People kept making a fool out of themselves by lying

DemonCrow··17 votes·10,331 views

Everyday I see forum of people complaining why they are being suspended for 14 days or permabanned. Yet some still wanna lie in the forum that they did nothing wrong till RIOT pull out their chat logs. Opps! If you made mistakes that is against the rules of the game, you own it. Don't try to weasel out by making false statements. Unless your account had been unauthorized access then that is a different case.

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FOR JUSTICE8 votes

what's worse is when they troll in game, lie on the boards about it, then you have to summoner 11 with video evidence: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/MKBQUoKd-banned-for-intentionally-feeding?comment=0003

Silent Gravity5 votes

That was good detective work. Easy enough to see from his damage dealt numbers that he was trying to not contribute, but those clips made it obvious.

FOR JUSTICE3 votes

not gonna lie what hurt my heart the most was that ahri one with the pantheon, she legitimately was outrunning him XD

sweetrules4 votes

Rekt. Too bad it was only a 14-day suspension. He clearly went into games looking to teamkill. He deserves worse. I'm glad you brought the video evidence to light. It was obvious to me when I saw the thread first posted he was deflecting hard and trying to play dumb, but I went to bed before seeing your post on it. Nice work.

Ifneth1 votes

Remember to post Justice Garen.

[garen-swing]

JUSTICE!

VindicatorOFThey3 votes

I love you -

OniZetsu6667 votes

Like seriously its "I have done nothing wrong, I never flame and I didn't say anything bad." they don't post their logs. Everyone asks for them. They post their logs then its every curse word towards a player in the book and then some racial slurs and all kinds of other lovely things. Yeah. Did nothing wrong my ass.[slayer-jinx-unamused] It's like they think we are stupid. "B-But they flamed first and died alot so its their fault for making me act like this!" <----that's a favorite. Because all it does is prove that they are incapable of controlling and composing themselves. [zombie-brand-clap] Congrats ya done played yourself dummies.

Pika Fox3 votes

B-b-but.... But muh fer sperch!

OniZetsu6661 votes

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B-b-but.... But muh fer sperch!

Oh yeah that's another good one. I would love to ask alot of these people: So if you don't get the job you want do you come back into the office open the persons door and start throwing out racial slurs and curse words and threaten them? Yeah I bet you don't because you would be in the slammer for harassment and threat of intent to harm and hate speech. And that's in real life. "B-But its just a game!" 1. if its just a game then why are you loosing your shit so much and 2. there are probably crazy people who would go and shoot someone and their family over a game. Who's to say that you wont when you tell this person that and you are obviously angry and irrational over a game?

CURSEÐ REVENANT1 votes

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there are probably crazy people who would go and shoot someone and their family over a game.

If a person gives you their address and says something along the lines of "come here and fight me (insert insult)." Wouldn't you say that was kind of their fault?

[sg-miss-fortune]

OniZetsu6661 votes

[{quoted}](name= CURSEÐ REVENANT,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FsTafa3M,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T18:27:40.488+0000)

If a person gives you their address and says something along the lines of "come here and fight me (insert insult)." Wouldn't you say that was kind of their fault?

[sg-miss-fortune]

True but there is more than one way to peel a banana. And it would be a particularity easy banana if you use the same username for everything. [slayer-jinx-wink]

HalcyonDweller2 votes

"Instructions unclear, now I've made a post lying that my account was compromised." - toxic players.

The Space Cowboy2 votes

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CURSEÐ REVENANT3 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Space Cowboy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FsTafa3M,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-06-05T18:22:02.337+0000)

I thought this would be about the orange man in the White House...Urgot skin concept btw?

That "orange man in the white house" is going to go down in history as one of the best leaders this country has ever had.

The Space Cowboy5 votes

Only if Russia writes our history books lol. He’ll go down as Nixon 2.0

CURSEÐ REVENANT1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Space Cowboy,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FsTafa3M,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T18:59:08.989+0000)

Only if Russia writes our history books lol. He’ll go down as Nixon 2.0

What is so wrong that he has done? And the Russia thing is over. That horse has been beaten enough.

"Innocent until proven guilty." Unless you are Trump then you are automatically guilty by default I guess.

Anyways I am not going to turn this into a political topic. If you want to talk about it further feel free to PM me.

