I mean his Q and W work with this, but not a ton. His E is nothing about a chemist, nor is his passive. His ult doesn't feel like the fantasy a mad chemist might pull off, its just stat buffs you barely can see visually. I think it would be cool to get a plague champ or someone who feels like Viktor but with chemistry.
Will Win War5 votesRiot is not planning on reworking him any time soon, but What if he gets his own chemical laboratory int he shop, where he could mix stuff up and change how his R works?
Arakadia2 votesThat'd be cool!
Doofs3 votesAyy 3 year Singed main here, and I completely agree. The whole mad chemist part falls into his (uncanon) lore. I do agree we need a Zaun champion that could pull off the chemist look better, or atleast a actually good VU. (None of that lazy retexturing shit. )
I actually fiddled with a few fun concepts based off the Mad Scientist skin line, where I infused elements of Plague doctors into both Singed and Ziggs, mostly because I was cosplaying Plauge Knight at the time. I guess the new Singed skin already did that though.
Actually thinking about it, an alchemy champion would be really cool as a support. Their kit can have a lot of utility through their brews, passive gold income, and DPS and or burst damage from chemical bombs. Their kit can work a lot like Rumble's heat and work as gas pressure, the less you use abilities the more pressure builds up, super charging the next spell. Holy shit I think we struck gold. Pun intended.
Arakadia1 votesI started to create a concept and originally posted this to see if people would be interested and for the discussion. He is supposed to have "Doc. Ock" arms on his back kinda which would shoot out acids and his chemicals. I mixed some plague doctor in the kit too, to differentiate him from Singed. I'm not sure I like the arteficial limbs, but their his current weapon.
This kit is WIP, so I can't actually say what role he is. I kinda want him to be a mage, kinda an ADC, and kinda a jungler. It looks like he's a ranged immobile jungler thats good at hit and running and wants to build AD attack speed items. Sometimes it says Chem is his name, but thats just a nickname/placeholder for chemist.
Passive: To be created
Q: Combustive Chemical/Corrosive Enzyme: Chem changes the substance used for his basic attacks. Each applies a stack of the substance for 4.5 seconds, which when mixed with the other substance causes a chemical reaction to occur. The same target cannot cause a chemicle reaction to occur within 15 seconds, however targets that were affected nearby can still start their own chemical reaction.
Unique Passive: "Eureka!": Upon successfully starting a chemical reaction, Chem gains a burst of movement speed.m
Combustive Chemical: Combustive Chemical attacks deal 10 magic damage on hit and apply a stack of Combustive Chemical. At 3-5 stacks, applying Corrosive Enzyme will consume the current stacks on to cause the target to take a large amount of physical damage based on the amount of stacks.
Corrosive Enzyme: Corrosive Enzyme attacks slows enemies and attacks faster against enemies who have not been hit by Corrosive Enzyme for 7 seconds. At 3 stacks of Corrosive Enzyme, Chem can apply a stack of Combustive Chemicle to cause an extreme acidic breakdown. The original target, and all nearby targets, are slowed and an armor shred is applied for 2.65 seconds. All nearby targets are also applied a stack of Corrosive Enzyme.
W: Outbreak: Chem takes cover and stealths for 3.75 seconds after a .5 second delay. For 4.25 seconds, Chem can reactivate this ability to send toxic fluids from him to the enemy champion. If the enemy leaves Chem's sight, the fluids will disappear. If the fluids reach the enemy, they're Infected. Upon stealthing after the .5 second delay, a global taunt is played to warn enemies.
Infected: Enemies who are infected are damaged every second. They also acquire blisters. This damage does not enter them in combat. If an enemy champion that is Infected dies or is the target of a chemical reaction, the Infection is removed but their blisters pop, dealing damage to the target and nearby enemies are damaged while also becoming Infected. This Infection can be cured in the following ways:
Healing the health threshold that appears over an Infected Target through natural regeneration, healing abilities, life steal, etc. Recalling successfully Blisters popping (Note, abilities that heal are only half as effective to targets with the Infection. Targets also gain % grievous wounds which will increase in strength based on the targets life steal.)
E: Mutate: All enemies that have Combustive Chemical, Corrosive Enzyme stacks, or the Infection within 950 units of Chem have their toxin mutate. Any stacks of Combustive Chemical or Corrosive Enzyme are doubled and for the next 4 seconds if any of these enemies' blisters pop, the pop will do double damage and still Infect nearby targets.
R: Gaseous Mirage: Chem releases a large silver, smoky, foggy, cloud that drifts across the rift until reaching the end. The cloud deals no damage however enemies cannot see into the cloud. Enemies who enter the cloud can see all units inside the cloud, but cannot see anything (including from ally vision) outside the cloud. The cloud acts like fog of war. The cloud will move slower if an ally is not inside.
Tell me what you think. I could incorperate your pressure passive sense I have no current passive and it would give him some damage which he lacks.
Doofs1 votesGod dammit i had this whole thing typed out and i accidentally refreshed. fuck me anyway tldr cause im not typing all of my shit out again. I think the global warning on the w is a little too much, maybe a screen tint in a radius of them would work better. Plus i like the idea of their kit, and its really fucking unique compared to every other champion, just its so over loaded that it would be impossible to balance, and even harder when new items are added in the game. Anyway i made this whole really cool character design sheet, and my phone, usb, and scanner are being asses, so ill just draw it digitally really quick. But yeah this is how i imagined my character would look.
