To the Team that Refused to Surrender

Great Muta··6 votes·1,069 views

Thank you for adding an additional 28:17 on to the loss.

I really enjoyed going 3-21 while being blown up by a 32-5-16 Miss Fortune who was doing single 1600 HP basic attacks. The 18-1-15 Aatrox on the other team really added to the experience.

We still lost and you ensured I played one less game last night and really ruined my experience, while scaring me off from wanting to try Caitlyn again.

11 Comments

Lux Lux6 votes

There are games where it's impossible to win, it's inevitable. No one ever gets 100% winrate.

However, some people (not you specifically) give up way too early. These people that just say "gg surr" and act negatively for the rest of the game, basically ensuring the loss, are even worse. Some even flame the team, get toxic the whole game and refuse to at least try to win. They essentially help the enemy team win.

What's worse, losing a game you know it's lost but teammates refuse to surrender, or losing a game knowing there was a possibility to win but there's a teammate who refuses to cooperate on the objective? I'd say it's obviously the latter.

Also, why would you hate people who are trying to win? Is it bad to not surrender? The answer is like they would say in every sport, no. The best answer in sports will always be "never surrender until the very end".

Great Muta1 votes

I just wanted my front page upvotes since that's all we are here to do with our anecdotal stories.

Lux Lux3 votes

I stay true to what I said. And my objective was to make you think about it. I'm not lying or trying to get upvotes (I mean, you can look at my Boards profile, I only have like what, 20 upvotes? lol).

What I'm trying to get at is: have you ever been in the situation I described?

Great Muta1 votes

What's worse, losing a game you know it's lost but teammates refuse to surrender, or losing a game knowing there was a possibility to win but there's a teammate who refuses to cooperate on the objective? I'd say it's obviously the latter.

Losing is bad no matter the reason or circumstances. If I played this game for fun, I wouldn't play.

I can always carry myself to a win, so definitely the former. I routinely play 1v9, doing what I see fit and taking the victory. If I out cs the other player, I'll win out.

In a game where the team won't surrender, I'm basically e-jailed and that alone will ensure I do bad and have a horrible experience.

Also, why would you hate people who are trying to win?

Some games can't be won or the effort it would take requires extreme effort and unusual luck and it's just not worth it. I always play on limited time, so the shorter the better. I'd rather lose a game in 20 than maybe win in 60 after extreme luck.

Is it bad to not surrender?

I don't find games where I get raped like above to be fun and it took us over 40 minutes to get close to a point where we could slip a win out.

The answer is like they would say in every sport, no. The best answer in sports will always be "never surrender until the very end".

Most sports don't have AFK's, permanent 5v4's or strange systems where you win and get 10 points but lose and lose 20 points. Don't recall seeing an NBA game where the player had to AFK due to his mom yelling at him about chores or a game where the Quaterback goes to watch youtube during the play.

Harry Dresden3 votes

Think about the people who might have been enjoying that game, not even necessarily on the enemy team. Even if you are losing, it teaches you how to play when behind. It teaches you focus. They've got a 35-5 MF? You tell your team, don't even look at anyone else until MF is dead. Its all perspective man. 👍

Great Muta2 votes

Oh I'm sure the other team enjoyed it. They seemed to really love the additional trash talk and going for extra kills instead of winning.

Since we are sharing anecdotal stories about why teams don't surrender, and are getting upvoted for it, I thought I should get a piece of that pie too.

Hauling Ashe3 votes

You went an additional 28:17? Sounds like your team actually had some hope to win in spite of your feeding.

Great Muta4 votes

Other team was fooling around to grab extra kills.

Win or lose, we lost and it was a miserable experience.

S0kaX1 votes

Wow, people really hate giving up

HexaDecimel1 votes

Are you saying the game went 48:17, because that sounds like plenty of time to turn the game around. The longer the game goes on the less a gold lead means. You can catch up in level and finish your build. Sure maybe you had a terrible start, but if you can stall out a game then it just comes down to one important teamfight. So why give up.

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