The Space Cowboy5 votes

For instance he kept his family in charge of his business instead of a blind trust, rented out his properties to foreign diplomats trying to buy influence above market value, and misrepresented it. Obstruction of justice, abuses of executive power, racism, fast tracking the Iranians nuclear program from ten years out to now, lying daily, attempts to roll back environmental regulations, removing key banking reforms designed to prevent future crashes, bloating the deficit with tax cuts without budget cuts, allowing net neutrality to die, bullying political enemies and the free press, campaign finance crimes, and ruining the English language on Twitter. Just a few things came to mind. But there are fine people on both sides lol.

3TWarrior1 votes

technically, was net neutrality ever decided on? the vote that was "won" was a vote for it to be a "bill" to be voted on again...

also, the "free press" have used quite a few dirty tactics in favor of their own political agenda including with this election and presidency

The Space Cowboy1 votes

A lot of comments have been made by the prez about removing protection for journalists. He wants British style libel laws. He also bars the press from numerous events.

Edit: I didn’t address your comment about net neutrality until I could verify what’s what. Basically the rules are repealed but there will be public comment and administrative reviews. So no vote in Congress. There will be lots of feedback then the fcc can ignore it and finally kill the open and free decentralized internet and the innovation it fosters.

Aneirin3 votes

[sg-miss-fortune]

ModPeriscope1 votes

For everyone in this thread, please adhere to the Universal rules: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4LgZ2EwM-universal-rules

In regards to political/social topics: Politics are not to be discussed on the boards, as these posts are not only entirely unrelated to League but tend to get far off topic from the OP.

LordGeovanni2 votes

Lots of those chat logs don't even look ban worthy. some do but those arent really contested. lots don't. Riot doesnt even have hard rules so they punish you when they feel like but many times you feel like people you report for saying alot worse dont get banned

Troll for Trump2 votes

Ah. Ye olde white knight circlejerk thread.

fatherdarius1 votes

What does that even mean? LOL

Troll for Trump1 votes

People blaming and harassing "toxic people". Basically being toxic jerks to the "toxic people." Also often followed by an echo chamber of players saying how easy it is to not be toxic and patting each other on the back.

fatherdarius1 votes

oh ic

CURSEÐ REVENANT1 votes

{quoted}

Unless your account had been unauthorized access then that is a different case.

It isn't though. This happened to me before and I had more proof than was even remotely necessary and I was told by a Riot twatwaffle that it did not matter who was on the account that it still created a toxic environment for the people in the game and that the ban will not be lifted.

This was after about a month coming off of a 14 day ban. I was reformed, I did not break any rules even slightly. Then when I logged on after going on vacation I had a perm ban from during that vacation when I didn't even have my computer on me.

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

Thanks, I needed some entertainment I just realized i can go read Player behaviour sub-board. [slayer-jinx-wink] cheers

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Chat logs should not be used to ban people's accounts. Riot should enforce a stricter chat filter or outright remove the chat if they don't want people thinking they can say whatever they want.

The "rules" actually state Riot can ban your account without reason, and make no mention of the Summoner's code in that line of the agreement. So don't be so quick to be happy that people are getting their money stolen for hurting someone's feelings.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

{quoted}

Chat logs should not be used to ban people's accounts. Riot should enforce a stricter chat filter or outright remove the chat if they don't want people thinking they can say whatever they want.

The "rules" actually state Riot can ban your account without reason, and make no mention of the Summoner's code in that line of the agreement. So don't be so quick to be happy that people are getting their money stolen for hurting someone's feelings.

Literally the very next line:

You understand and agree that using the Riot Services comes with the risk that your account may be terminated or suspended and that, whenever you use the Riot Services, you’ll bear this risk in mind and always conduct yourself appropriately.

And of course the section right before:

2.1.3. The Tribunal®. The Tribunal® system allows our community of users to police the compliance of other users with the “Summoner’s Code,” which outlines the principles of ideal game play behavior, as well as with our other policies. Community members, including you, may submit descriptions of activity and actions of certain users within the Game, and collectively determine if that particular user was in compliance with our policies. If The Tribunal determines, in its sole discretion, that you have violated one of our policies, we may suspend or terminate your account on behalf of the community.

Tl;dr Yes they can, and the appropriate conduct is set forth in the summoners code.

Karunamon1 votes

Chat logs should not be used to ban people's accounts.

People should not be expected to suffer toxicity just so they can effectively communicate in a team game.

The "rules" actually state Riot can ban your account without reason, and make no mention of the Summoner's code in that line of the agreement.

Know how I know you haven't actually read the ToS? I'd paste the relevant line, but Snapp2Kill already did. Section 2.1.3.

