Boards›Player Behavior

As Promised, a List of all the Stuff you can get punished for/All League Ingame Rules Listed

Eternal Torment··55 votes·5,152 views

Hello everyone!

I just wanted to point out that this one post took me over 6 hours to make, since i had to search and Reread the ToS, then my Android internet kept lagging since I wrote such a massive text on a phone, so I would REALLY welcome it if people at least would read to the very end since I literally cramped all 10 fingers for you, the community.

First to introduce the Idea of this post.

I made a few days ago a request on the boards for someone to maybe create a Post that could possibly be put into a Sticker for the Board section that includes any and all reasons you can be punished for ingame. While the Post got many upvotes and a majority of Agreements, I still see that people are rather holding back on the Idea itself. So, keeping my own word now, I decided to take Things into my own hands and write this List down for the Community.

But first, I want to put out some DISCLAIMERS.

  • Disclaimer A: This Post, while researched, is not Garuanteed to be 100% accurately imputted or worded, meaning I am open to corrections or additions to anything I Might have missed. I Myself do not know every single dot and Comma of the ToS either, but I think having read them thoroughly, I can confidently claim I am Aware of the rules, and You should be so too.

  • Disclaimer B: This list will be ranked from Weakest to worst in Terms of the Impact it has on People and yourself, the gravity of the raw felony aswell as the possibly Punishments it can Strike you with. I will do my best to List everything you can be Banned for in such order, But as put in Disclaimer A, I Might make a mistake aswell, If such occurs, you are free to comment below any additions to this list. BUT NOTE, SUCH MUST BE FACT AND NOT AN OPINION, MEANING YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A SOURCE OF PROOF WHEN YOU WANT THIS LIST UPDATED. THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL THREAD ONLY, SO NO BIAST ALLOWED.

  • Disclaimer C: Note that any and all of those rules disregard the comfort of premades. Even if a Buddy or so is OK with what you say, others might not be and surely haven't been if you got reported for it. Meaning, whatever you read past this point can be (but is not obligatory to unless stated otherwise) seen as a no tolerance policy supported rule. What you can do and cannot has been firmly defined by Riot and breaking such for your own amusement Or stress-relief is struck with necessary measurements, in disregards to selective people's concerns.

  • Disclaimer D: Note that while all of These points are remarked as reasons for reporting someone, do mind me that those reports only have 1 line to explain what they cover. This Writing exists to fully extend the explanations of what those rules cover to the last Detail.

Thank you for reading this far.

Now, to begin with the Listing and an detailed Explanation as to What could said felony look like with some examples both obvious and rather unexpected forms aswell.

#spreading negative conducts/General Toxicity

This is the first, and least offensive Thing (Compared to what follows) you can verbally commit in this specific List. Negative Conduct means, but is not restricted to only:

  • Providing Rude comments.

This one is something many times people underestimate and stereotype about. Making comments on someone of even the slightest negative nature without giving rational constructive support behind it Counts as being negative to your teammates. Stuff like "You suck" "lol so bad" and even "plz dont play X champ again" etc. ALL count as being negative because they do nothing other than make someone feel bad about their playing. You can always word things better so you do not have to be rude while trying to help.

Such also includes side-comments like pushing the blame on someone when an enemy Mocks you.

One example: Enemy MasterYi : Ez botlane double kill You, the ADC: Yeah, Thresh never gives lantern.

While this particular scenario is mostly known as a meme, it does not change that this can, and likely will, be taken with seriosity since you still shamed someone by putting fault onto them.

This point also covers lesser means of labeling someone as below the average and equal human standart, like calling people a noob and stupid.

  • Giving up on a motivated team.

This is likely the most arguable point in this conversation, but there is a reason why Riot added this to the list of negative attitude's list. Giving up often results in you not being motivated within the game, causing you to throw or commit beginners mistakes you likely shame others for doing.

When you give up, you essentially hold the game hostage for other people, because you force them to do what you alone want through sabotage, which on the sidenote can also strike you for Trolling/Griefing.

