You'll see with clearer eyes what actually happened and why your teammates did what they did.
Sometimes you'll realize they actually aren't as brainless as you made them out to be in the heat of the moment.
ModUlanopo24 votesThis is a really good idea.
GreatWhiteNorth16 votesThis should be a tip on the loading screen.
TheSingularity14 votesBetter yet.
Treat that beautiful player with your name as one of them. And brutally tear apart every single thing you perceive they do wrong.
macromite2 votesThis is actually a bad idea.
Votable Jester10 votesThis is one of the ways people improve.
macromite1 votesYou need confidence to truly be good, when you analize all of your plays in negative light you lose this required confidence.
500000000000000010 votesYou still need to know what you did wrong. Maybe not so much "brutally tear apart," but "carefully examine" is important.
Mig893 votesIt's one of the best ways to improve. You don't tear yourself down to improve but by catching mistakes you might not realize you made in real time, you can attempt to avoid them in the future.
macromite1 votesshort term improval, long term it means a lot more harm than good, because when you hit that hump, where avoiding mistakes stop pushing you forward, you end up in a worse state than before.
Anidan5 votesI don't know.. I've improved a lot on DotA2 in the past by watching replays where I screwed up. As a result, my game sense has improved pretty substantially due to that time spent watching why everything happened the way it did. It may not help you too much mechanically, but mechanics are a practice thing and watching a replay isn't for that anyway: but it will absolutely help your game sense. After so many replays you can pick up on the general timings of the game and heroes involved, you can start noticing patterns to let you attempt to predict general movement even when the enemy isn't visible on a ward, and that is a very powerful thing to pick up on. You can get that from just playing a lot, but it's faster going if you watch replays and observe general gameplay from more than one perspective in the same conditions.
macromite1 votespracticing gamesense has nothing to do with berating self mistakes.
and in a game like league, you need to have full faith in every member of your team, including yourself.
Anidan2 votesThe goal isn't to berate, it's to understand. You're misinterpreting. You absolutely have to acknowledge your mistakes to improve upon them, or else they manifest themselves into long-term habits and then it's even harder to improve after a certain point when those habits are outright holding you back. If I was learning piano and I learned improper technique it would absolutely become a problem for harder pieces, so you need to crack down on any time you make that mistake and correct it until you're not making that mistake anymore. As you climb in League with bad habits, they are going to hold you back. Your confidence is irrelevant at that point because there is a limit that your abilities will let you go, and you need to know what to improve.
I have some faith in my teammates and myself, and berating yourself for the purpose of improvement is not usually a situation in which people lose faith in themselves unless they've stopped making progress, at which point the next stop is not supposed to be a loss of faith in yourself, it's supposed to be to analyze why you're no longer progressing. If you can't do that, that's your problem, not the fault of the process.
Mig893 votesSo you are saying you can improve by eliminating your mistakes but you end up in a worse spot because youll stop building off of that improvement???? You contradict yourself my friend.
TheSingularity1 votesWhen you analyse your plays in a negative light you pick out all the mistakes you made, as opposed to many trying to find a way to pit the blame on someone else.
EG you failed to kill in a 1v1 but also didn't die: See's jungler doing blue and thinks "he shoulda assumed I would go in, stopped doing blue and ran up to help secure it, thus it's his fault he got away" Not that the player may have missed spells, miss clicked and AA'd a minion, overestimated his damage or didn't take enemy summoners into account.
There is far more to gain from critically analysing your mistakes than analysing the "shit dogs" so you can find a way to place the loss on them.
When I started doing it I shot up from bronze to less bronze (silver). A small hop but a hop that required improvement in some regard. And I couldn't improve if I didn't acknowledge what I was doing wrong. So instead of sugar coating it and going "it wasn't that bad" it was "you missed this piss easy point blank skillshot, auto attacked a minion then cancelled 3 autos due to constantly switching between clicking on the enemy champ and minions. The enemy then flashed away, I flash under them but forget about the tower that is now shooting me during all the commotion and I die".
macromite1 votesWhen you analyse your plays in a negative light you pick out all the mistakes you made, as opposed to many trying to find a way to pit the blame on someone else.
