The hurtful truth about bans

Eternal Torment··3 votes·401 views

It is maybe known to some i am new to the League of legends boards, so i have been spending a lot of time reading back some of the older Posts and reading back generally everything regarding since new years/the Season beginning. And it might not be nice to hear it but so many people complain about getting suspended or permabanned. So i want to put this to quick attention, because a lot of people seemingly do not understand the degree necessary for the punishment. Riot permabans people out of repeaded appearance of toxicity, cases of very extreme toxicity like giving death wishes and such, possible boosters, Acc sharing and other grave violations of the Terms and conditions aswell as the behaviour rules. having said that, riot does NOT take a point of view for any form of reason or purpose whatsoever. It does not matter why you did it, on who you did it, or when you did it. you violated their rules, so you got banned. There are only VERY few exceptional cases where riot actually did fuck up their bans like that guy who recently provided proof that he was falsely accused of acc sharing because he screwed up his IP changing, but that was as mentioned AN EXCEPTIONAL case. Most people are banned because they rightfully screwed up, and while it is understandable that many of you got toxic because someone triggered it in you, be it a troll or a inter, you still were toxic regardless. and riot does not sympathise with These reasons. toxic is toxic, so punishment is punishment. i too get toxic here and there, it happens to the best of us even. hell, faker could get toxic if the conditions are met. But he, just to make an example, would get equal punishment as everyone else.

If you were permabanned, then riot has surely notified you as of why you were banned, and often you do not feel like it was worth a ban, but how you feel is not decisive for the punishment itself. You were banned, it means you violated the Terms enough to be considered worthy of that ban, be it through how extreme you were or how often you misbehaved. Learn from it, and either better yourself or simply dont Play the game. Riot is not perfect but they are strict, everyone knows it, so you should not act surprised when they simply execute what they have been and will still announce is their proper measurements against such behaviour. having said that, don't go into the boards and complain about "how your behaviour was toxic" when clearly you then get a majority in the comments telling you "yes you were toxic".

i may Sound rude about it but this is the harsh and partly sad truth, if you were banned then theres a 98% chance it was justified, whether or not YOU had a reason to act like this.

im sorry for those who feel offended or hurt by what i said just now but thats simply how it is. you misbehaved/broke the rules, and you got punished for it. Asking how your punishment was justified only wastes everyones time AND basically Outs you to the world as an toxic/negative individual, giving you a bad rep to go with it.

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Magical Player3 votes

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Torterra622 votes

I was given a permabanned without notification of why... I'll tell you now it wasn't because i was toxic of feeding or racist or anything like that. its because i afk d a few matches due to computer problems. then one day i tried to login and was given a tag saying my account was permanently suspended. with no kind of warning. surely that shouldn't be fair.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I was given a permabanned without notification of why... I'll tell you now it wasn't because i was toxic of feeding or racist or anything like that. its because i afk d a few matches due to computer problems. then one day i tried to login and was given a tag saying my account was permanently suspended. with no kind of warning. surely that shouldn't be fair.

It's because you AFK'd a few matches? But you said without notification of why. So how did you figure out why? Did they end up telling you eventually?

Torterra621 votes

Nope its cause the AFKs were the only possible thing i could think of. however you re supposed to be notified.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Players are not permabanned for a few AFKs. AFKs and leavings are handled by the LeaverBuster system and you would have had to have gone through quite a few levels of the Low Priority Queue to even be considered for a ban. Basically, you have to go through the initial warning, the 5 minute LPQ games, and the 20 minute LPQ games, and THEN even more leaving before you would even come close to being able to be banned for it. So you would really have had to AFK'd a lot to be banned for it.

I saw your other thread, and Nami's reply. You really do need to submit a ticket to Player Support, because there are many things that it could be and not all of them are actually negative. It could be due to a possible account compromise - in those situations, Riot will lock the account for the safety of the player, and it is only unlocked when the player contacts Support. If you are certain that your email address is correct, and that you have checked all the folders, please contact Support and wait for their reply. They will tell you exactly why your account was suspended.

Riot will always tell a player why their account was punished/suspended. All punishments are accompanied with an email giving the reason for the punishment, though there are cases where the emails are sent to junk/spam folders. In those situations, players can submit a ticket to Player Support and they will be given the reason. In the case of toxicity, players are given the Reform Card via the client alert, which contains chat logs of matches for which they were reported. In the cases of illegal third party programs, account sharing, boosting, and other types of cheats or hacks, players are told what they were caught doing, but are not given the exact evidence, so that the hackers/scripters are not made aware of what methods Riot has developed to detect them. But players are never banned without being told why they were banned. They are always at least made aware or what category of the rules they were found violating.

Edit - Just wanted to add in, in case I hadn't made it clear on other posts, I do agree with you Zed Bot Tacocat (and I love that name!) While it may feel harsh at times to say it, many times I do simply want to say "You people knew what the rules were and you broke them anyway! Deal with the consequences!" I don't say it, because I try to remember that there are many different ages and social backgrounds of people playing this game; some younger, some from much less stable living situations, and for many this game is their only way of dealing with horrible situations. And there are some players who genuinely don't know that much about the finer points of the Code of Conduct (Like that calling for reports is considered harassment. It's surprising how many people don't know that!) But even then, I still agree with you, that for about 99.9% of the cases, the punishments are justified. The players may not like them or agree with them, but they are in clear violation of the rules.

Eternal Torment1 votes

That is why i dropped an apology to those who feel hurt by it. Im aware that theres often a certain factor or reason behind a behaviour and while i may sympathise with it riot doesnt. They have a set protocoll of measures for every degree of violation that must be executed equally for everyone. By being strict they may appear as assholes but thats what makes them good. They keep the rules up and if they would show sympathy to those that reacted instead of provoking then this game would be utterly dominated by toxic people whod excuse their anger.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

In all the interactions I've had with Player Support, they have always been very polite and quite fair. I've never seen them to show any sort of bias, or unprofessionalism. Personally, I don't find the rules to be difficult to follow. I'd sum it up in one sentence: don't be a dick. May not be the most dignified way of phrasing it, but I think it covers all the points quite nicely xD I think many players view Riot's "strictness" as Riot looking for a way to punish "bad" players, when that isn't their intention. Riot is strict because they are protecting all players from behaviors that the player-base has found to be offensive.

Eternal Torment2 votes

Exactly!

Eternal Torment1 votes

Then something is not okay...as multiple people told you. You will need to write a ticket and wait about 12 to max 24h. Rioters reply fast

Maximum Morde1 votes

Not entirely true. I could go out and get perma'd first offense easily if I wanted.

Eternal Torment2 votes

thats why i specified, either over how often or over HOW EXTREME, either works. riot can indeed give a perma ban on first strike if your offense was grave enough. i stated that, twice.

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