Just had a team rally against me when my support almost had as much cs as me

Great Muta··7 votes·667 views

I picked Jinx. Our support said she was autofilled support and was not happy. She said she had no supports and picked Annie. I didn't say a thing as it can work.

Immediately, we are tied at 6 CS a piece. Annie was hitting more minions than me. I pinged to stop and pinged and pinged and pinged. It became 20 CS for Jinx to 16 CS to Annie. I tried to leave lane. Mid told me to gtfo while top asked for my report. After all of this, you would think Annie would stop right? Nope. She kept going. We were then tied around 26cs a piece and I gave up and went support Jinx.

This is when the team started to get really mad. Annie defended her actions saying "I only took 16 cs to your 20", completely missing the point. The rest of the team rallied with her as I tried to explain why it's important for the ADC to get CS. When I asked the team why the ADC needed CS, the team would not answer except for "but she only took 16 cs".

I gave up and went full support Jinx. Sightstone and all. The team then got more mad at me while asking the other team for reports. I didn't use one swear word or say one insult to anyone. But my game was going to be ruined. Annie then started complaining, saying "Jinx won't farm".

Bronze reports have to be taken with a grain of salt at times. These people don't understand the game and could not fathom why an ADC would be upset at the support taking all of the CS.

Of course we lost, as Jinx support didn't work out, though I went like 2-1-4. Hoping I don't get banned, but really, what can an adc do without any cs when all other lanes told me to go away?

22 Comments

sheldonbunny6 votes

Any "support" going item 1056 for starter is intentionally causing problems in the lane. She was supposed to start item 3303 or item 3301 . While I definitely think she was in the wrong, going full support didn't help you or your team at all, nor you trying to not get cs. Personally i'd have done my best to farm and reported her after the game.

Flaherty3 votes

Since it's a one time thing nothing is going to happen to you so at least there's that. I don't think you are in the wrong and hopefully stuff like that doesn't happen to you in the future.

Great Muta2 votes

I've seriously just not been using chat and muting everyone because I don't want my account banned. I believe I said one line total the last game.

It was a really bad experience. Not only did the team defend what was going to ruin the game, the team then rallied against me when I gave the support what she wanted - all of the cs.

OneMustFall2 votes

Well at least you didn't tilt on the off-meta pick, I feel like we're making progress here. But yeah, you'll see that in Bronze. People don't understand the importance of gold on the ADC. 20 lost CS equates to over 400 gold. That can be the difference between getting a Pickaxe or B.F. Sword and then people wonder why your ADC loses trades when the other ADC has better items cause you wanted to take some farm, which winds up hurting you both.

Narvuntien2 votes

With some AD, perhaps in your runes, and certainly in your items you should be able to out last hit any support.

It is annoying that the support is taking the CS, they are wrong to do so but you don't really have a choice but deal with it. Your allies will never be perfect and will often hamper you like that. Ask them to stop, but when they don't you can't let it tilt you. You cannot control them only how you respond to it.

Switching to other lanes is just making it worse.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

If Annie was maxing Q, you can't compete with them for last-hits. It deals far more damage than a single autoattack from an ADC until the ADC has a couple items.

They won't run out of mana either since her Q will refund mana if it last-hits the target.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

It's a flawed idea that every support is supposed to bend over for cs. Your cs may have been less than where it could have been but your team's gold wasn't off. As you said... you could have made it work. You just chose not to. Honestly... annie has a hard time csing. If you can't pull the cs out from under her you're probably not that good and should use the game to practice.

I just got flamed all game for that and other things a "support" isn't supposed to do. But I finished the game with the best KDA by far, max build, secured every objective, had the highest kill participation on the team, lowest cs and lowest deaths. And I took a few minions along the way. Why? Because later in the game it's almost impossible for a support to cs. Because I had to carry a km that couldn't play well at all.

Your post is egotistical garbage from what I can tell. You're not a pretty princess that's god's gift to the rift. Earn your spot. Work with your team. Don't tilt.

