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New Champ: Udyr's Sis?

Gibberwatt··3 votes·576 views

_____, The Second Vessel

We all know Udyr, right? This is his sister.

Lore: When Udyr was born, the Spirit Walkers assumed that he was the continuation of the Shamanic Line. However, when Udyr finally accepted his role as a vessel for the spirits, after his battle with Lissandra, he left the tribe for Ionia, with Lee Sin. A few years later, Udyr's sister was born. She too showed the signs. However, instead of the Monkey, the Bear, the Tiger, the Turtle, and the Pheonix, the spirits that chose to accompany _____ were the Hawk, the Gazelle, the Viper, and the Hornet. Also, instead of leaving the Spirit Walkers, _____ stayed, and became a great leader of the Walkers. She learned to care for and protect nature with all her soul, and destroyed anyone who encroached upon it. She never forgave her brother for leaving the Walkers, though, and wishes that he would return to help guard the freijlord. Also, she harbors a deep-seated hatred for Ionians, and Lee Sin especially, for taking her brother away.

Passive - Rage of the Spirits - - - the spirits of the jungle creatures join her, and help crush her enemies For every large Jungle Monster/siege minion she kills, her AD/AP increases by .02%. It increases by .05% for Monsters from the enemy Jungle

Q - Eyes of the Hawk - - - This fires a skillshot that has extra crit chance, and grants vision of the target for 3 seconds Cd: 6/5/4/3/2 seconds Damage: 20/30/40/50/60 (100% AD) Crit Chance: 45/50/55/60/65% Cost: 10/15/20/25/30 mana

W - Horns of the Gazelle - - - This fires a skillshot that grants movement speed for 1.5 seconds: 30 if it hits a minon/monster, and 50 if it hits a champion Cd: 6/5/4/3/2 seconds Damage: 20/30/40/50/60 (100% AD) Cost: 10/15/20/25/30 mana

E - Viper's Coil - - - This fires a skillshot that roots the target Cd: 8/7/6/5/4 seconds Damage: 20/30/40/50/60 (100% AD) Root Duration: 1/1.5/2/2/2 seconds Cost: 10/15/20/25/30 mana

R - Hornet's Nest - - - Fires off ten Bees, that spread out around her, and remain stationary while stinging any champion in their vicinity. Cd: 120/100/80 seconds Damage per sting: 50 (100% AD)(30% AP) Duration: 5/8/12 seconds Cost: 100 mana

What do you all think? P.S. I couldn't think of a name. I suck at that. Feel free to make suggestions (Vaesen is currently an option)

5 Comments

Gibberwatt1 votes

I love all these down votes I'm getting. Please, if you don't like her, give me an idea on how to fix her. If you like her, help me make her better. Thank you

Atinizer1 votes

Okay, so the way I see it most sibling champion concepts rely too much on the other champion for lore and skills, but keep in mind when you're making a concept that a lot of people will assume a lot of things and down-vote the post without reading it. Do you seen Draven and Darius openly broadcasting they're siblings? No, that's an off-handed thing so it's like: "Oh, okay that's cool." and they also have two entirely separate identities. The problem here is that I feel Vaesen (this is my name for her considering Udyr sounds like danish for beast so this is Creature in the same language) doesn't have a separate identity from Udyr due to them both being junglers but also her kit just makes me think of other champions.

Her passive is like Kindred's only insanely consistent, this brings up the problem of them both being junglers and having nigh the same passive. My recommendation is to come up with something different, maybe make it like Sona but instead of empowering her right-click it adds something to the next spell she casts? I feel that would fit better with the theme of her being in tune with the spirit animals and harnessing their power by balancing them.

Her Q is strange to me because it just feels like Quinn's old Q but with the crit chance, I like that each of the skills aren't the stance stuff like Udyr but I'm having troubles of seeing her persisting to harness their powers (Not until you change like Udyr but more like a normal buff with a timer.) Perhaps something like instead of the blind on the hit of it she gains "Hawk vision" which would allow her to see into bushes so she can keep aiming the rest of her shots, like the sharp eyes of a hawk enhancing her focus, heck this could be her effect if she has the passive I suggest but that's up to you.

Her W is perfectly fine to me but in my head all I can picture is Viktor's augmented Q which is honestly my fault. Maybe add a persisting thing like if she hits an enemy champion with it then she gains extra attack-speed on that target.

Her E is just Cassiopeia Q but harder to hit due to minions getting in the way. Something I see lacking in her kit is ganking potential since all you have is your W to close the gap which makes you rely a lot on chilling smite and limits your options for if you wanted wards with Tracker's knife or wanted more 1v1 dueling with skirmisher's saber. SO I'd recommend an entirely new skill: Alligator snap. This would send a spectral alligator in a line to chomp on an enemy, slowing them down and applying a bleed possibly. For a persistent effect....honestly I got nothing for this, sorry.

Her ultimate really bugs me because it feels like the new Hex-tech GLP item, considering I see them shooting out and the homing in. But what about creating giant bees that sting things around them kinda like Azir's sand soldiers but they follow what they aggro on and you're creating a lot in an area.

Overall she doesn't feel like her own champion and something I haven't touched on is how giving her 3 skill-shots really dampers her camp clearing abilities because she has to go one at a time with zero damage to anything else around what she is hitting.

Gibberwatt1 votes

This is exactly what I wanted. thank you for the input (I like vaesen).

My responses are:

about her passive being like kindred's, I admit that it is kind of like a consistent (but much weaker) versoin of the Hunt. However, your suggestion of turning it into a thing like Sona's sounds kind of circular to me. Because it is too much like one champions passive, we turn it into another champions passive. ???

About her Q: I like your opinion. I think I'll keep the crit chance, maybe weaken it a bit. However, I will ditch the blind, and instead grant her vision of the thing she hits. I like that.

About her E: You are very true. I realize her ganking is crap. I will change that. I'm not quite sure about the whole alligator thingy, but I will work with that.

about her ult: That seems like an interesting idea. Maybe like a ziggs minefield, but over a massive area, and they don't go away.

I don't think of her as a copy. I think she is definitely based around Udyr, but then, she is his sister, with the same kind of power. they are gonna be similar. I guess I could change her passive to include cannon Minions/champions, so she could lane too.

Thank you for your input!

Atinizer1 votes

about her passive being like kindred's, I admit that it is kind of like a consistent (but much weaker) versoin of the Hunt. However, your suggestion of turning it into a thing like Sona's sounds kind of circular to me. Because it is too much like one champions passive, we turn it into another champions passive. ???

Okay, the idea I was trying to go for here was empowering your next ability and not like Sona's that empowers your next right-click based on ability. What I was trying to say is: Cast Q, Cast E, cast W with extra effect. I meant to use Sona as a reference to how it would work. And this is your champion so take my new skill ideas as merely suggestions, after-all your idea not mine.

Gibberwatt1 votes

I see. I think I will leave her passive, cause I think it is pretty cool. Thanks anyway. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

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