Apparently Trolling does go by with Riot's punishment system

Eternal Torment··19 votes·4,164 views

Evidence: https://imgur.com/qOXeFGY

Credit to @A Nunu for publifying this. Not gonna be a snitch and claim credit here, But I did think it would be half a decent idea to promote this in it's own post.

Basically, this picture confirms you can go on a massive trolling spree and get away if you even slightly make it look like you are "just having a bad game", Example here, one. and i mean ONE, single, fucking, win. Followed by 46 games of trolling IN A ROW.

Great to know that those "Why is trolling not punished" posts were not entirely bullshit.

Edit: Not 46...47 losses.

Edit 2: If one takes a closer look, then the supposted troll degraded himself all the way down from masters back to platinum.

Edit 3: Wow, did not expect downvotes. How come people love hatetalk, but hate presentable evidence? I for the love of all sanity cannot see why people disagree with cold, hard, black on white proof.

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A Nunu7 votes

https://twitter.com/RiotSupport/status/988574352571535360 Here's the actual tweet just in case anyone thinks it's not real. https://i.imgur.com/b7Hjwht.png/img

Ekitaih1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Nunu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vAWJar2d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-19T22:01:21.706+0000)

https://twitter.com/RiotSupport/status/988574352571535360 Here's the actual tweet just in case anyone thinks it's not real. https://i.imgur.com/b7Hjwht.png/img

Is there an updated OP.gg on said troll?

A Nunu2 votes

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Is there an updated OP.gg on said troll?

It's possible that he changed his name since this happened quite a long time ago. He might've also been actually banned.

I know that he wasn't banned for at least a long while after the tweet though. I followed checked his account on OP.GG basically every day back then.

Basically, there really isn't any way to find out what actually happened or any way to find his current OP.GG.

https://i.imgur.com/b7Hjwht.png/img

Ekitaih1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Nunu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vAWJar2d,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-19T22:52:52.027+0000)

It's possible that he changed his name since this happened quite a long time ago. He might've also been actually banned. I know that he wasn't banned for at least a long while though. I followed checked his account on OP.GG basically every day back then. Basically, there really isn't any way to find out what actually happened or any way to find his current OP.GG. https://i.imgur.com/b7Hjwht.png/img

Yes. But you have to realize that it takes a while for them to ban trolls like that because they have to make sure they aren't just banning them in error. I've never been on that bad of a losing streak, but I've had quite a few before (Like 10?) so it has to go before a tribunal. The reason it's so easy to ban a toxic person related to what they say is because a bot can register what they say and ban them based on key words and amount of content. AIs aren't smart enough to mark certain behavior so then it has to be reviewed by a person. Hence the reason it takes longer to ban people such as this. Regardless, this person most likely got banned. It just took longer to do it. That can't be helped, currently.

A Nunu2 votes

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Yes. But you have to realize that it takes a while for them to ban trolls like that because they have to make sure they aren't just banning them in error. I've never been on that bad of a losing streak, but I've had quite a few before (Like 10?) so it has to go before a tribunal. The reason it's so easy to ban a toxic person related to what they say is because a bot can register what they say and ban them based on key words and amount of content. AIs aren't smart enough to mark certain behavior so then it has to be reviewed by a person. Hence the reason it takes longer to ban people such as this. Regardless, this person most likely got banned. It just took longer to do it. That can't be helped, currently.

I think that losing that many games in a row while going 0/10 every game is evidence enough. Especially with his troll builds. I remember when I looked at his games he did little to more than 100 damage to champions each game. I can't imagine any reality where this would be "suspected feeding" rather than something that's just blatantly obvious.

And they don't even have to be so careful to watch ALL of those games anyways. One to three games is enough.

This really should not be a hard case for Riot. I think it should be completely out of the question. Sorry.

https://i.imgur.com/b7Hjwht.png/img

EvilxUndertonez5 votes

Does this actually shock people?

DoktorKaiser1 votes

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Does this actually shock people?

