So I'm making a champion concept (auto attack guy)

im a moron·8/2/2017, 11:00:52 AM·1 votes·508 views

AYYY! waddup... welcome to v0.0 of this one fan champion I'm gonna take a crack at :U

basically, this guy will be partially made by the community, meaning I will take suggestions and bring them to version to the next verion CURRENT PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CREATION OF PLAGUE INQUISITOR

  • Me, just me

anyone who helps me make this champion I will give credit above ^^^

name and thematics, kinda so so... but I do have some things I would like to take the character in

  • Most likely an inquisitor kinda guy :U
  • Will either come from Noxus, Zaun (most likely), or be a darkin, though, Demacia is a possible choice to mix things up, though garen already has that "JUSTICE! IMMA BREAK YOUR FACE" kinda ordeal
  • Weapon will either be a whip, or some syringe gun doohicky
  • Gameplay wise, I imagined a sorta ADC kinda guy, who does a bit of mix damage (mostly AD, but some formidable magic damage, similar to Kayne blue form) a plague doctor Inquisitor kinda guy who uses a mix of debuffs and kiting (or engaging, I'll get into that later) by building up auto attacks and blasting enemies with certain spells that apply such debuffs, he's the type of ADCs who goes IN, or charges/chases the enemy, similar to vayne, he's also a hyper carry :u

Name: EHH... someone help me here Lore: Ehhhhhhhh, WIP but open to others, I can't think of anything

ABILITIES ayyy, my favorite part :U I'm using filler numbers here, so dont count on them being 100% accurate and yes, you can suggest replacement abilities

PASSIVE: Poisonous bolts each auto Auto attack guy does to an enemy champion applies an infinite stacking debuff called "Poisonous bolts" (Or hextech bolts, probably a better name), casting spells onto the enemy champion consumes all of these stacks, after the stacks are consumed, that enemy champion cannot gain anymore stacks for a brief period

Ability 1 (Possibly Q): Detonate bolts! (CDR fairly low, similar to Ezreal Q) Auto attack man throws out his detonator, which flies for a set distance and stopping at the first enemy hit, for the first half of the distance covered as the skill-shot flies, it will attempt to curve towards the nearest champion marked with POISONOUS BOLTS, when it reaches half way of its flying distance, it will proceed to go straight, enemies hit take a small burst of AD

enemies who are hit by this detonator are poisoned for % of the target's Max HP every .5 seconds up to 1+.5 for every stack of poisonous bolts applied to the enemy champion (magic damage). for the duration, the enemy is marked with true sight and Auto attack man gains movement speed towards them

(notes: intended this to be this guy's bread and butter damage ability, I'm not sure if this ability is a bit overloaded, I kinda added the true sight and MS towards the enemy to fit the theme of a character who chases down the enemy, I considered making the % hp damage missing, but seeing the fizz rework, I held back. though this ability seems unique to me since even though its a skill shot, it will curve towards the target, otherwise, a skillshot that poisons an enemy without doing anything else would kinda be boring |:U)

Ability 2 (Possibly w): Sick af slow! (roughly 7 seconds?) Auto attack man fires out a hextech, magical or whatever rope device, in a straight line, the champions hit takes a brief burst of physical damage before the rope pulls back, all champions still within the rope range take further damage and are slowed up to 30% + 5% for every stack of Bolts

(Notes: A kiting tool :U, given the nature of the passive, the player is given the decision to either do tons of damage to the enemy or slow them down a bit to either further chase them or run away to kite more. its like rengar with max ferocity stacks, either GTFO or Tons of damage)

Ability 3: Boom Boom grenade (Long cooldown, most likely 14) Auto attack man begins channelling for several seconds slowing himself in the process, increasing the size of BOOM BOOM grenade up to a cap (think the size from Reworked Urgot Q to 2/3rd the size of Anivia ult when first cast) and on released, AA man throws the grenade at targeted location, knocking enemies away from the location (think Maokai's Q but a skill shot doohicky, longer charge, the further they are knocked away)

this ability's cooldown is reduced by 1 second each stack of bolts on a single enemy champion hit by the blast (prioritizing the champion with the highest stacks)

(Note: simply another kiting tool, I ran out of ideas here, so I decided to add this weird Mini Gragas ult ability, which allows Auto attack man to displace enemy champions... theoretically spam able, but you need to sit and charge each one to make a more reliable knock up or back, it probably shows the fancy plays with this champ :U probably very versatile)

Possible Ult: Runnan's hurrican, but its an ult Upon cast, AA man gains a burst of movement speed and an attack speed steroid, and each time he auto attacks an enemy champion, he fires out two more bolts each separated by a .1 second delay (imagine this, Auto attack, Pew pew, auto attack, pew pew) towards two other near by enemies, prioritizing champions closest to Auto attack man, if there are no near by champions, the two bolts instead hit the champion he is auto attacking, this bolts deal a 10% attack damage ration, but apply all on hit effects, including stacks of bolts, on hit effects from his bolts hitting the champion he is auto attacking deal 50% reduced damage.