Giving up in reports is mostly including verbal comments like "ff or im afk" but also actions such as not leaving fountain because you want "the game to end faster." which really just means you refuse teamplay on purpose.

Aside from that being threat/Trolling (Depending on what you do) It is also spreading further negativity because you drag a whole team down into your own personal pity-hole.

Having said this, moving to the point I addressed a fair lot on just the previous one:

#Trolling

Trolling is a very abused rule people always try to take Advantage off in attempts to get people banned because they biasedly dislike them.

However, trolling as the rules state are most likely in at least one point different then what you understand on it.

Trolling, or more Originally known as Griefing, describes you purposely sabotaging the game or it's experience for your own teammates and Allies. Such Includes, in totally listed:

  • Not saving them on purpose

  • Running down and feeding enemies

  • Promoting the loss of a game in other means, such as not interrupting a siege

  • giving up and holding the game hostage on your team

  • Baiting an Ally's death. (Tahm Kench W or Anivia wall for examples). And yes, while Riot may not be able to always catch you Throwing your adc into the enemy 5 man team with a Kench W thanks to the automatic system not knowing to differ accident from purpose, do note that an overly excessive amount of reports for trolling can result in Manual Reviews, which in turn can get you permanently banned on first strike, IF the trolling is just that extreme.

#Incorrect/Inproper usernames

The Most controversial Point of discussion is Usernames. While there are some cases where having indicating names is Arguably OK, having stuff like "Cancercuck" as your Name is a definitive No-go. What this Rule covers are Any and all usernames that include Indications to Insults, racism, sexism or other topics described as Black Humor aswell as Impersonations of others.

The last rule includes you telling people you are some Diamond 1 X champ main and are smurfing, but then take a random Diamond 1 account and say this is you. When you wanna rename yourself, make it worth something appropriate, because when Riot Finds you and strikes you, not only is your Name changed to something basic, boring and unattractive, you get NOTHING refunded if you bought the namechange with IP/RP.

#Indirect Insulting

This is a very unstable point when it Comes to discussing what exactly it covers up, but you are under no circumstances allowed to Insult and slurr against anyone, not even indirectly, through puns per say.

Indirect Insults can include comments that on first note seem like jokes or memes, but are specifically directed to someone you want to feel bad. That can include comments such as: "You're just like Syndra, always playing with balls." Yeah I know, this one sounds awfully humorous to the majority of the Readers here, but if you put more attention to the content and that it is directed to a specific Person you can tell that this one is insulting because it makes a sexual remark addressing someone as sl*tty, and even if it was creatively hidden with Humor, it is an insulting comment regardless that can and will have you striked.

Another point this topic covers is negatively addressing anyone if you performed better than them. Stuff like "gg ez" for the purpose of a Taunt, or more direct stuff like "get f*cked" all count as indirect means to Insult someone because you shame them as lesser than yourself and also try to provoke them into tilting.

One Thing people NEVER expect to be on here is Naming. If you had a bad game with someone who did not perform so well, then the next game somehow by luck, or coincidence, get matched with that same Person again, you commit an offense of Naming and Shaming if you badmouth him by either calling out or lying about how "he sucks hard, mute and report."

This specific scenario mostly applies in late nights, when the servers are underpopulated and you have like 15 or so people playing ranked, where meeting the same Person again can be more likely possible. Even If the Person is a troll, you are still not allowed to publicly Name them out.

This one, last but not least, also covers up attempts to shame someone by falsely picturing an Event or moment within the game.

Example: Enemy survives with 2 HP You: So lucky Enemy: Lol no you just suck

#Direct insulting/ Vulgar slurring

Quick Note: From here on all following addressed Points count as an absolute No-tolerance Policy. What this means is, that these rules apply always, no matter the situation and no matter how justified they seem. Remember, killing a rapist is still murder, even if you are a hero to your people. And this logic applies to any and all rules after this one.

As for the rule itself: This is self-explanatory.

Riot Games themselves even made a tooltip about it in the loading Screen, saying word by word. "Just because the Chat filters Vulgar expressions does not mean you can challenge it."

