Ap Black cleaver?

YuGiHo·Nov 30, 2015·1 votes·443 views

Only reason i see we dont already have this is because and a whole bunch of others would abuse it. but if its good on everyone then why not, right?

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Doctor JarvisNov 30, 20151 votes

item 3001 is sorta the best we got, and honestly, with how combo oriented most AP champs are, I think its the best we deserve.

7fIrvwfP3iNov 30, 20151 votes

Do you guys not know about Wit's End? item 3091 Steal 5 MR on hit, stacks five times, and deals 40 magic damage bonus on hit. Also Attack Speed :D

YuGiHoNov 30, 20151 votes

wits end shreds a flat amount of mr on hit and grants atk speed, black cleaver lowers armor by a present when you deal ay source of physical damage being from skills or autos.

the 2 items are completely different as wits end only works on people who want atk speed and grants no ability power on its own. how could you see this item on a ryze or a cass or even an ahri?

SSmotzerNov 30, 20151 votes

item 3091 [zombie-brand-clap]

ModThe DjinnNov 30, 20151 votes

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Only reason i see we dont already have this is because and a whole bunch of others would abuse it. but if its good on everyone then why not, right?

The problem with such an item conceptually is that MR doesn't naturally scale. There's some defense in natural armor scaling against Black Cleaver even if you don't buy any armor: no such luxury exists for AP items.

It's also tougher to calculate the value you'd need. Do you make it a small amount on every spell, and thus useful only to Karthus / Cass / Ryze / other spam mages? If you make it something more mages want it becomes useless, since most mages will have used their spells. You COULD charge it on auto-attacks instead of spells, but that's contrary to most mage play patterns.

I'm just not sure there is a healthy medium here that makes the item useful on a decent range of mages.