Take a good Look what the Patch has done for Lee Sin, and Done to Adc(Draven is my #1 Concern)

Draven oo7·Dec 2, 2016·19 votes·1,951 views

**Also to be CLEAR IN CAPS, I AM NOT MAD NOR CONDONING MY TEAM IN ANY FASHION, IT IS NOT THERE FAULT MY DAMAGE IS LOW, IT IS MY FAULT THAT I DID NOT surender SOONER. **

From lvl 2, I was camped bot-forever..... the lee sin ganks, and zed ganks pushed to nexus, i was living in nexus almost half the game.

Lee sin dominated both Jungles his and ours.

I could not fathom even the slight-lest form of defense or aggresion to push him back, the karma shields synergy was too strong, but the flaming and verbal abuse FROM MY OWN TEAM expecting me to pull a Master Yi come back with 100 cs, and 120 ad, and 0.93 attack speed.

Also to be CLEAR IN CAPS, I AM NOT MAD NOR CONDONING MY TEAM IN ANY FASHION, IT IS NOT THERE FAULT MY DAMAGE IS LOW, IT IS MY FAULT THAT I DID NOT surreder SOONER.

28 Comments

agbudarDec 2, 20166 votes

yea lee sin the champion that will steamroll your entire team if he lands a Q atm all because riot thought it was a smart idea to give him a 2+ lvl lead on lvl 1 laners.

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20161 votes

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yea lee sin the champion that will steamroll your entire team if he lands a Q atm all because riot thought it was a smart idea to give him a 2+ lvl lead on lvl 1 laners.

I was trying to flash but I got Steamedrolled kick into street fighter 2 Sagat.

TormentulaDec 2, 20161 votes

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yea lee sin the champion that will steamroll your entire team if he lands a Q atm all because riot thought it was a smart idea to give him a 2+ lvl lead on lvl 1 laners.

That's everything right now, even evelynn and elise can pull off level 3s after krugs. This is the one time I've seen a nocturne gank before 3 minutes, didn't know that was possible. Krugs in general need nerfed and they said they're fixing them soon.

For lee; its level 3 krugs + COTC + his buff on his shield from a few patches ago + the attack animation thing or whatever (Did this really affect him?) + a plant that gives vision to the blind man making invades easier + its assassin meta so tank lee is really hard to kill + idk what else but there's surely something else + and for good measure there is probably another thing after that...

Lee is just overtuned right now, but that's been lee since release. I do feel he's much easier and more forgiving when mistakes are made due to COTC giving a huge shield as long as you press R.

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20162 votes

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That's everything right now, even evelynn and elise can pull off level 3s after krugs. This is the one time I've seen a nocturne gank before 3 minutes, didn't know that was possible. Krugs in general need nerfed and they said they're fixing them soon.

For lee; its level 3 krugs + COTC + his buff on his shield from a few patches ago + the attack animation thing or whatever (Did this really affect him?) + a plant that gives vision to the blind man making invades easier + its assassin meta so tank lee is really hard to kill + idk what else but there's surely something else + and for good measure there is probably another thing after that...

Lee is just overtuned right now, but that's been lee since release. I do feel he's much easier and more forgiving when mistakes are made due to COTC giving a huge shield as long as you press R.

Yes... I agree with you.................................................. ..................................................................................... ...............................................................................hehe xd

TwinkieProDec 2, 20161 votes

How is that only relevant to Lee? Any jungler can get that early level 3 lead.

agbudarDec 3, 20163 votes

because lee is infamous for solo carrying for 4 seasons because jungle would give him 1 lvl lead. I don't forget crap like that and its worse now.

riot ain't learning from their mistakes either they make them worse

current jungle is such a snowball fest atm its not even funny. especially if you let champions like LeeSin Nidalee Graves Twitch get 2+ lvls on laners i could list a whole roster of champs that become problematic this way but lee sin is the easiest to execute all of this.

Draven oo7Dec 3, 20161 votes

It's my fault too,I should have warded and played Turret hug better and cs, even though all he had to do was Ward hop, and kick me to vayne n zed...the horror, almost unblockable each time.

BasedJarvan420Dec 2, 20164 votes

LMAO manamune on draven. Git good scrub.