What they mean with this is that just because "You are Shit" gets the "Shit" Censored does not mean you are safe by playing around the Censorship and writing "You are Sh1t". The Automatic Punishment System can adapt and add words to the collection of Things to scan for when inspecting chat logs of people aswell, so not only do you pathetically attempt to Play Riot, you in turn also make them smarter on how to find your kind of toxic people. Talk about backfiring.

And to the main point. You are under no circumstances given permission to insult people. Insults are indirectly but also directly covered, telling people "You are shit" "fuck you" and Co. all accounts as insulting your opposite. And even the seemingly harmless choices of words like "Jackass" fall under this category.

#Verbal Harrassment

Just as Insulting is not allowed, harrassment is not either. While a lot of people may think insulting and Harrassment may fall under the same term, they do as for the global point of Reporting.

However, do note, harrassment is not just overexcessive insulting. It can also mean Promoting reports on someone, Making allies and enemies gang up on you with negativity, Threats of other Kind such as "i will hack you" and the false prescribtion of power, meaning you telling someone stuff like "enjoy last game before your ban".

Harrassment, in short, also covers abusive expressions and bullying within the game. When you try to express false power to make someone feel bad, do what you want or just want to pretend you are some self-righteous badass-wannabe you make yourself guilty of harrassment because none of These Things can be done without someone else's expenses.

#Discrimation

This topic covers all the Big Bads, all the Things you get perma-banned for on first offense.

  • Sexist Comments:

Stuff like "Shut up Woman." "Tiny dicked cuck" and stuff all go under Sexist Insults and other insulting ways of sexual remarkings meant to harm one another.

This point also covers insulting Homosexuality and any Gender-covered Topics. Calling people Gay because of something is highly offensive no matter how humorously taken.

  • Racial Slurring:

This means any and all Thing that Insult another Distinctly different part of the Human Population, either by Nation, Religion or Skin colour. Such Insults mean either direct slurrings such as "Ni**er" aswell as indirect offenses like saying "All french are toxic feeders".

Latter one seems so common and stereotypical, but it is still a racist remark because you shame an entire nation's Population. And while yes, French might be a Little more Prominent on toxicity, EVERY PLACE has toxic people. Just because riven Players are more famous for being toxic does not make them the only ones.

  • Bigotry:

Any and all forms of degration that serves the purpose of falsely making someone feel like something below humankind.

Such Includes, but is not restricted to Comments like "Slut, Subhuman Ape, Bastard Child" aswell as the promotion of Degration such as telling people stuff like "Get cancer" "I fucked your dead grandmother" "Worthless Piece of shit" "kys(Kill yourself in short)". Or in short the kinda Things People most joke about when toxicity becomes a topic.

  • Other specific Means of Discrimination:

Since this is LoL, there are cases where people are discriminated solely for what they Play or how they Play. Such means comments like "All yasuos are Cancer" "Only Special retards Play Garen" ETC. Any Kind of means to discriminate that is not listed above.

#Account-Sharing/Boosting

Often argued upon because of moral Points of view. Account-sharing means ANY form or means of having your account handled by anyone other than you. Such means stuff like:

  • Giving away your Acc

  • Selling your acc

  • "My brother played on my ACC when i was not home, i had no idea"

  • Boosting yourself by sharing it to skilled Players.

Sometimes it happens that an account is Compromised due to you clicking on any link given by any friend, losing it through a malware attack can get your account restored, but ONLY then, and even then it can only be saved before it is permanently banned. Once the banhammer strikes you can pick a god and pray.

Having said that, it goes without saying that you do not click any random link send to you, which, just like anyhow else makes it your own fault.

#Scripting/3rd Party Advantages

While being the most rarely seen Thing, Scripting does exist, and so do the people guilty of using them. Scripting does not JUST mean having stuff like an Skillshot-aimbot, it can also mean anything that gives you Advantages by overwriting codes or positively influencing your game, examples are Programms that change your cursors looks and sizes.

