Intentional feeding and AFK same time together needs tougher punishment

DemonCrow··2 votes·469 views

When Zed loss his lane hard, he went full int mode. Walking around did nothing but feed then afk at the nearest bush. I mean what is the point of playing if you gonna just troll and ruin other people's game? You might well just wait and get reported soon.

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Drugoth1 votes

Intentional feeding does already draw an escalated punishment. Riot has very minimal tolerance for such shitty behavior.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

The problem is their automated system is absolutely terrible when it comes to catching feeders. The system has to be extremely lenient due to "just a bad game".

Drugoth2 votes

I challenge you to come up with an algorithm that will only punish true inters. It's not really easy to pull off. Besides, people get accused of inting when they really aren't all the time by salty poor sports that just hate losing.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

At some point intent should not matter when it comes to feeding in ranked. Of course there isn't any way of knowing if someone is doing it on purpose or not. You can easily int without running it down mid with mobi boots.

RallerenP1 votes

I 100% do not agree at all. I think intent is the only factor that matters.

You have to remember that it's just a game. Of course you should still try to win as hard as possible, but that doesn't always work out. We shouldn't punish bad players for trying to play.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Well yeah, I know that punishments for feeding is an extremely unpopular opinion here, but I don't exactly see why. Riot punishes people based on creating negative experiences, and feeding is the largest cause of that. Given that Riot uses no context when it comes to AFKing or chat, why should it apply to feeding?

For example if I got bugsplatted or disconnected, I'm getting Leaverbuster no matter what. It doesn't matter if I had no intent or control over it. Which does make sense, as my teammates are having to play 4v5 regardless of the cause. Now lets say someone goes 0/10. Did they do it intentionally? There is no way of knowing, but the end result is still the same.

Because we have no way of knowing if its intentional or not other than super obvious cases of mobi boots/running down mid, people can very easily int and not be punished due to "just a bad game".

RallerenP2 votes

Riot punishes people based on creating negative experiences

No, they punish people for intentionally trying to create a negative experience.

Given that Riot uses no context when it comes to AFKing

Because you can generally control when you leave and don't leave. If you bugsplat or DC due to random circumstances Riot wont punish you. Riot doesn't punish you for leaving once. They punish you for consistently leaving. Also it's a very mild punishment, so giving it out incorrectly isn't a problem.

or chat

You don't have to prove intent with chat. If you get reported for calling someone a pos, you intentionally tried to create a negative experience.

people can very easily int and not be punished due to "just a bad game".

I agree the system isn't great atm. But I also know that the system is literally improving everyday. Every game, every report teaches it what inting looks like. In the short time, it's not a good solution, but in the long term it's the best solution possible.

Telephone Booth2 votes

What's the cut off then? If I get matched against golds and plats that really know how to take advantage of a lead (as a silver player, this happens at times) and camp the shit out of me and tower dive, 3v1, constantly roaming to my lane, while my team stays in their lanes, I'm gonna feed. It just happens sometimes.

Now if I gotta worry that at some point a system is automatically gonna ban me for feeding, I'm just gonna have to leave the game. That system doesn't make any sense. It will just mean once someone falls behind, they re gonna take the leaverbuster instead of getting their account banned completely. So comebacks will NEVER happen because people will just leave out of fear of being banned, even though they're doing the best they can. Sometimes the team has a responsibility to help you out when getting ganked repeatedly by more than just the jungler. But sometimes the team ignores that and chooses to farm and flame instead of doing something productive to help prevent the snowball that's forming in front of their eyes.

This isn't me making excuses, I am garbage at this game, I know that. I'm just thinking of scenarios that feeding happens and it's not intentionally, and it's almost unavoidable. You've never fed? Would you be fine if your account was banned a long time ago, and could be banned again if you feed again? What is the feed cut off? 8 deaths in 10 minutes? 7? 6? Why? Do you have statistics that give your numbers reason? Or is it an arbitrary number that you see fit? Did you just not think your idea through and you were just kinda throwing it out there for whatever reason?

Shadowynn1 votes

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I challenge you to come up with an algorithm that will only punish true inters. It's not really easy to pull off. Besides, people get accused of inting when they really aren't all the time by salty poor sports that just hate losing.

Screw the algorithm. Just hire 1,000 overseas workers and let them review game footage on suspected inters. Overseas because labor is cheap overseas and Riot is ridiculously rich. solved. Players just have to timestamp when the int started and BOOM, problem solved!

Telephone Booth1 votes

We all know they re only good at physical labor and menial tasks. I wouldn't trust a bunch of third world people who have never played a game in their life, being judges of suspected inters. xD

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