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20162 votes

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LMAO manamune on draven. Git good scrub.

hehe xd I was crying so I bought Tear of the Goddess item 3070 upvoted+1

ShadòwDec 2, 20162 votes

lol u feeder

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20167 votes

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lol u feeder

hehe xd

Lû BûDec 2, 20161 votes

Daammmmnnnn 18 deaths gg

Sahn UzalDec 2, 20161 votes

Camped by Lee or not, Cull start is... Interesting to say the least.

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20161 votes

hehe xd, was following League of Legends Lore, and Cull is Draven's mini axe(notice the passive ties with him too)

EedatDec 2, 20161 votes

I'm confused. Is this a thread about Lee Sin or just a general rant? Serious question.

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20161 votes

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I'm confused. Is this a thread about Lee Sin or just a general rant? Serious question.

Lee Sin

DarkRitualDec 2, 20161 votes

You need Sterak's to survive Lee or the Assassins.

DragonSheaDec 2, 20161 votes

Then what about Maw? is it viable if you going against a diana or LB?

Draven oo7Dec 2, 20161 votes

I take QSS always, mercuial Scimtar, solves MR and gives me quic CC cleanse, I edge is starting to look pointless, on Draven, so is Crit tbh, might gold Armor pen(LW) BT, QSS and Merc boots tbh

DarkRitualDec 3, 20161 votes

Maw is a great option against AP Assassins and other Burst mages.

SaiannaDec 3, 20161 votes

Maw is viable against everyone.

Not even for its shield, but stats...

Supreme Senpai69Dec 3, 20161 votes

Hey so Lee Sin is strong but you can't use this game as evidence to support that. My Ashe ADC went 1/8/1, does that make the enemy team strong? No, it just makes Ashe... well, my average ADC I'm stuck supporting :l

SaiannaDec 3, 20161 votes

this game lasted 33 minutes.

You were ganked all the time for at least.. what... 20?

And you haven't bought even 1 item that could help you survive? Maybe tank-item?

I tell that to everyone:

If you die all the time, build tank. It's better to be alive and semi-helpfull, than dead all the time.

In conclusion:

your 20 S games, or mastery with draven are worthless, if you aren't flexible at all.

Btw have you even noticed there are 4 ADs on enemy team? Simple Randuin could mess them up.

Also your teammates are derpy AF too.

AD braum and Tresh items..

Draven oo7Dec 3, 20161 votes

hehe xd, braum is so cancer, but when he went jungle, I lost it #Tilted.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Xela SyabDec 3, 20161 votes

What are you building there? You got Muramana and Rapidfire Cannon on Draven, shoulda got IE and Shiv.

Draven oo7Dec 3, 20161 votes

crit is not good on him right now, very expensive, and with the removal of armor pen, very useless for those once 1.5k crits, now my highest crit with 80-100% crit is only 700-890 damage, better off doing flat damage, 900-1k with BT and Lastwhisper

BadmagickDec 3, 20161 votes

You didn't build any items to help you stay alive. Your thresh was probably useless as he has all the cc in the world to help you. Your jungler was obviously useless as it was a braum and probably was just trying to keep up in farm while lee camped. It looks like your mid was Talon, and he was your teams best asset, if he wanted to, he could've roamed and helped but probably didn't do that a whole lot, or was late to the party and cleaned up for the most part. I'm only a gold player, so I'm nothing special, but you are not even ranked so I think it's safe to assume this is a bronze level game. In that case, unfortunately, you can't really legitimately criticize anything as there were plenty of ways to deal with this situation, but no one on your team knew any of those things.

Also I'm curious when you bought the tear because the gold lead wasn't insurmountable until about 25 mins. That was probably a winnable game until the last 10 mins.

Draven oo7Dec 3, 20161 votes

zed n lee sin ganked bot in unison from level 2, 4, 5 ,6 , 8 ,9 ,10 so forth. talon came bot only twice to cleanup, mostly stayed mid, top not sure if they had teleport or not, but never came bot, enemy riven came bot and mid a'lot for snowball once lee sin had jungle dominance.

Braum was only jungle due to a resent Riot Hype message which provided the following jungle experience. thresh was more focus on taking my first 3 kills, then blaming me or claiming it was lag. I Fell behind,I surrender,

they did not want to, bronze game maybe as you stated, unr-anked because i do not have enoug money to get 16 champions, but also un-ranked for in fear of this happening to me ,so waiting to que with a team.