Would you say there room in the game for an "Anti-Yorick" type of champion?

Boatwhistle··2 votes·1,720 views

Edit: THIS IS NOT A POST TO COMPLIAN ABOUT YORICK, THIS IS A POST FOR A NEW CHAMPION/PLAYSTYLE CONCEPT, thankyou.

When I say "Anti-Yorick" I don't mean a champion to dominate him in lane, in fact I don't even mean a champion in top lane necessarily. I am referring to a champion whose kit is as adept to single handedly stopping a push as Yorick's kit is to pushing.

I was intrigued by the post of another's champion creation, the ult in particular. If i understand and remember correctly it was a "monolith" that you put on ally towers that lasted 30/40/50 seconds adding damage and resistances to the tower even remaining after the towers destruction. One could look at it as a very defensive pet summons, another aspect I dont believe exists in the game.

While I did enjoy the origional idea, after reading and during my physical therapy I pondered on changes to make this champion both more interesting and adept to being specifically an "anti-push" champion. A champion with a kit that exceled at getting to towers very fast and having a strictly defensive* 1v5ing kit to use when they got there thwarting the pushers efforts and allowing their team to take advantage of the enemies low map pressure.

The "monolith" could automatically behave as a tower as i believe the origional was intended to but via fufilling a passive connected to the champions abilities perahaps they could influence it to fire a single shot at an enemy within its range and then it goes back to behaving as a tower. A part of the ult there could be a "teleport" that only allows the champion to go to allied towers and immediatly place the monolith. Aside from a passive allowing the champion to minutely control the monolith the rest of the kit could be very adept to fast short range wave clear under the tower and keeping/getting enemies in range of his tower/ult so if enemies wish to scuffle with this champion they better be ready to commit or at least be sure the champion will mess up. In contrast however, the champion should be garbage as a pusher and contesting other objectives. The champion would be the last one you would ever want to dive or push a tower near but in every other regard you wouldn't have much to be concerned about. A big potentialy late game fall off... no more ally towers to ult so they become near useless.

Such a champion would be a strong counter to any other champion wanting to end the game as quickly as possible and they would strongly syngerize with champions that both need time to scale and most of their team members to facilitate their effectiveness. I know i said this champion would be an "anti-yorick" but they would likely be countered by such champions whose single handed pushing power is such a threat they would need to waste their ult on them rather then the majoirty of the enemy team with a rift herald or baron buff.

Point being this niche of a fast response tower defender against most such threats isnt really fulfilled or at least there no equal reverse counter parts to champions like yorick, illoai, ziggs, hiemerdinger, and so on as in back against their map pressure as strongly as they can create it.

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Moody P3 votes

anivia

Boatwhistle1 votes

She has low mobility and aside from her passive with an accompanying ally she is just as susceptible to tower diving champions as most others. I specifically stated a long distance mobility champion that would be totally self sufficient to 1v5 upon arrival after ulting an ally tower.

Also Mages with just the fast wave clear like Alivia's aren't usually punishing with force. Her enemies just sort of face plant them selves into her abilities. I mean for this champion to forcefully punish unabated pushes, pulling targets back in when they realized how big their mistake was. Also it wouldn't be as consistent, more one unbeatable obstruction every few minutes.

Alzon2 votes

But Yorick can’t 1v5 to take a tower. That’s Sion.

Boatwhistle1 votes

I don't mean to say the tower takers in the game are 1v5 champions. I am saying this particular champion could defend on a whole new level. You need to think that not only would this champion have a tower advantage but on top of that their entire kit would strongly synergize with the presence of a tower much like shen, thresh, or blitz crank only way more extensively and they are a squishy damage dealer. This defensive strength would be justified by a near dependence as the champion would be lacking in any other circumstance.

xDogMeatx1 votes

do you mean like a satellite dish champion where they dont exist specifically in the game but support to stop pushes through godly interventions or something. that persons only limit is the field vision in the game. he doesnt have omi vision.

Boatwhistle1 votes

Something like that, you know how illoai is? With her ult on the field and a few tentacles spawned she owns that spot and you will need your team or she must leave the zone or you must bait her ult. Imagine illoai only she cant be like that anywhere she wants, she must be at towers and that means she also happens to have a tower advantage. The way you would deal with this champion is force the ult out of them... now go somewhere else no problem. If you want to do a rift herald or baron then you gotta make sure you get the ult out of them or are ahead enough you don't need to all be on the same lane to get good results.

Such a champion should be stronger then pushing champions as this champion can only be useful responsively and doesn't contribute so much to winning as they contribute to not losing so soon... another way they would be the opposite of split pushers is they are very team dependent to win.

xDogMeatx1 votes

well theres also the trydemere issue with undying rage. where he can push how he pleases

Boatwhistle1 votes

Potential counters are a good thing, I wouldn't want the champion to be a one size fits all sur thing no matter what. Just want a champion that's best at particular job not already being done by a champion ultra well known for it.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Or maybe if they just removed the bug where his pets take half damage from AoE despite nothing in the game, on the official website, the wiki, or the spotlight saying they'er supposed to do that.

Boatwhistle1 votes

This post is not an intended complaint about Yorick, its an enthusiastic discussion for a new playstyle on a new champion should others want to. If you want to discuss your displeasure for Yorick in any way this is not the post for it and you should probably start a new one for that instead.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

{quoted}

This post is not an intended complaint about Yorick, its an enthusiastic discussion for a new playstyle on a new champion should others want to. If you want to discuss your pleasure for Yorick in any way this is not the post for it and you should probably start a new one for that instead.

Well, as part of it such a champion would need a way to deal with his pets that isn't considered AoE.

xDogMeatx1 votes

summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 to maiden and yorick will cry as he cant hear his ult music

Boatwhistle1 votes

Again this is not a post to complain about Yorick at all, in fact Yorick is only just relevant. I am regretting not making a more generalist description in the title like "Anti-Pusher".

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