"I see people who don't surrender as an honorable opponent;" Is it punishable?

Inari Fox Orrion·Apr 9, 2017·2 votes·717 views

I have a tendency to outright state in chat "I see people who don't surrender as an honorable opponent. Plus, you always have a chance to turn it around." and it, on top of reducing the amount of flame I see in /all, it reduces the number of forfeits too.

Is it a punishable "offense" for me to be doing this, for me to honor people who live up to my standards of what an honorable opponent is?

AFAIK it isn't trading honor. It's a grey line. I give them honor, and publicly state that I will, in return for a better game experience for me (and I assume them, since there never seems to be any flame win or lose) and my team.

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CochoApr 9, 20173 votes

If I remember correctly, if you rarely honor, then your 1 honor is worth more than someone who honors alot.

Your honors are worth less xd, but there's nothing wrong with that lol. There's nothing wrong with honoring people.

The whole system is planned to get changed/updated to promote being good teammates/opponents. Hopefully in a way so that it's actually visible, I rarely see honor ribbons. I feel like alot of people just don't honor.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20171 votes

I just want to know if it's punishable for me to honor the opponents that don't /ff when I announce that I'll be doing just that.

In my experience, it makes for a better match in terms of quality, no matter which side I'm on. I rarely see flame from the other team, and it often leaves me happy with a full, finished match rather than one abruptly cut off by a surrender vote.

CochoApr 9, 20174 votes

You can honor all you like, but are you saying something like, "if you don't FF, I'll honor"

I actually don't think there has been any stance on basically persuading people with honors lol

Honor trading is one thing, but this isn't that.

Not forfeiting for some reason seems like a good reason for being a honorable opponent. You're fine.

Honor all you'd like if you think they earned it.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20171 votes

I actually don't think there has been any stance on basically persuading people with honors lol

Honor trading is one thing, but this isn't that.

That's why I asked. I'm afraid if I keep persuading people not to forfeit and let me enjoy my victory or defeat, I'll eventually be banned/punished for it even if I don't really think it goes against what the system is meant for.

This Is Your DadApr 9, 20172 votes

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That's why I asked. I'm afraid if I keep persuading people not to forfeit and let me enjoy my victory or defeat, I'll eventually be banned/punished for it even if I don't really think it goes against what the system is meant for.

Honestly, you can't really get chat restricted via instant feedback for that afaik and if it were manually reviewed I think it would be seen as a positive behavior rather than a negative one.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20171 votes

I hope. It's just consistently made my games better to play.

Oh, and nice name. ;)

WolfessApr 9, 20173 votes

No, it's not punishable. Anyone can honor another at their own discretion.

KrigjerApr 9, 20172 votes

AFAIK it isn't trading honor. It's a grey line. I give them honor, and publicly state that I will, in return for a better game experience for me (and I assume them, since there never seems to be any flame win or lose) and my team.

I'd consider it honour trading. You might not be trading honours 1 for 1, but you're promising to give them an honour if you get what you want.

Whether you might be punished for it or not I can't say; just putting in my two cents.

SoulhavokApr 9, 20172 votes

This is the best answer on this topic I believe. As much as you believe you are doing a good thing others can report you for encouraging trolls to continue griefing in a game. You don't seem like the person to do that but given enough reports that could stack up against you it is possible for riot to look into the case. Best to keep quiet and honor who you believe deserves it with instigating anything.

MisterSkiApr 9, 20171 votes

You are a terrible person, if people want to ff because the game isn't fun when you are getting crushed you shouldn't judge them for it. That being said I would never want you on my team with the weeb never give up john cena bs attitude. Don't ff in ranked but in norms who gives a shit?

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20172 votes

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Rengar Rengar is the closest champion to me within the boundaries of the League universe for plenty of reasons that tie into my personality.

It's hardly an awful thing I commend people/honor people for living up to my standards of an honorable opponent I'd gladly fight again. If you think it is then... well, then you're not me, and that's fine.

See, from how you replied I can already tell you're the type with a slight inclination to bash people with opinions unlike your own, and then go on to argue with baseless logic after-the-fact. Of course I could be wrong, but... that doesn't change the fact I wouldn't touch you with the tip of the Titanic.

"John Cena" isn't any of the three traits I've listed. He's someone I don't know, but am well aware of the stereotype of. I don't fit into the stereotype; I want a good fight and that's it. They can choose to surrender anyway, and I won't look down on them for it, but I won't look up to them as an honorable foe either.

MisterSkiApr 9, 20171 votes

TL;DR It is a subjective concept so my OPINION is just a VALID as yours so look who's being IGNORANT....

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20172 votes

I wish it was an opinion that I see an honorable opponent as one who doesn't surrender. It's a fact, though, because I obviously do, and you can't do anything about it.

On another note, there's the baseless reply I was talking about.

A subjective concept is... well, it's something that varies person-to-person. The IDEA of rewarding people who live up to your standards isn't exactly a subjective concept, but it's close enough that it may as well be.

It's your opinion that I'm a terrible person. Does that make me one? Ehh, no, but it doesn't make me a good person either. Both good and evil ARE subjective concepts, though, and to me, "evil" is doing unneeded harm. To you or someone else, it may be not taking every sidequest in a game.

MisterSkiApr 9, 20171 votes

It's your OPINION the case that it is a fact that it is your opinion doesn't make it not an opinion...

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20172 votes

It's a fact that my opinion is how it is. Sorry, mate, but it's not an opinion that my opinion is what it is, because that'd mean it'd change based on you. It doesn't.

Note, that doesn't mean it's not an opinion.

MisterSkiApr 9, 20171 votes

You are saying that it isn't an opinion when it is be definition an opinion. It is a fact that your opinion is what it is.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 9, 20172 votes

Read again. I'm saying that my opinion is an opinion, and that it's fact that it's an opinion and that I have an opinion.

MisterSkiApr 9, 20171 votes

Yes and just because our opinions differ doesn't mean either is correct because the concept that our opinions are about is SUBJECTIVE...