This point is often debated on, but Having a different Cursor by outside programming not only is actual overwriting of programm codes/hacking on the side, but also Cheating, since you give yourself an Advantage by changing something that is globally set for EVERYONE with no exceptions.

Changes within the system that are not from Riot themselves is in any and all forms and means prohibited, and depending on what you changed can also be accounted for as hacking which can result in a Lawsuit.

I Hope this list will, even if only a Little bit, help people out on what they should not do, and/or serve as a reminder on where punished Players have been wrong and why.

Edit 1:

  • I corrected the Rude Comments Point to further match what it Means thanks to a Correction from The Djinn, PB Sub mod (I believe). Thank you for the help :D

  • I removed some censored expressions because they screwed up the writing, had randomly italic sentences that started and ended within a word.

Peace Out Eternal Torment

95 Comments

ModThe Djinn21 votes

Providing Rude comments without Constructive assistance.

Note that providing rude comments WITH constructive criticism can get you punished as well. There's simply no need for the rude comment.

Compare:

  • "Thresh, you suck. You shouldn't move right before you hook like that, because it's telegraphing your intent."
  • "Thresh: a tip. You'll land more hooks if you don't move right before you hook. It's telegraphing your intent."

The rudeness is 100% unnecessary.

Eternal Torment3 votes

Agreed. Thought my point was to address that you shouldn't be rude, but helpful instead, Rudeness shouldn't appear even if connected to help.

I will update that once i am home where my browser won't lag with the fury of a thousand pepe memes

Stoopid Blonde9 votes

Thresh dont move before you hook it gives away your intent.

This is bannable, that is a fact. Simply put you either speak to everyone like they are 3 years old and prone to horrific melt downs or you get banned.

ModThe Djinn12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stoopid Blonde,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-09-09T23:58:08.811+0000)This is bannable, that is a fact. Simply put you either speak to everyone like they are 3 years old and prone to horrific melt downs or you get banned.

I can 100% assure you that it isn't bannable, as I have been communicating in that fashion since Pre-Season 1 and have never been chat restricted. :)

Rainfall2 votes

its invalid unless you pull out a 25 slideshow presentation on why they are bad at the game .

Dani El Pezglobo1 votes

Not saying this is a bad idea , but i have learb dat sometimes u just dont have to say anything.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}

Not saying this is a bad idea , but i have learb dat sometimes u just dont have to say anything.

Well yes. Saying nothing is always an option. :)

Green Spade1 votes

I think its bad tho that more people are unwilling to help their team out by pointing out reality due to the fear of riot punishing them then otherwise, I think thats how games evolve, how people as a community get better when folks point things out to them.. but hey thats just my toxic negative nazi unpopular opinion right? Somebody punch me and call the thought police

TrulyBland1 votes

I think its bad tho that more people are unwilling to help their team out by pointing out reality due to the fear of riot punishing them then otherwise

But that's not on Riot. The system doesn't punish people who give advice, it punishes people who are rude to others. If somebody said "Damn, all those stupid traffic rules. I feel like the only way to not get a ticket is to not drive a car at all", you would not blame the traffic rules. You would consider that person to be a horrible driver who obviously cannot understand how to drive their car without breaking any rules.

The same applies here: If people actually cared more about giving advice than feeling superior and putting down others, they would learn how to give that advice without being rude. If they don't and they just entirely stop using chat, I dare say nothing of value was lost. Nobody is going to listen to some raging stranger's advice on the internet, anyway.

Green Spade2 votes

How is it not on riot? Toxic and negative are undefined so they can apply it to any situation.

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then the person who is observing gets to decide what is beautiful. A common saying is "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," which means beauty doesn't exist on its own but is created by observers.

Negative and toxic are the same subjective things, they require someones opinion of what they are looking at, what is beauty to one may not to be to the other, what is toxic or negative to one, may not be to another.

This means the playerbase is too scared of riot punishing them to do what they would do in any other game, point out reality of what is happening in the game either player actions, lack of actions or any other part of the game. This is NOT to say flaming is okay, racist or sexist remarks or even personal attacks, these are ALL NOT OKAY. However any speak about the game, a players actions or lack of actions is legitimate team speak.

