Draven, No Damage 2016 Concept

Draven oo7·Dec 10, 2016·22 votes·2,568 views

320 movement speed 29 bonus dmg ad on Q at lvl 1 with 61 ad does 50-70 damage at 0.64 attack speed at level 1 rapid decay in movement/attack speed nerf constantly being degraded in every battle as adc Empowered Axe autos disappearing due to a 2 year bug that has not been fixed. constant feeding due to lack of bug being ix and gamebreaking, and losing massive damage Q axes going in complete opposite movement path no matter how many videos have been posted on issue me playing the game like a zombie now until someone cares about this champion

only play draven :/

This is not a rant or rage, just personal story

32 Comments

YoungFarmerDec 10, 20169 votes

Wait the axes going in opposite directions wasnt intended? Wow every time I played draven I just thought riot was trying to make it harder for me AH.

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20161 votes

oh yeah imagine being draven bot, vayne ults, you run doing the Axe jungle Kiting

lalalalalallalala

Draven Axe time!

throws axe at vayne while running back to turret

instead.... it goes even further pass vayne, and lands in bush, instead of richtochet back to you as it was suppose too, now you lost 1 axe.

throw second axe as intended, it actually does com back, you catch it, you see the spinning animation. but it disappears.

Vayne now condemns u into your own turret, she kills you, calls you bad adc, noob, spams mastery emote, team reports you for feeding, you get chat ban bc u rage about it every game like a moron. now you question your very existence as a Draven Main.

Not rant or rage, just personal story

Shaco my BFFDec 11, 20161 votes

Personally, I think it's all about timing. When you click your movement command, is very crucial. I play Draven VERY little, but from times I played him, I don't remember such bug.

10TicklerDec 10, 20165 votes

Still crits for 1k+ damage come 2 items

SchàdenfreudeDec 10, 20167 votes

I think you are talking about Vayne

10TicklerDec 10, 20161 votes

Someone didn't read the patch notes!

SchàdenfreudeDec 10, 20165 votes

And someone else doesn't know that Draven Q can't crit.

He doesn't do 1k+ damage with one auto.

Troll for TrumpDec 10, 20163 votes

I'm pretty sure Draven's Q can crit.

That's how you get the 1k autos.

But for the most part, the Tyler1 build has been the most popular, until now, where people are being more traditional again.

Needs IE and a crit item to do the 1k.

Faceroll TacticsDec 10, 20164 votes

Dravens Q is... interesting. The bonus damage on it doesn't crit, but the actually auto can. (Think stattik shiv crit on a normal auto.)

Kosm1KDec 11, 20161 votes

I thought they made it so shiv crits only when the basic attack crits? Idon't remember tho, it's been so many patches.

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20162 votes

its an empowered auto, meaning like quinn Passive, it doesnt crit, just gives bonus damage the crit is actually from the AA not the Q so ex: 100 bonus Q+ 345 AA or 400AA CRIT = 500 total AA/400 of that AA crit-100 of that AA was bonus damage, th 100 Q always hit (like Nasus Q) but the other AA is normal damage and can be deducted from Armor/shields/ and health.

Kosm1KDec 12, 20161 votes

They're currently changing his Q on pbe. It does a flat amount of damage per rank in it, and scales with bonus AD

Faceroll TacticsDec 11, 20161 votes

To be honest, they've changed their mind on how that proc works so many times ive lost count too. Although I'm sure at one point it worked like that.

HawkefireDec 10, 20163 votes

Draven's Q hasn't been able to crit for a very long time (if ever). His 1k autos are because of the scalings on his Q stacked with a standard basic attack crit.

Some math to show how it works: For the average final build that Draven uses he ends up with 373.55 AD (http://champion.gg/champion/Draven), just to make things a bit cleaner, I'll round that to 370. 370 x 2.5 = 925 Q Damage: .85 x 370 = 314.5 Total Damage With a Crit: 925 + 314.5 = 1239.5 (Contrast this with nearly any other ADC, and you will find that their crit is going to be about 925 or less, assuming they didn't use something that empowers their basic attack) Just because the bonus damage from his Q doesn't crit, doesn't mean that his autos don't hurt like a truck when it does.

VesemirDec 10, 20163 votes

Draven Q can crit. It counts as basic attack.

10TicklerDec 10, 20165 votes

It's an onhit, have your +1 back. Salty Draven main downvoting anyone who points out how hard draven can actually hit

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20162 votes

I actually never downvoted anyone lol, till this day hehe xd

VesemirDec 11, 20161 votes

I mean there is nothing wrong with him hitting a crit. He is supposed to do tremendous amount of damage if he catches his axes. Thats the point of Draven.

SchàdenfreudeDec 10, 20168 votes

His auto can crit, his bonus damage can't.

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20162 votes

Perfect Response

10TicklerDec 10, 20162 votes

Spinning Axe is an on-hit effect. The triggering attack will apply on-hit effects and can Critical strike icon critically strike as normal. As with most on-hit physical damage the bonus damage from Spinning Axe will apply life steal. Critical strikes will not interact with Spinning Axe's bonus damage.

Which reads, in layman's terms:

Draven's Spinning Axe is an On-Hit Damage amplifier based on his Base damage. The Bonus from Spinning Axe cannot crit, however the Basic Attack still Can, and will be amplified by Infinity Edge.

1k+ Crits are EASY with Draven. Hell, I got myself a 1500 once

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20161 votes

with armor pen before Leth change, I gotten 1900 crit on Lux, and she was Piss LOL

dominusxDec 10, 20161 votes

still takes some skill unlike vayne

SaiannaDec 10, 20165 votes

And yet Draven can still erase anyone just as fast as fat kid with diabetes eats a cookie.

MetalrichdogDec 10, 20163 votes

D3 (last season) Draven main and I know alot of these pains more than most people who play Draven casually. I almost always go what the fuck when I watch my axes dissappear after each consecutive autoattack because I usually notice it as the first axe doesn't come back. Q axes going in the complete opposite direction isn't something I've ever problem with (the initial movement command just post-throw decides). Last points in terms of damage values, it's just that Draven can get shut down in the first few levels very well because he doesn't really have good burst, and most ADCs who play smart won't allow you to come close to duel early. He does, however, have scary natural scaling into level 9 so long as he's not far behind (Ahead is all the scarier) (330 bonus movement actually)*

But please, don't continue to play like a zombie on Draven D:

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20161 votes

I will try hehe xd, i did the 320 movement speed a joke, bc when you have to catch an axe in the wrong direction, you go off your AA path.

GerAvosDec 10, 20163 votes

Axes disappear? Like what, when you are blinded by teemo? I don't know what bug you talking about.

Draven oo7Dec 11, 20161 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9IYFrhrkk 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAN8-dQ6-wI 2015 watch n weep

MetalrichdogDec 11, 20161 votes

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Axes disappear? Like what, when you are blinded by teemo? I don't know what bug you talking about.

It's rare but think of it this way: you're playing Draven; you have your spinning axes ready and in use; you auto attack something; the axe doesn't register additional damage nor does it bounce and come back (If you had 2 spinning axes, that next one you throw will also dissappear into nothing, and will continue until you lose all of your spinning axes)

Darth StepVaderDec 10, 20161 votes

He is getting some semi-positive changes next patch. Let them Vaynes cry: http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#balance

Rank BatteryDec 10, 20161 votes

Then learn to play more champions lmao

TaoShamashDec 11, 20161 votes

They fucked Draven hard when they reworked his passive. His dueling and trading potencial dropped to 0. You just snowball or unistall the game with that champion