3TWarrior1 votes

but the tribunal system is no longer in effect and the automated system handles almost everything?

there was even a post stating that in order to get a manual review, the system had to mark a user as being flagged in 500 games and that the system relied almost entirely on wikipedia entries

ModPrandine

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but the tribunal system is no longer in effect and the automated system handles almost everything?

Correct. The Instant Feedback System (which is based partly on the Tribunal) handles most things now, though manual reviews are still occasionally done.

there was even a post stating that in order to get a manual review, the system had to mark a user as being flagged in 500 games and that the system relied almost entirely on wikipedia entries

Whoever said that either misheard/read or was lying, because there's no way that's true.

P.S. Ho fellow Dominion player.

3TWarrior1 votes

it shall be my icon...forever XD

and dunno, I didn't bother to private message but the person apparently worked with a group of people using throwaway accounts and scripted chat responses to test what the system marks for immediate ban and other simple things

now that I think about it, it seems a bit silly, but they did mention in their post that they verified the 500 count by getting a support employee to slip in a conversation in addition to their own data of games played versus consequences and such. Of course, without a record of that or even an idea of what topic this conversation was brought up in, it's just a memory

ModPrandine

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it shall be my icon...forever XD

Yeah, I unfortunately never got it because I rarely played Dominion PvP as I mostly just stick to Co-op Vs. Ai. On top of that because of the way Riot handled the distribution of the icon I couldn't have gotten it either way since they only counted PvP Dominion games played before the announcement, which was just ridiculous if you ask me.

and dunno, I didn't bother to private message but the person apparently worked with a group of people using throwaway accounts and scripted chat responses to test what the system marks for immediate ban and other simple things

now that I think about it, it seems a bit silly, but they did mention in their post that they verified the 500 count by getting a support employee to slip in a conversation in addition to their own data of games played versus consequences and such. Of course, without a record of that or even an idea of what topic this conversation was brought up in, it's just a memory

It still just sounds fishy to me so I would just take what they said with a grain of salt if I were you.

3TWarrior1 votes

I know right? I was afraid I wasn't going to get it. The announcement made it sound like you had to play 100 games in the month or so given. Though I think I played a ridiculous amount against bots as well as the pvp

I really don't understand why they did not focus on it but I guess it's less exciting than storming a base. It had quite a few of the values the game has been working toward ( fast games, team oriented, a meta only established for the h igher levels of play for it, objectives have meaning, etc)

probably the only champs that didn't enjoy the mode were scaling champs(such as nasus or veigar)

ModPrandine

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I know right? I was afraid I wasn't going to get it. The announcement made it sound like you had to play 100 games in the month or so given. Though I think I played a ridiculous amount against bots as well as the pvp

I really don't understand why they did not focus on it but I guess it's less exciting than storming a base. It had quite a few of the values the game has been working toward ( fast games, team oriented, a meta only established for the h igher levels of play for it, objectives have meaning, etc)

probably the only champs that didn't enjoy the mode were scaling champs(such as nasus or veigar)

I think part of the problem stems from Riot's lack of actual support for the mode and the false promises made to update it, not to mention the high amount of bot accounts in co-op vs. ai. I also think the unreleased trailer for the mode also hampered its appeal. They just spent so much time focusing on Summoner's Rift that they neglected the other modes to the point where they didn't want to support it anymore. Now I did try Definitely Not Dominion but didn't enjoy it very much due to games being pretty much decided at the first team fight at the center objective most of the time (i.e. whoever won that first team fight often went on to win the game).

Hopefully they'll bring it back one day as a permanent game mode with fairly regular updates but I doubt it. At any rate we should probably continue this conversation in another thread, one specifically talking about Dominion, to avoid cluttering this one up more ;).

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Maybe people don't realize that they have done something wrong. I have never played a game with rules nearly as strict as Riots, so when I was banned for calling someone "bad", I didn't think I had done anything wrong. Its unrealistic to expect everyone to know the rules, especially when Riot is not clear with them.

Sir Tutl

I just received a 14 day ban and I accept the punishment (because I have no choice). I was super toxic, but I got in touch with a riot employee to ask why my first offense was 14 days and not simply a chat restriction. He explained that this was because I used one homophobic slur at the beginning of the game after getting invaded, not because of all the hurtful things I said that actually got me reported. The people that reported me simply got lucky that I used "%%%" early in the game. I don't agree with that logic, permanently mute me but don't ever ban someone for speaking harshly. Maybe I don't understand something but I would love to hear thoughts. I get banned for one word, but inters and afks go virtually unpunished (except for the joke of leaver buster: 20 min before 5 games)

Sir Tutl1 votes

It was actually 2 times sorry.

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