Now the problem gets in when riot staff looks at it, they can look at it however they want and reality doesn't matter. This means when they get your one sided conversation out of context they don't see things like playful banter or what the other side of the conversation is, they just see you saying whatever your saying to yourself, so playful banter or pointing out a reality in the game is often taken in a negative light due to its one sided out of context nature and staff being a punishment filter squad looking for sometihng to punish instead of a help desk looking for a way to solve the problem so this situation doesn't happen again.... I guess that is preserving their job? Not sure what to say about it honestly.

These folks skim so hard that I think its impossible for them to legitimately be able to tell what is negative or toxic when again they are looking at a one sided conversation taken out of context, while looking purely for a way to post guilt on the player instead of trying to understand the situation the player was in.

Want an example?

Below is riot staff being unable to tell the difference between the words "ME" and "another player" or "you" since I was punished for calling for a report on another player while we can easily see that the word I used was "ME" and that in no way directs the statement towards any other player but myself. Since calling for reports is punishable cuz its griefing another player, it seems crazy that I am punished not only by having to endure a game with team mates calling for a report on me, but I also get to be punished for jokingly repeating them that I should be reported cuz riot can't tell the difference between ME and a statment directed towards my team.

Twisted Spade July 27, 2017 23:00

I have had you guys close my previous ticket telling me this has been addressed but that is not true

You have addressed the issue of "a player calling for a report on another player"

But I am NOT doing that.

I am repeating that another player has called for a report one ME

Is it verse the rules now to mockingly call for a report on yourself after someone else says it to you, about you, in all chat?

"[6:46] [All] Twisted Spade (Fiddlesticks): yes report me" (01:37:44 AM) Twisted Spade: agent 007 pointed that out as reportable

I was just re reading this... And the previous staff member for my other ticket replied to mas as if they thought I was calling for a report on someone else?

Obviously they are confused, I never called for a report on another player, so it seems silly that I should be punished as if I did.

This is a reply to someone typing in all chat to report ME and I replyed, mocking them, like report me for what? report me for this trolling nid stealing my cs and griefing me? Thats reportable now, to repeat what they said, about reporting ME? Saying to report myself is punishable?

Iron Wing July 28, 2017 15:13

Hey there,

I'm Iron Wing from Player Support. I see you've spoken to a few other agents, and now you've got another question. I'll try to address that new question, however I won't be able to contest or debate the chat restriction on this account.

In general, calling for reports for anyone is discouraged, and is usually drawing attention to negativity. Usually when I see this on other accounts, it's pulling focus away from the game, and directly on a disagreement between team members. This is distracting, and fans the flames in chat. Responding to others negativity in any way other than muting, is dangerous. It's far too easy to respond in such a way that can lead you to being punished as well.

If you have any other questions let me know.

Iron Wing Riot Games Player Support

TrulyBland1 votes

You can try to argue about subjectivity all you want, but you yourself admit that you were mocking the other player with what you said. [Edit: Besides, I still strongly doubt that you were banned only for that one line, no matter how much you seem to obsess over it.]

This has also literally nothing to do with helping out your team.

"Legitimate team speak" as you call it, is not generally punishable. Period.

AriCei1 votes

Yeah I don't know why they even have a section for asking them about these bans- no matter which agent you get, they spout the same generic out of context nonsense- I haven't ruled out them being bots. I don't know how many bans I got for this kind of bs, and it's always the same responses from them.

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Green Spade,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=0000000400000000,timestamp=2017-09-10T05:08:43.638+0000)

I think its bad tho that more people are unwilling to help their team out by pointing out reality due to the fear of riot punishing them then otherwise, I think thats how games evolve, how people as a community get better when folks point things out to them.. but hey thats just my toxic negative nazi unpopular opinion right? Somebody punch me and call the thought police

Define 'pointing out reality'

Green Spade1 votes

Any action from any player in game or about the game.

Am I saying flaming is okay? Obviously not.