It is very easy to mislabel things and end up locking certain plays mentally. this ends up causing more problems, you need to be flexible in league.
EG you failed to kill in a 1v1 but also didn't die: See's jungler doing blue and thinks "he shoulda assumed I would go in, stopped doing blue and ran up to help secure it, thus it's his fault he got away" Not that the player may have missed spells, miss clicked and AA'd a minion, overestimated his damage or didn't take enemy summoners into account.
Watching that over again won't help this player, they had plenty of very clear mistakes made in a row that led to that falure, if they can't catch it on the first runthrough or on the grayscreen, they aren't going to catch it.
There is far more to gain from critically analysing your mistakes than analysing the "shit dogs" so you can find a way to place the loss on them.
I am not saying that this is untrue.
When I started doing it I shot up from bronze to less bronze (silver). A small hop but a hop that required improvement in some regard. And I couldn't improve if I didn't acknowledge what I was doing wrong.
If something so small was holding you back, then odds are it was your psyche and not your gameplay. such has occured to too many people I know.
So instead of sugar coating it and going "it wasn't that bad" it was "you missed this piss easy point blank skillshot, auto attacked a minion then cancelled 3 autos due to constantly switching between clicking on the enemy champ and minions. The enemy then flashed away, I flash under them but forget about the tower that is now shooting me during all the commotion and I die".
You will end up locking yourself into around gold or low plat with this, maybe higher if you can hold absolute mastery a few champions, but you won't be noteworthy otherwise, because you will lose flexibility. If you focus on never making this mistake again, you will lose a tool, a choice that can be made.
Instead of doing that, you should think "I should have done this another way" and then visualize how exactly you could've succeeded, both in the same situation or with the same play.
I don't think people understand me really. Critisizing ones mistakes is not my problem here, but specifically focusing on the negative of it is.
dominusx5 votesI realise what my 0-4 Vayne did wrong.
I didnt dodge que. hue
Pentarina Only5 votesNo, 3/4 of the time my teammates are brain dead.
Legacy Hydralpha2 votesDid you watch the replays yet?
notice me Sin pi6 voteshe was talking about his teammates, not himself. He can still play like a wood division noob and still be correct.
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You'll see with clearer eyes what actually happened and why your teammates did what they did.
Sometimes you'll realize they actually aren't as brainless as you made them out to be in the heat of the moment
I do watch the replay and they are always brainless.
AraMoOse10 votesI do watch the replay and they are always brainless.
Pro tip : If it's always everyone but you, it's you.
Alleo5 votesHelpful tips: It actually is you.
macromite4 votesat this point its you. you are fighting too much.
Alleo2 votesRea Fact #497: Just because you don't like it doesn't make something less of a fact.
gottrjr1 votesRea Fact #497: Just because you don't like it doesn't make something less of a fact.
#498: Not a fact, still, I am awesome.
BlackHairedGirl2 votesFACT 499: THEY MIGHT BE SOMETIMES. BUT DON'T APPLY THAT TO EACH TEAMMATE YOU SEE.
gottrjr1 votesFACT 499: THEY MIGHT BE SOMETIMES. BUT DON'T APPLY THAT TO EACH TEAMMATE YOU SEE.
FACT 500: I judge everyone accordingly.
Mira Arya Enthe2 votesSticky?
Sir Jubs2 votesThe fact of the matter is you can't do anything about how your teammates play the game. You can try and talk some sense into them, but at the end of the day you can't do anything about it. Watch YOUR replays, learn from YOUR mistakes, and move on.
Ekko Project2 votesOr sometimes you will realize that they are more braindead then you thought
Yukovskite2 votesI would only add: Wait for a bit (to cool off), then watch it.
Lauchmelder1 votesThe "sometimes" saved you, because there's absolutely no reason a botlane should lose to Panth + Yi. Yes, that happened.
KilljoyX1 votesThe problem is that you're only responsible for about 10% of losses OR WINS! because there are 10 players thats why people who are playing at their level (Or even a fair bit better than it) still lose over 45% of games which is an ENORMOUS NUMBER OF GAMES! Especially since in order to get promoted you need 3 wins out of 4 games or 4 wins out of 6 games. This creates an unsatisfying feel to improving marginally.
