Rant about the Hashinshin ban

Kaisa is Hot·10/27/2018, 12:57:16 PM·7 votes·4,655 views

So I'm not really trying to defend Hashinshin in this rant but hear me out.

So as you all know Hashinshin was banned some days ago for going 0/14 on Viktor, now I can understand how some people would consider this inting, yes he should have just not tried to fight Riven all those times, yes he could have just sat in base and not farmed, cause that's pretty much the only way he wasn't going to die, yes maybe he could have roamed instead and helped other lanes out possibly, but then that leaves top wide open.

Now to my real question on why I made this rant,

Why is it that he gets instantly banned for ONE, I REPEAT ONE game that he did REALLY bad in, and yet we have some people that int feed literally 20 games in a row that are 2/19 in literally every game and they haven't seen a ban since Y2K, this just goes to show me that as long as you have a kill or so that counts as "trying" so they don't get banned ever.

I enjoy watching Hashinshin from time to time, he brings interesting perspective to the game and how some champs can be in an overwhelming state for very long periods of time and have nothing done to them just because the balance team doesn't actually play the game or know what they're doing.

All I would like to see is some consistency in Riots thought process when it comes to handing out bans for literally 1 offense.

Sure Hashinshin might have fed a lot of kills but in no way do I think he honestly did it with the intent of "Oh I'm just going to feed this Riven" I think he was tilted and even I sometimes don't have the best games, example I remember not too long ago going like 5/16 just because I WANTED to win and my team was not acting so I decided to act and try to engage fights cause no one else was, then when I died while they watched me and didn't even try, they proceed to call you a feeder, maybe you took some farm from their lane after they got a kill and you tried to tax, leading them to flame you cause they don't know how the game works in terms of ganks, so they intentionally don't help and make you feed so they can blame and report you after game. Shit like this happens to me at least once a month. There are very little people like that on this game but we think stuff like this always happens to us because they burn memories in our head of some of the worst league games we've had.

All I'm saying is I don't think ANYONE should get a ban for 1 time offense in terms of feeding, cause it can happen really easy. You either have the choice of sitting behind tower and getting dove anyway and risk getting reported for feeding, or sit in base cause if you leave you'll die and get called an inter, and risk getting reported for afk'ing. It's a trap on either end of the stick.

29 Comments

HonorRibbon10/27/2018, 1:06:37 PM5 votes

Na, he was outright inting. He didn't say he was inting, but that is what he was doing. He clearly gave up during the game and didn't care how much he fed. Some of those plays he made were straight up suicide and even bronze/silvers would know better.... he is mid diamond. People need to stop taking his side. Yes, he didn't say he was inting, correct, he didn't give ANY indication in chat or directly on stream that he was feeding.. but if you watch his gameplay... actually look at the 19 deaths... it is obvious that he was just dying over and over again on purpose because he was in a shit mood.

Jo0o10/27/2018, 1:15:18 PM5 votes

There's no inconsistency in Riot's thought process. Inting is and has always been a 14-day ban for a first offense. The issue is that some players manage to fly under the radar and escape punishment, but they don't invalidate the punishments of the players that DO intentionally feed and DO get caught.

Hash didn't get banned for a bad game, he got banned for intentionally feeding.

EvilDustMan10/27/2018, 1:17:35 PM3 votes

Riot doesn't ban for inting unless they are 99% sure that it was, in fact, intentional.

Jamaree10/27/2018, 1:03:50 PM2 votes

0/19, and because that wasn't the first time he had scores like that, though I do agree he shouldn't be banned.

Stars Shaper10/27/2018, 1:19:02 PM2 votes

I've been instantly 14-days-banned for a 2/14 match where after going 2/4 and 2 surrender attempts (team mates where at 0/7 at the very best) and I went dieing directly in the Baron pit since I didn't want to actually feed the enemy team.

I've took it as it was, my only concern being how long it has been before I was considered "Redeemed" after a 1 game tilt. There is no way a player that knows what he is doing (like the Hash guy is) can go 0/19/0 and still trying to defend himself like he wasn't inting.

Quinzley10/27/2018, 3:57:08 PM1 votes

The IFS is just bad. Nothing more to it. If Hashinshin got more cs or dealt more dmg he could potentially avoid the IFS.

Noor Sakata10/27/2018, 6:49:34 PM1 votes

I heard he got unbanned ? anyway Riot didn't ban him , the Automatic system banned him , because of his score , not about reports

Reixis10/28/2018, 10:46:11 AM1 votes

Dont forget that their public stance has been that inting to further your goals as a team is completely allowed, (see inting sion, proxy singed), but winning in a way your team doesnt agree with is a perma ban (see support singed who had an 80% winrate with a cheese.)

Relaxed Art10/30/2018, 1:49:08 AM1 votes

Autofilled top laners in lower elo than hashinshin would have been able to know to stand at tower. 0/19 isn’t acceptable even if you are facing adrianaries.