Am I saying personal attacks are okay? Obviously not.

Am I saying racist or sexist comments are okay? Bet your ass its not okay.

Do I think any comment pointing out the legitimate actions or lack of actions or any part of the game is legitimate team speak? Of course.

I think its sad riot doesn't agree with me however.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Green Spade,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=0000000400000000,timestamp=2017-09-10T05:08:43.638+0000)

I think its bad tho that more people are unwilling to help their team out by pointing out reality due to the fear of riot punishing them then otherwise, I think thats how games evolve, how people as a community get better when folks point things out to them.. but hey thats just my toxic negative nazi unpopular opinion right? Somebody punch me and call the thought police

I fully agree that pointing out problems and offering advice is wonder...when done respectfully, constructively, and politely.

Green Spade1 votes

The problem is respectfully, constructively, and politely are all subjective words, they require a opinion of a beholder in order to exist. For example my opinion of what is constructive or polite might differ from yours and both of our opinions might differ from the next persons.

Since both toxic and negativity are undefined, this means they can be applied to any situation that the beholder wishes to apply them to, regardless of the reality of the situation. This situation is made even worse when you look at the fact that riot staff look at your conversation one sided as if your talking to yourself, this means everything your saying is taken out of context and if they choose to look at what your saying as negative or toxic, then since its undefined, it is then toxic or negative, whatever opinion they have to project upon you.

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then the person who is observing gets to decide what is beautiful. A common saying is "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," which means beauty doesn't exist on its own but is created by observers.

Want an example?

I was jokingly repeating that another player in game had called for a report on me, so I repeated "yes report me"

Yet I was punished as if I called for a report on another player and staff refused to respond to me with anything other then as if I was calling for a report on another player, since in their opinion that is somehow wrong since calling for a report on a team mate is griefing them.... so calling for a report on myself... is griefing myself.. So they are punishing me for self grief? Again reality doesn't matter here, nor does anything I have to say since they will skim it and then tell you what they think even if they don't properly read or understand what your asking.... And you expect these kinds of people to be able to dictate what is and isn't toxic or negative when they can't even read the difference between "ME" and "You or player x" to see that I wasn't calling for a report on another player? I mean they closed my help request after this claiming they addressed it and when I opened another one claiming it wasn't addressed? Guess what, they claimed that the previous staff already addressed it so they where not going to, as in they are not willing to look into it cuz someone else already looked at it wrong and replied in a wrong way.

Twisted Spade July 27, 2017 23:00

I have had you guys close my previous ticket telling me this has been addressed but that is not true

You have addressed the issue of "a player calling for a report on another player"

But I am NOT doing that.

I am repeating that another player has called for a report one ME

Is it verse the rules now to mockingly call for a report on yourself after someone else says it to you, about you, in all chat?

"[6:46] [All] Twisted Spade (Fiddlesticks): yes report me" (01:37:44 AM) Twisted Spade: agent 007 pointed that out as reportable

I was just re reading this... And the previous staff member for my other ticket replied to mas as if they thought I was calling for a report on someone else?

Obviously they are confused, I never called for a report on another player, so it seems silly that I should be punished as if I did.

This is a reply to someone typing in all chat to report ME and I replyed, mocking them, like report me for what? report me for this trolling nid stealing my cs and griefing me? Thats reportable now, to repeat what they said, about reporting ME? Saying to report myself is punishable?

Iron Wing July 28, 2017 15:13

Hey there,

I'm Iron Wing from Player Support. I see you've spoken to a few other agents, and now you've got another question. I'll try to address that new question, however I won't be able to contest or debate the chat restriction on this account.

In general, calling for reports for anyone is discouraged, and is usually drawing attention to negativity. Usually when I see this on other accounts, it's pulling focus away from the game, and directly on a disagreement between team members. This is distracting, and fans the flames in chat. Responding to others negativity in any way other than muting, is dangerous. It's far too easy to respond in such a way that can lead you to being punished as well.

If you have any other questions let me know.