(Notes the other abilities kinda seemed a bit strong, so I decided to make an ability that compliments his other abilities xD, the ult I imagine would be the reason you pick this guy, with an actual Runnans, you can bolt all five enemy champions theoretically, which is why the ad ratios are so dahm low)

so uh... yeah... all I got so far :U (awkwardly leaves to check later)

3 Comments

LuaDotExe8/2/2017, 8:46:34 PM1 votes

I thought I was the only person that used that emoji, but then I realized we use them entirely differently :U

Anyways, onto the kit: Q and passive interaction is way too strong for something that builds up indefinitely. If this were released in the game, Vandiril would be making a video of auto attacking a champion and getting some ridiculous amount of stacks, and then hitting Q and making them unable to recall for some ten minutes. On top of this, the % max HP damage would be absolutely insane; if we had 10 stacks, that'd be 6 seconds. % HP every half second would be 12 ticks, and if the % was, say, 3%, that'd be 36% of their maximum health over 6 seconds. To do 100% of somebody's health (before resists, obviously), we divide 100 by 3 to get 33.3 ticks. We'll have to round that to 34 ticks to stay with whole numbers. If we halve that, that turns out to be 17 seconds, or the basic 1 plus the 16 seconds via stacks. Considering every stack gives us half a second, that'd be 32 stacks, and with Guinsoo, that's fairly easy. Of course, health regeneration is at play here, but the fact that you're going to be auto attacking them while it's ticking doesn't even matter, since you'll need less than 32 because of the damage your autos do. Additionally, that's not counting towards the probable damage you plan to tack onto your passive. That's only 11 auto attacks with Guinsoo's Rageblade to get that many stacks. Again, though, this is if we set the damage to 3% max HP per tick. You don't really have many numbers in. If we do the math for your W, that's 30% base plus 5% per stack. A 100% slow, the equivalent to a snare, would be 70% worth of stacks. Divide that by 5% and we get only 14 stacks. Again, Guinsoo's Rageblade. That's only five auto attacks. With a slow like that, I don't think you're going to need a knockback on your E, and since you're charging, you're not going to be able to auto. With your ultimate, we can throw Guinsoo's out the window if they're isolated, since you're effectively doubling the damage that on-hits do (16% current on-hit from BORK if all of them hit the target) and tripling the rate at which you generate your stacks on them, as well as doing 10% AD damage to that same target, making your auto attacks do what is essentially 20% more damage. Not to mention, as you mentioned, literally every other champion could just by Runaan's and it wouldn't seem very special for an ultimate anymore.

In regards to the KIT'S thematics: Passive is too close to Teemo's poison, and we already have a mixed damage carry: Corki. Both design spaces are occupied.

I'm going to be apologizing for being blunt on the third part: Thematically for the CHARACTER ITSELF, I have no clue what you want. Your kit should be built around the character, not the other way around, and you should have at least some form of idea of what you actually want besides a loose idea of "oh he's either this or that but he's going to be doing the same thing either way." A WHIP and a SYRINGE GUN are nothing alike in combat style. Additionally, Darkin represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse, from what we've seen: Rhaast represents Death, and Aatrox represents War. This leaves Famine and Conquest. Varus's bow is, theoretically, Darkin as well: since he uses blight, we can assume he's Famine-- which leaves Conquest for us, and this character does not fit that. We can scrap the idea of a Darkin. Noxians aren't about using poison or anything-- they're about big, unwieldy blades, from what I've seen. Every Noxian champion uses blades. A whip might fit, if we go that route, but I don't think it'd fit for a whip to apply poison, leaving us with your syringe gun. A Zaunite would be the best bet, although a Zaunite playing around poison is already taken. I also cannot see a Demacian using a whip or a syringe gun. An inquisitor seems like an odd choice to me, and doesn't really mesh with the kit at all. After all, there's nothing to do with investigation-- on top of this, it probably doesn't matter very much, but Vayne has an inquisitor skin, and when you say "inquisitor," like I just have three times in the same run-on sentence, it makes me think of that.

Edit: "Basically, this guy will be partially made by the community." If you have a Discord, or are okay with joining Discord, there is a C&C Discord chat which you can use to talk to us and get immediate feedback and ideas.