spell in tf. So, here it is... W - Ricochet Sivir's next 3 basic attacks will bounce to nearby targets, dealing reduced damage to secondary targets. Every single bouncing attack will mark the affected enemies with 1 mark. Once a target has 3 marks on it, it will suffer Grievous Wounds for a certain time (Soraka haters will agree). The marks can be detonated by Q. That means that Q will deal bonus damage to targets affected by marks depending on the number of marks (max 3). SHE CANT CRITICALLY STRIKE WHILE W ANYMORE!

This change would make Sivir A LOT more based on her Q and skill-shot. Also, this would keep her LCS success. I think that the rest of her kit is perfect and it would go super well with this idea of w.

So, i hope you'll enjoy reading all this stuff XD. I wrote like an hour and a half so make sure to leave a like. Thank you :)

1 Comments

Guyy Fieri8/8/2016, 12:16:46 AM1 votes

Idk. I don't disagree that her W is really the bread and butter (since she was never played at the start of season 6 in LCS and then she gets the buff allowing W to crit then she's pick/ban in every region). However, that's kind of Sivir's thing. She's the premier team fighting ADC (other than maybe Miss Fortune by that requires the wombo team fight). Sivir can exist in any team fight comp because of her damage to multiple targets. While she is ok in pick comps, I don't think she's as good. If I have a Lucian Thresh bit lane and were a pick comp, all Lucian has to do to follow up on a hook is E in, allowing him to be better in pick comps because of that constant mobility. Sivir's mobility is dependent on already being in fights or engaging with her ult. While you can use the ult to pick off one person that really isn't the optimal strategy.

I am honestly not sure what I think. Tbh most Sivir players (myself included) have a specific pattern worked out balancing when to use our Q and it would kind of align with what you describe I just feel like it's actually a fairly tough skill shot to hit late game on the targets you really want and the whole point of Sivir is to waveclear until you want to fight and if she has to be in range for her Q mid to late game she will be in range of their engage and risk being engaged on.

Sorry the drawn out response just kind of thinking out loud here.