Iron Wing Riot Games Player Support

Telephone Booth1 votes

Well, knowing that you are not the beholder, you should use your smarts to steer clear of anything borderline that could get your account restricted/banned. It really shouldn't be that hard. Thousands upon thousands have played this game with no punishments whatsoever. If you lack the intelligence to discern what could be seen as toxic, then perhaps you should not use chat anymore. Yeah it will hinder you, but that's just your unfortunate handicap. At least you don't have anything debilitating ...you just have troubles being neutral. Could be worse.

Also, that ticket response should help you a lot but you're just breezing through it as if what hes saying means nothing.

"Responding to others negativity in any way other than muting, is dangerous. It's far too easy to respond in such a way that can lead you to being punished as well."

Telephone Booth1 votes

Hey green spade... what happened to that Facebook griefer group thread you made? I went to respond to you today and it's gone :/

Green Spade1 votes

Its illegal to talk about on the forums so they banned me and removed the post since your "not alowed to tell people how to get around the rules"

Meaning they are fully aware its happening and going on but are unwilling to do anything about it, their plan seems to be if they punish anyone who speaks out about it then nobody can talk about it, then the problem seemingly doesn't exist to new people looking at the game.

Get em Tibbers2 votes

When was the last time you played League? Cause I can tell you 100% that telling a Trash player :

"Thresh: a tip. You'll land more hooks if you don't move right before you hook. It's telegraphing your intent."

WILL GET THEM TRIGGERED AND ALL OVER YOU FOR THE REMAINING OF THE ENTIRE GAME.

-You telling me how to play my role? -Ah there was the tresh expert -gtfo you're 0/3 and telling me what to do? -10x better than you m8 -atleast I land hooks as opposed to you(insert champion name)landing (insert champion skill) -shut it bronzie -ff at 20 this guy got me titled -(insert random mom joke/offensive regard)

All of which are perfectly day to day responses from players when you tell them such things as that.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Get em Tibbers,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2017-09-11T03:52:26.230+0000)

When was the last time you played League? Cause I can tell you 100% that telling a Trash player :

"Thresh: a tip. You'll land more hooks if you don't move right before you hook. It's telegraphing your intent."

WILL GET THEM TRIGGERED AND ALL OVER YOU FOR THE REMAINING OF THE ENTIRE GAME.

The last time I played League and offered advice to a player outside my premade would be yesterday night around 11pm EST. No anger or ranting followed.

However, if you're worried, you could always ask politely if they would be interested in advice. If they say no, don't tell them anything.

AriCei1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=000000050000,timestamp=2017-09-11T10:57:50.568+0000)

The last time I played League and offered advice to a player outside my premade would be yesterday night around 11pm EST. No anger or ranting followed.

However, if you're worried, you could always ask politely if they would be interested in advice. If they say no, don't tell them anything.

lucky guy...

Telephone Booth1 votes

Yeah they might retort back with something like that... that doesn't mean you can't tell em that tip. The trick is when they get snotty back, you fucking leave them alone. Don't get triggered like they did. Just tell them the hook thing, and if they are toxic in return, give a "Just saying" or nothing at all, and report them afterwards. People often will continue arguing saying something like "well you're the fucktard who did it" or "you play like a bronzie so I thought I'd help you out", and then get reported and come on here like "all I did was give him a tip and now I'm banned?!?!".

THAT will get you banned. Open your mind a little and drop the ego when dealing with strangers in game. You will see things more clearly and without bias towards yourself.

Clementine17 votes

Inappropiate name

rip me

SanKakU7 votes

IMO, there are quite a few problems with your post. 1- your ranking is way off. There's no sensible reason trolling should be a lesser offense than an offensive username, or even indirect insulting. 2- some of your examples don't make sense.

This one, last but not least, also covers up attempts to shame someone by falsely picturing an Event or moment within the game.

