Current ban system as is.

MilfHuntUnitXJ9·12/4/2015, 8:10:25 AM·3 votes·899 views

3 years i've had my account. 3 years I've spent playing a game I enjoyed. I know very well I enjoyed it too much and got too deep and that's why I got banned.

I'm not saying toxicity should be unpunished by any stretch of the imagination, but shouldn't permanent bans should be saved for hackers, cheaters, scripters and people who send links to viruses or any other bad shit in chat.

Let me clarify. I would not wish a permanent ban on my worst enemy. I love playing video games, it's what I do. Sometimes I spend too much time on them, but I like that. It doesn't interfere with my schoolwork, I still socialize, and I get done what I need to get done.

"If you love video games you should be able to pick another one up easily, your behavior means you weren't welcome here" I'm harsh on people yes, but I never crossed the line of telling people to kill themselves, or told them I'm going to kill them. It's not that simple, I enjoy playing on my account and I enjoy the game.

(Let me share with you something on the above statement before I go on. Everybody who kills and murders in cold blood as well as people who commit suicide weren't taught the value of another person's life. Give somebody who understands the value of a gun, and they won't use it. This is a tad unrelated to a ban, but more on the fact there's people who tell their teammates to kill themselves when they make a bad play.)

Sure, I still have my skill at the game, but another perma ban is another history book banned imo. The writer has to start all over from a new book.

So many temporary bans i've received over this few years and I never learned my lesson, and that's why the ban system sucks. You can't expect people to change who they are by removing something they may have struggled for years to achieve.

"But video games aren't real life, why are you taking it so seriously?" Video games are art, hobbies, science, math, and entertainment, and a way for others to share what they've made for you (In this case, League of Legends) and anything that exists within any stretch of reality is real life.

"Riot can do whatever they want with this game, if they don't want you playing it, that's your own damn fault. you agreed to this in the EULA and terms of service" I know they don't want people being jerks, but neither punishments nor rewards will help.

Now, I'm hoping people won't see this as another appeal thread and downvote it instantly. I want to know what people think about the permanent bans for toxicity and why it should be the way it is, as well as why it shouldn't be. I will try to reply,

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Jubbinaut12/4/2015, 9:11:59 AM3 votes

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I'm not saying toxicity should be unpunished by any stretch of the imagination, but shouldn't permanent bans should be saved for hackers, cheaters, scripters and people who send links to viruses or any other bad shit in chat.

You're certainly welcome to that opinion. Riot disagrees. And I tend to think that banishment seems like an appropriate response to players who refuse to behave according to the standards set forth for and by the community. If you don't want to behave appropriately to the community you're choosing to be a part of, that community should have the option to remove you from itself.

"If you love video games you should be able to pick another one up easily, your behavior means you weren't welcome here" I'm harsh on people yes, but I never crossed the line of telling people to kill themselves, or told them I'm going to kill them.

That's your line in the sand. And that's a fine line to have. But I think it's pretty silly for the whole community to have to accept your line as the standard, regardless of where their lines may be.

So many temporary bans i've received over this few years and I never learned my lesson, and that's why the ban system sucks. You can't expect people to change who they are by removing something they may have struggled for years to achieve.

No one's asking you to change who you are. They asked you to change how you behave within the context of their game. Those are extremely different things.

And the message intended by a perma-ban is "This game is not the right fit for you. Try something else." It means they've given up on reformation, and have resorted to removing you from the community for the good of that community.

"Riot can do whatever they want with this game, if they don't want you playing it, that's your own damn fault. you agreed to this in the EULA and terms of service" I know they don't want people being jerks, but neither punishments nor rewards will help.

Well that's contrary to basically every bit of evidence ever.

Now, I'm hoping people won't see this as another appeal thread and downvote it instantly. I want to know what people think about the permanent bans for toxicity and why it should be the way it is, as well as why it shouldn't be. I will try to reply,

I think you have a very strong opinion, and you think that everyone else should have to accept your opinion as the standard. I also think that I'm glad that I don't have to - because I'd be finding myself a new game.

PIMPSMOOTH12/4/2015, 8:16:40 AM2 votes

"I know very well I enjoyed it too much and got too deep and that's why I got banned."

Translation: You enjoyed being a toxic jerk and after a series of warnings, restrictions and bans opted to ignore them all resulting in a perma ban, and you still learned nothing.

DIRU12/4/2015, 8:12:23 AM2 votes

"i played a lot and i got banned. unban me"

FTFY

EvilDustMan12/4/2015, 1:11:20 PM2 votes

Considering your posts in other threads. No, your quote is accurate, in fact. You never learned the value of words and how your misuse of them affects others and your own image. There is no alternative to the ban system for you because you refuse to see the way you articulate as unnecessary and detrimental.

You don't have the right to 'be harsh' to others. It is not your duty or right here. Learn to type like this all the time instead of the verbal diarrhea you spew on other threads and you might just survive on you next account.

TeCoolMage12/4/2015, 8:53:26 AM1 votes

I feel you're intentionally leaving out things.

Why were you banned What does valuing life have to do with the ban system

for one

Korillo12/4/2015, 1:53:15 PM1 votes

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3 years i've had my account. 3 years I've spent playing a game I enjoyed. I know very well I enjoyed it too much and got too deep and that's why I got banned.

I'm not saying toxicity should be unpunished by any stretch of the imagination, but shouldn't permanent bans should be saved for hackers, cheaters, scripters and people who send links to viruses or any other bad shit in chat.

No, it should also be used for people like you who promote toxic gameplay.

So many temporary bans i've received over this few years and I never learned my lesson, and that's why the ban system sucks. You can't expect people to change who they are by removing something they may have struggled for years to achieve.

They didn't permanently ban you because they expected it to change you. They permanently banned you because, like you said, you never learned your lesson. Since you were repeatedly toxic and refused to reform they really had no choice but to permanently ban you, and it sounds like it was the right choice.

It's great to see players like yourself being removed from the game, it shows the system is working.

alasarcher12/4/2015, 6:39:54 PM1 votes

If there wasnt permanent ban, then there wouldnt be reason for people to stop being toxic. But knowing that you put your account on stake when u start flaming, thats the thing that can restrain a person. Doesnt always work as there are people who believe they are above the system, then we have threads like these :D