OneMustFall3 votes

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It's a flawed idea that every support is supposed to bend over for cs. Your cs may have been less than where it could have been but your team's gold wasn't off. As you said... you could have made it work. You just chose not to. Honestly... annie has a hard time csing. If you can't pull the cs out from under her you're probably not that good and should use the game to practice.

I just got flamed all game for that and other things a "support" isn't supposed to do. But I finished the game with the best KDA by far, max build, secured every objective, had the highest kill participation on the team, lowest cs and lowest deaths. And I took a few minions along the way. Why? Because later in the game it's almost impossible for a support to cs. Because I had to carry a km that couldn't play well at all.

Your post is egotistical garbage from what I can tell. You're not a pretty princess that's god's gift to the rift. Earn your spot. Work with your team. Don't tilt.

You put your ADC behind by taking farm. The whole idea of support and the gold items intended for supports is so you don't take CS. You can get away with it in low elo but the higher you go the more the opposing ADC is gonna punish your ADC for being behind in gold. ADC is the most important position to have gold on. You putting your ADC behind IS the reason why later on they aren't as effective as they could have been.

If you want to get farm, then pick another role besides support. Support is there to help your ADC get ahead, not put him behind.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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You put your ADC behind by taking farm. The whole idea of support and the gold items intended for supports is so you don't take CS. You can get away with it in low elo but the higher you go the more the opposing ADC is gonna punish your ADC for being behind in gold. ADC is the most important position to have gold on. You putting your ADC behind IS the reason why later on they aren't as effective as they could have been.

If you want to get farm, then pick another role besides support. Support is there to help your ADC get ahead, not put him behind.

You're wrong in most circumstances.

S0kaX3 votes

Um, support main talking here: A support isn't supposed to take the farm, if you steal farm you might as well go feed because it would have the same impact.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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Um, support main talking here: A support isn't supposed to take the farm, if you steal farm you might as well go feed because it would have the same impact.

This simply isn't true.

S0kaX2 votes

I'm starting to think you're a troll

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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I'm starting to think you're a troll

Your opinion, like most people's is irrelevant.

S0kaX2 votes

And now it's confirmed

Troll for Trump1 votes

annie has a hard time csing.

Her Q ?

StigtriX1 votes

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You're wrong in most circumstances.

How so? Care to elaborate?

Have you ever seen supports steal farm in high ELO games or LCS? I haven't... If the other ADC gets BF first and maybe an even bigger item advantage because the support consistently steals a considerable amount of farm, your ADC will be outfarmed, outpoked and left in the dust. Refusing to buy Sightstone to get ward coverage is considered trolling in itself because you refuse to play your role and help the team. Just watch some pro games and learn about how important ward coverage is, and how big of an impact Sightstone has on that. I have looked at the match, and Annie did not buy a Sightstone, but finished two offensive items instead. No wonder the opposing jungler had so many assists with "free" ganks and next to no defense bot. Annie is the one being selfish, and I simply cannot fathom how you can twist this around to paint the OP as selfish...

Your argumentation is flawed, and when you get confronted you just brush it off, rather than being constructive. Please be constructive and elaborate on your view. As pointed out earlier: support items don't promote farming, rather they promote helping the ADC get farm.

Short analysis:

  • Ancient Coin - Rewards support for not dealing killing blows to minions (can it be written any clearer?)
  • Relic Shield - Rewards support for dealing killing blows to minions when an ally is near - and only when the item's passive is up - the floating orbs (needed for the bonus effect)
  • Spellthief's Edge - Promotes poking enemy players and structures. Punishes killing minions (the passive is disabled for 12 sec)

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If Annie was maxing Q, you can't compete with them for last-hits. It deals far more damage than a single autoattack from an ADC until the ADC has a couple items.

They won't run out of mana either since her Q will refund mana if it last-hits the target.

Yes! Someone actually understands how easy it is for Annie to do this.

S0kaX1 votes

Haters will say "BUY WHY SHOULDN'T SUPPORTS TAKE CS YOU SKRUB?"

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