Banned players playing on alt accounts still being toxic, proposed solution.

Makior72··2 votes·866 views

I wrote this as a response in another post, but let me know what you all think about it.

i'm not a super tech savvy person but I know my way around a computer fairly well and what I'm about to suggest seems feasible to me. Have the game client and riot servers make a note of the mac address of every device that connects to it (I'm sure they already do this) and if an account from X mac address gets banned, then that mac address gets added to a list.

Said list would be considered the "Super ban hammer mega highway" (name subject to change) and would basically be like a super nanny for any pc on that list. mac address X got banned on account X and then an hour later on another account mac address X is doing the same thing that got their other account banned? insta ban for the same amount of time the first account was banned for. The ban would end at the same time the first offending account comes off its ban, and would elevate all of the non main offender accounts to the same disciplinary status as the first account.

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Alpha God Yiizus2 votes

But what if you have siblings that play league who aren't toxic and play on the same Wi-Fi as you. It's easier said than done. I do dislike trolls and toxic players but yeah idk man.

Makior721 votes

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But what if you have siblings that play league who aren't toxic and play on the same Wi-Fi as you. It's easier said than done. I do dislike trolls and toxic players but yeah idk man.

"mac address X got banned on account X and then an hour later on another account mac address X is doing the same thing that got their other account banned? insta ban for the same amount of time the first account was banned for."

In order to get banned, they must first do something ban worthy under this proposed system. Each individual device with internet capability has a mac address, just because your sibling on computer X gets banned, doesn't mean computer Y also gets banned, because computer Y and computer X have different mac addresses.

Alpha God Yiizus1 votes

What if you are using 1 desktop? I guess the idea of what got u banned on 1 account will get you banned on a 2nd account right away. I doubt riot will do that tbh.

Bunnymap1 votes

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But what if you have siblings that play league who aren't toxic and play on the same Wi-Fi as you. It's easier said than done. I do dislike trolls and toxic players but yeah idk man.

It's not an IP ban. This system is more of a watch list. If a player is banned for being toxic, all accounts on that IP address will be put on a list. If an account on that list is toxic, then they will be banned immediately. If an account on the list isn't toxic, then they will not be banned.

Scary Door2 votes

It's a good thing you came up with a fool proof system there OP, luckily MAC Addresses can't be spoofed.

Oh, wait. http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-change-mac-address/

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Makior721 votes

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It's a good thing you came up with a fool proof system there OP, luckily MAC Addresses can't be spoofed.

Oh, wait. http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-change-mac-address/

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"i'm not a super tech savvy person " I never claimed to be an expert.

how many people know how to spoof a mac address without looking it up? how many banned players would actually look it up?

there are other things that can be used to identify a computer, windows keys for example.

another poster mentioned internet cafes as a problem, and he is right about that.

no need to be an asshole.

Killed Inaction1 votes

Just wanted to say I think this is a really good idea. Better than any of the other "alt toxicity solutions" I've seen on this board.

Kei1431 votes

what happens if a guy was toxic and got banned in an internet cafe?

I suck at Jhin1 votes

Now everyone who goes to internet cafes and is toxic, gets permabanned for one game just because they said "fuck you" and boards is full of "gg permabanned for literally two words that weren't even perma worthy fuck this game I quit".

ModThe Djinn1 votes

Shared desktops for family members and (and this is the big one) Internet Cafes destroy this idea -- the latter is really important because a huge part of the Asian market connects through PC Bangs and thus shares computers.

I suck at Jhin1 votes

But he said

mac address X got banned on account X and then an hour later on another account mac address X is doing the same thing that got their other account banned? insta ban for the same amount of time the first account was banned for.

So, who cares if it's same guy or someone else flaming? It would just result in less flame overall, because that system wouldn't do anything unless something that you can get banned for either way, happens.

It's better idea than anything else I've seen yet, is there something I overlooked on why it wouldn't work? Spoofing MAC address sure is a thing, but riot isn't obliged to tell anyone how they detect stuff or what changes they made to their system, so I doubt it wouldn't be successful, at least at first.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

[{quoted}](name=I suck at Jhin,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x86TeMEF,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-15T16:35:43.819+0000)So, who cares if it's same guy or someone else flaming? It would just result in less flame overall, because that system wouldn't do anything unless something that you can get banned for either way, happens.

The company that runs the PC cafe would certainly care. If 2% of their customers who are toxic get the other 98% banned, they go out of business, or stop carrying League as a game.

Riot is also firmly against policies that have a chance to affect innocent players.

TheViper79111 votes

Nice try but no.

  1. Mac address can be easily changed, and cannot be identified remotely. ARP is a non routable protocol. Sure they can use software to identify it but it can be changed.

  2. Riot doesnt ban PEOPLE vs accounts for "reasons" - no reason to cut off streams of income.

AJStarhiker1 votes

I play at a gaming center where LoL is a major draw. It also hosts League tournements and local teams go there to practice. Mac bans would pretty much destroy the business.

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