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Why Not Have A Rioter Whose Job Is to Communicate Through the Boards?

Deep Terror Nami··13 votes·885 views

And that would be mostly all they do. Just go to meetings from other teams, learn what's going on, and talk to people on the forums.

Some players expect team leaders to stop what they're doing and come to the boards to explain the purpose behind what's going on (such as why X skin is being made and Y isn't, or the context of this buff and that nerf), but they don't have the time for that especially when the question has been asked and answered elsewhere a thousand times already.

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Daen3 votes

Relevant.

I completely agree. It's unreasonable to expect developers to simultaneously create things, develop communication plans, follow through with those plans, be available to the community constantly, etc. I think Player Relations is trying to help with this sort of idea, but it's definitely still struggling.

39041022DEL12 votes

Sam Walton, The person who started Wal-mart, a company worth trillions of dollars today. He was one hell of a busy person but he put more time into talking to people every WEEK. Riot is known to be a very selfish company so their is a very low chance that this could be possible.

Drunk Rummate2 votes

It's expensive to hire people for a pretty trivial job like that. Especially because they would have to have a ton of knowledge on every topic to do their job properly.

Riot is already pretty active with the community compared to most companies and to be frank, I'd rather see Ghostcrawler and Meddler and Ironstylus on here talking about stuff they're working on, rather than see "Person X" on here as a mediator.

Daen2 votes

It's expensive to hire people for a pretty trivial job like that

trivial

If it were a trivial job, the entire disciplines of Public Relations, Community Management, and Journalism would basically be worthless. Almost every single large game development company in the United States has Community Managers or a department that specifically focuses on community involvement and communication; they wouldn't do so unless it increased the value of their product or brand.

I'd rather see Ghostcrawler and Meddler and Ironstylus on here talking about stuff they're working on, rather than see "Person X" on here as a mediator.

This is actually kind of an amusing example to me, and I'll explain why. In a lot of these discussions, Ghostcrawler/Meddler/Ironstylus aren't even the people working directly on a given project. They are, functionally speaking, representatives of their given discipline, just like a Community Manager would be.


Here's the thing. Bad community management functions like what you mentioned, where the Community Managers are just mediators or act as a barrier between the playerbase and the developers. Good community management, on the other hand, is a system where the CMs are directly involved in certain projects as part of the team and are experts at helping to organize and disperse information.

As an example, let's say Riot HurgleBurgle is the Community Manager for the Boards. His job is to participate in meetings and design decisions that define the platform, advocating for players along the way and making sure everyone is informed to the best of his ability. He might also even host forum events or utilize other engagement techniques to ensure players feel involved in the process, maybe even write up things like AMA summaries or changelogs.

The key here is that everything I just mentioned is completely missing from the vast majority of interaction and can't feasibly be done by the developers simultaneously. This idea that Community Managers are just middlemen is really flawed, there is so much potential that Riot seems to be intentionally avoiding.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

A lot of what you say is really reasonable, but my point (which I failed to express) was that the Boards are actually a very small representative of Riot's community. Most of the community gets the majority of their news from Riot's home webpage and the client, facebook, or other social media. That specifically is why I referred to a Boards representative/CM as a more trivial position. It would have to extend far beyond the scope of posting on the boards, which would in turn lead to about the same amount of interaction as we see here weekly.

Roaranor1 votes

Isn't that the job of the QA Analysts (like Katey)? Or am I mistaken?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

That's more like a hobby of a few Rioters.

Daen2 votes

As far as I'm aware, the job of QA analysts is more along the lines of being part of the development process start to finish, offering feedback and helping to resolve issues along the way.

Communicating with the community is generally either a Community Manager role or some other role with Community in the title, but at Riot that department is almost entirely focused on outreach rather than involvement.

africa unite1 votes

why pay to have someone make the game better when we are greedy and can not pay someone to pay attentroin to what the players want and make more money>?

SuperJediNinja1 votes

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