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The Annie changes are cool, but we can go further.

Squarefighter·1/22/2015, 3:57:14 AM·10 votes·1,174 views

Annie's (small) changes on PBE look really cool to me, because they focus on Tibbers himself, rather than Annie. It's always seemed really strange to me that Annie's ult summons a fiery demon bear that emerges in a huge explosion... and then barely does anything afterwards. Obviously it's not useless, but usually the ult is used as a high damage AOE stun, with the demon bear as more of a side effect. So what if Annie's kit revolved around her summoning her bear and getting a lot of use out of him? The recent change, if you don't know, gives Tibbers her molten shield and a speed boost when she casts. But why not go further? What if Annie acted kind of like a tank as well as a mage? What if Tibbers was effected by all of Annie's abilities- off the top of my head I can think of E being just like it is now, W making him breath fire in a cone, mirroring what Annie just cast, and I don't know about Q. A buff to his aa's maybe? This is all just an idea, but I think if Tibbers became something people didn't just completely ignore once cast, Annie would act like a really unique tank: with Tibbers doing a ton of damage and being very hard to kill, but could be bypassed by finding and killing the squishier Annie.

Any thoughts?

18 Comments

Frost the Reaper1/22/2015, 4:13:07 AM4 votes

I love the Idea, Mostly because This makes a very Unique Tank. Although Its still kind of weak, It still is doable. I think most of all, Is that Annie should probably be able to walk farther away from tibbers than she currently can. Overall Though I love your idea, Also for the Q: maybe tibbers spits a fire ball, or sends out a small explosion of fire in an AoE around him?

FlameHalbrdOkido1/22/2015, 5:09:32 AM2 votes

1st I really like the idea of Annie using her abilities on Tibbers to augment him, great job on thinking of that concept .Ok I got it, Molten Shield could either heal or give a shield Tibbers if he has taken any damage, or increase his lifetime if he is at full health. Incinerate can buff his autos giving them increased damage, like the fire has empowered him, (I would stay away from having an AoE ability cause another AoE spell), and finally if Tibbers is targeted and hit by Disintegrate, fire will flare out in a circle around him (like a skillshot AoE spell). The 1st two augments that I mentioned were created to help Tibbers with his tankiness.

BitterBlotter1/22/2015, 9:05:22 PM2 votes

Nah

5G8Nri0B541/22/2015, 9:55:57 PM2 votes

It's a small step in the right direction, but I think Riot can do more to make Tibbers more relevant and Annie herself more than just "League's more generic burst mage"

RoyaiChaos1/22/2015, 11:30:36 AM1 votes

As much as I love the idea, it would mean that Annie would do less burst damage which is kind of her defining feature. It would change her identity to much and I'm sure many Annie mains would be against it. (Rito tried something similar with Zyra where her plants were buffed but the abilities themselves were nerfed and everyone was against it).

FlameHalbrdOkido1/23/2015, 12:11:33 AM1 votes

yaaaaassssss

Annie ADC1/23/2015, 5:23:02 AM1 votes

Unless her damage in her abilities were decreased, this would most likely make her OP.

It is a cool concept, but I do not really see it fitting Annie, mostly because she is a champion based around AoE-CC and burst. Removing damage to make her Tibbers cast abilities would remove the burst.

Though I know burst is not unique, unlike the idea you proposed. But I think they do not plan on changing Annie to be much further than what she is like at the moment.

DwarvenGiant1/23/2015, 4:37:44 PM1 votes

What about.. Every time she kills an enemy unit with her Q, Tibbers' next AA will do something.. Like, IDK, maybe making an AOE, Hydra/Tiamat-like effect? Maybe a slow with his next AA? Maybe, simply, more damage? Maybe something tanking-related? Hmm.. Actually, maybe it could be something like, every time she kills an enemy unit with her Q, Tibbers gains a stack, and at 3 stacks, next time Tibbers is hit by a champion/turret, he won't receive damage.. Or something like that. And then she can't stack the Q on Tibbers for X seconds. :P

There is a lot that could be done with the idea of synergy between Annie's Spells and Tibbers. :D