I based them heavily off singed, JSRF (cause spray paint=gas) and elements of zaun culture and skeletons. the cylinders are supposed to expand when realising pressure, and her hands are heavily wrapped in bandages and soaked in chemicals, they light them on fire for extra auto burn and shit like that. I imagined them as a slow jungler with tons of burst, but most of their sustain coming through their cc and gold through their passive, which involves a something kinda like kindreds mark hunting down certain creatures to get a huge gold bonus. Their slow base speed is covered up by high mobility dashes when using their pressure in a spell. Im tired dont expect me to say anything fancy or grammatically correct, ill talk more about them later though and send you the boards post when i probably make it on them. they look really cool. ANYWAY HERES A SHITTY RUSHED DOODLE. Ill probably talk to you when im more alive. bah sorry im just not in a good mood. Oh yeah I forgot they totally have neon rollerblades but im too lazy to draw them. hah. anyway here, they look something like this http://prntscr.com/bhe52p
Arakadia1 votesLol that's awesome!
I hate when I press backspace and go back a page only to have everything deleted. It's hard to reroute everything.
MrXonte1 votesyour ideas sound very interesting! will make a concept with some of these if its ok with you guys
Arakadia1 votesGo ahead! You can use from mine atleast, but you should make sure with the guy above.
Doofs1 votesOh yeah I'm perfectly fine with that, I'm more alive right now so I can talk grammatically correct lmao. Yeah go ahead, I'll probably make a post on mine later, although the more I'm thinking about the champion, they'll probably work better as a Vi skin. lmao.
love league1 votesnaw fam that's mundo.
Arakadia1 votesIts kinda mundo and Singed. Neither though, pull off the mad chemist fantasy.
love league3 votesTo me...
Viktor embodies the mad inventor, because his entire kit really is chaotic. It's about what ifs. What if they stay in your stun zone. What if they get in range for your powered up auto. What if your death ray lands, and what if they stay in the storm.
Mundo doesn't show any really MAD SCIENTIST things, but he does show some sacrifice in his kit, and a crazy personality.
Singed is a troll... But he does have chemistry in his kit. Slowing chemicals, poison chemicals, and a chemical to make him strong... The toss is kinda weird though to be honest.
Arakadia1 votesHe does have some chemistry in his kit, but it would be cool to see a champion who fits the "mad chemist" or plague doctor vibe. I mean Singed and Mundo are kinda just crazy brutes (not so much singed, but very much so mundo) who's bodies have been damaged and upgraded through chemicals.
He feels more like the Mad Chemists' apprentice who went rouge and used everything on his own body.
love league1 votesSo perhaps like a Mad Chemist who uses their experiments on others instead of using the experiments in their self. Like maybe having a ground skillshot (the champion throws a flask of chemicals at an area) that if it lands on ally minions can mutate them in some way to push the lane faster and become tankier... Or maybe he throws a flask on allies to heal them, make them tankier, attack faster, regenerate faster idk...
Arakadia1 votesYup! You got it!
EndlessSorcerer1 votesThe toss is kinda weird though to be honest.
Sometimes, your experimental subjects are uncooperative and you have to force the issue.
Tamur1 votesActually his E is the result of his experiments on himself and is designed to combo with W
Ult - this I would change slightly give more visual effects and give it an use on ally buff and an use on enemy debuff
Arakadia1 votesHis E doesn't feel like a mad chemist. It feels like a brute who uses drugs. I know its supposed to combo with W.
I feel like we could get a cooler mad scientists.
Tamur1 votesIt feels like a brute who uses drugs.
Then so is Dr. Jekyll who uses a potion similar to Singed's Insanity Potion. The only difference is Dr. Jekyll's potion transforms him into Mr. Hyde.
Fling is not only use to combo with Q and W it gives him away to separate a tanks/supports from the more important target the carries/mages or vice versa
Arakadia1 votesThis post isn't about gameplay really.
Tamur1 votesThis post isn't about gameplay really.
Actually it is. It's about how his gameplay matches his theme and lore
Arakadia1 votesWhat you don't understand is that it's not about how he combo's or anything. It's about his theme and all.
Tamur1 votesHis E and his Passive also have to do with chemistry due to fact that used himself as a test subject. Through the combining of the different chemicals he gave himself. He a chemist that can now throw monsterous size machines with ease and is more durable through the Mana that flows through his vains. They are achievements
Arakadia1 votesdue to fact that used himself as a test subject.
more durable through the Mana that flows through his vains.
Exactly! But he doesn't fill the "Plague Doctor" or "Mad Chemist" fantasy because he is a hulking brute. He feels more like the chemists' apprentice who went rogue and tried everything on his own body.
Tamur1 votesWell sometimes it's hard to willing and unwilling test subjects. And not knowing how long the mixture will last and how long it take to find more of the components he chose to test it on himself. It doesn't make him a brute that does drugs.
Even if he did do drugs he would still be chemist since he makes his own.
Arakadia1 votesHe is a brute. He is a massive, muscular, mutated human.
He does not fit the "Plague Doctor" or "Mad Chemist" fantasy imho. I want someone like Ziggs and Viktor combined maybe.
Tamur1 votesWhen I think Massive brute I think
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Arakadia1 votesWelp, I'm just saying I think that Singed doesn't fill the "Plague doctor" or "mad chemist" feel as much as another champ could, or him with a rework.
Our opinions and views kinda just push away most of my other thoughts, but I don't feel like he hits the spot.
Tamur1 votesWhat is your view on Dr. Jekyll?
Arakadia1 votesI don't know much about him except his potion that turns him into Mr. Hyde. Singed however doesn't fit the fantasy imho.
Tamur1 votesWell he is a scientist who experimented on himself.
Look I do think he could use a re-work. But I don't think he needs a Sion level re-work
Maybe make Fling like Twisted Fate's Pick a Card where you can pick between 3 potions one allowing him keep his current but with a different animation.
stealthfox941 votesI agree but I doubt Singed will get a rework.