Of course it doesn't , I got chat banned for telling a intentional feeder that he is a 5 year old and muting him, then asking the enemy to report him for hate speech and inting for no reason. He is still playing and is honor level 5, while I am down from honor level 1 checkpoint 3 to honor level 0 checkpoint 0 because of 2 10-game chat bans 6 months apart, which are laughable to say at best. The entire report-honor system is hot garbage and is a disgrace.

Kei1434 votes

If you didn't know, soft trolling is currently a manual review process only . The automated hasn't gotten to the point be able to detect such behavior.

The manual reviews are backed logged and it typically takes around 2 weeks or so before they get to review those games.

Ekitaih3 votes

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If you didn't know, soft trolling is currently a manual review process only . The automated hasn't gotten to the point be able to detect such behavior.

The manual reviews are backed logged and it typically takes around 2 weeks or so before they get to review those games.

Sometimes it takes longer.

TKP B1lly2 votes

it actually takes at least one month. ONE recent example is this case : https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jFwTE8Oj-playing-off-meta-in-ranked-int-feeding-ban The guy received over 500 reports over a month and a little, and only then he was flagged for manual review. The guy hard griefed and trolled every single of his games, down from lvl 1 up to lvl 43. Every single game he tried to lose. Yet he only got checked after 42 levels, after 5 weeks, after 500 reports and after who knows how many handreds of games.

Another example is the OP's screenshot. I remember that case, it is too old. (not sure if its the same case or a similar one). But that guy was trolling for OVER one month too. He had lost around 100 ranked games in a row with nunu, propably received around 500 reports also. He only got banned after all of that... (edit, its a different one. the OP's case is recent and from korea. the case i described was from 2016 i think, in west.)

edit : another case : http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=%C5%BEyzz . banned after 72 troll games in a row OF RUNNING IT DOWN 3-5 times and then going afk farming jungle. trust me, if he didnt run it down 3-5 times at the start of each game, he would have been banned not after 70 games, but after 170. because the only "trolling" behavior riot DOES insta ban even if done only in a couple of games, is intentionally feeding. and still, they dont ban all intentionally feeder, rather than only the few stupid ones you run it down to opponent turrets and are stupid enough to admit it in the chat.

One thing is certain. Behaviors of trolling, griefing, and generally trying to intentionally lose a game, are only punished if they reach the above scale/magnitude. People who only troll/grief occasionally from time to time, just DONT get punished. period. When riot comes forward and says such behaviors warrant account suspensions even after a single game, is just theory. noone ever gets banned for trolling/griefing unless they do it in every single game they play, for over a hundreds of games, for over a month.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

Thats the magic of "just a bad game". At least people seem to be more aware of it now. This board has always tried to ignore the problem.

Sorin Alucard2 votes

DAAAAAMNNNN

Ekitaih1 votes

I'm not seeing the OP.gg.

redniwediS1 votes

Edit 3: Wow, did not expect downvotes. How come people love hatetalk, but hate presentable evidence? I for the love of all sanity cannot see why people disagree with cold, hard, black on white proof.

A lot of people are conditioned to just downvote threads like this, because evidence is so rare that it's a rather safe assumption that there won't be any. I came into this thread expecting to see the usual claims with no evidence, I'll gladly admit that, but when I see evidence I upvote.

Arammus1 votes

https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/de/c/player-behaviour-en/NsFBoTHf-just-a-bad-game?comment=001d

i posted this on the euw boards a while ago and got a riot respone.

since i dont really stalk korean trolls i cant tell for sure, but from what i heard this guy is still trolling lol

minus 25k1 votes

I screenshot a chat log where a teammate openly admit he trolled my game. Submitted a ticket reporting this troll with screenshot. Nothing ever happened lol. But if you say anything hurt someone's feeling ingame, oh no, riot is coming for you. I stopped believing riot cares about player experience at all after this

HalcyonDweller1 votes

I want visibility for this so Riot will fix it, but I don't want visibility for it because it will embolden trolls who would make use of such methods.

So conflicted... I updooted anyway, but damn this is a real moral quandary for me.

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