It kinda feels like the opposite of dark souls. In dark souls I know 99.999% of the deaths were my fault (My controller died once felt bad man) and when I go back to even the hardest areas I feel like I am better than this.
I do not feel the same in league. It's incredibly hard to win in elo's lower than mine. It's incredibly hard to win in elo's which I've already passed through and did extraordinary in. It takes dozens of games <HER DER YOU GOT WORSE!> well if that were true why would I have trouble carrying on a smurf in silver and gold more than 60% of games?
Basically every 5 divs you are better than where you are your win rate goes up about 10%. That is a staggeringly slow climb and really frustrating. I climb the corporate ladder faster than the league one which is pretty sad.
Aeszarck1 votesThe problem is that you're only responsible for about 10% of losses OR WINS! because there are 10 players thats why people who are playing at their level (Or even a fair bit better than it) still lose over 45% of games which is an ENORMOUS NUMBER OF GAMES! Especially since in order to get promoted you need 3 wins out of 4 games or 4 wins out of 6 games. This creates an unsatisfying feel to improving marginally.
It kinda feels like the opposite of dark souls. In dark souls I know 99.999% of the deaths were my fault (My controller died once felt bad man) and when I go back to even the hardest areas I feel like I am better than this.
I do not feel the same in league. It's incredibly hard to win in elo's lower than mine. It's incredibly hard to win in elo's which I've already passed through and did extraordinary in. It takes dozens of games <HER DER YOU GOT WORSE!> well if that were true why would I have trouble carrying on a smurf in silver and gold more than 60% of games?
Basically every 5 divs you are better than where you are your win rate goes up about 10%. That is a staggeringly slow climb and really frustrating. I climb the corporate ladder faster than the league one which is pretty sad.
Not entirely true, you can shotcall your team to win. The less you focus on your lane and the more you focus on your allies (which you can afford to do because you're better than your lane opponent), the better you can make them do.
KilljoyX1 votesNot entirely true, you can shotcall your team to win. The less you focus on your lane and the more you focus on your allies (which you can afford to do because you're better than your lane opponent), the better you can make them do.
You can shotcall but you cannot make your team FOLLOW the call.
Aeszarck1 votesYou can shotcall but you cannot make your team FOLLOW the call.
The more your team respects you, the more likely they are to listen. So if you have a good score, a reasonable plan, and a likeable attitude, then your team will be most likely doing what you ask. Being a good leader is partly about knowing how to get people to like you. If you can't do that you'll be less likely to succeed. Would you say you are good at getting your team to like you, and would you say you are good at making macro decisions that win your team the gsme?
KilljoyX1 votesThe more your team respects you, the more likely they are to listen. So if you have a good score, a reasonable plan, and a likeable attitude, then your team will be most likely doing what you ask. Being a good leader is partly about knowing how to get people to like you. If you can't do that you'll be less likely to succeed. Would you say you are good at getting your team to like you, and would you say you are good at making macro decisions that win your team the gsme?
Your argument is that being more likable, not being more skillful should grant you an increase in elo. That's so absurd and irritating that it hurts. Having a good KDA even as NUNU for christ sake doesn't force people to follow the call.
Aeszarck1 votesYour argument is that being more likable, not being more skillful should grant you an increase in elo. That's so absurd and irritating that it hurts. Having a good KDA even as NUNU for christ sake doesn't force people to follow the call.
My argument is that being both should grant you an increase in MMR. If you are super nice but you make terrible macro decisions and your team follows up on those decisions because they trust you and like you, then you're the one losing your team the game. You need to be nice and skillful if you want to be consistently listened to and then do well as a result.
BlackHairedGirl1 votesYou can lead a 
to scuttle but you can't make it auto.
scazzman1 votesNot entirely true, you can shotcall your team to win. The less you focus on your lane and the more you focus on your allies (which you can afford to do because you're better than your lane opponent), the better you can make them do.
attempting to shotcall outside of a premade in low elo will just get you troll aggro
Joek91001 votesOr you'll see that they were worse
LuxannaVeritas1 votesDefinitely something people should do more often.
I mean, there's always the chance that you were right to feel upset, but there's always the chance that something other than what you remembered happened.