Example: Enemy survives with 2 HP You: So lucky Enemy: Lol no you just suck

Who is the supposedly toxic one here? If you ask me, they are both being petty brats. And naming someone from a previous game, if done untruthfully would be slander, which is completely different from an indirect insult. Do you even realize what an insult is? I'm starting to wonder. And I don't see what would be the point of denying people to talk about their previous game. Yeah, some people may not want to get distracted, and in that sense it could be somewhat disruptive, but as long as they aren't continually flooding the chat box with messages about their experience, I don't see what the problem is. There are other things you typed that seem odd in that section, but I'll leave them alone as they do not stand out as much for being wrong.

When it comes to discrimination, it took you until the end of the section to list a relevant form. The previous stuff is rather boring and I don't think particularly common in this game. As a result, you obviously missed out on some other times when players are discriminating against people in their chat. For example, they may think that Lucian shouldn't be played at middle lane, so you make a comment like "ADC in mid lulz" when he's died a few times without kills, assists, or any real help from teammates. Or someone complains about you trolling them, and your counter argument is "you're playing insert champion name" as if that gave you a license to pretend you're on different teams. That's one of the most common acts of discrimination in this game.

Hemodek3 votes

Wrong on so many levels. Playful banter back and forth is legit. However what you're suggesting is a /mute all mentality and not say anything EVER. ... I fail to understand your condesending attitude and how it gets past Rito's bannable targets. It's a game remember, and we enjoy using our adjetives to describe how feel.

Green Spade2 votes

Riot doesn't actually understand the diference between playful banter and "toxic" cuz toxic is a blanket term they use that is undefined for a reason, so they can apply it to any situation. Again when your comments are taken out of context by them seeing a one sided conversation of you talking to yourself, playful banter becomes one sided toxic conversation that you'll be punished for.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Ya it's sad that we can't banter with our friends using the in game chat because someone will get "offended" and report it. And yeah toxic is like "disorderly conduct"... Just an excuse for a cop to arrest you for basically anything.. even just being disrespectful.

Thank God for voice chat programs.

Liquid Poro 3 votes

Well when you say "I'm not toxic" but your chat logs does Action speak louder than word

What Is Smite3 votes

Well this proves my point to people who say account sharing is not bannable, IT IS now everyone and their brothers/sisters can go screw themselves when they jump into a ranked game that's way above their actual skill level

AriCei1 votes

[{quoted}](name=What Is Smite,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-09-10T00:16:00.101+0000)

Well this proves my point to people who say account sharing is not bannable, IT IS now everyone and their brothers/sisters can go screw themselves when they jump into a ranked game that's way above their actual skill level

and this comment which hurls insults at others has 3 upvotes in this thread- great.

What Is Smite1 votes

because for people trying to climb the ranked ladder to get screwed over by people who are account sharing is very frustrating, we want to play with people around our skill level and climb that way, not getting fucked over by a kid who's gold 5 on a plat 5 account that belongs to their older sibling

Telephone Booth1 votes

Go screw themselves? That's "hurling insults"? Jeez, it's so minor and impersonal. It's a general screw yourself to anyone that is account sharing, which is against the rules.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Yeah anyone who said that was clearly oblivious. I didn't know that was a common misconception. Everyone knows you can't go on other people's accounts. I think the confusion came from queueing with higher ranked players on your own account, and getting boosted that way.

côw1 votes

You'll also get banned for using certain words, if someone reports you during that game. It doesn't matter if you've had a clean record before or not.

EvilDustMan1 votes

I am lazy to read. Did you get threatening to feed / afk?

Eternal Torment3 votes
  • Giving up on a motivated team.

#Trolling

read those two addressions. Gotchu bro

EvilDustMan2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=siZR8tf2,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-09-09T21:40:01.494+0000)

read those two addressions. Gotchu bro

Here are some upvotes then.

50ShadesOfÀDC1 votes

''This point is often debated on, but Having a different Cursor by outside programming not only is actual overwriting of programm codes/hacking on the side, but also Cheating, since you give yourself an Advantage by changing something that is globally set for EVERYONE with no exceptions '' Then we shall ban people who use 3 screens aswell :) It is globally set for everyone on corner but hey he puts it on a big ass screen it gives him better visibility of map.Also people who play on high brightness because they see it brighter which gives them advantage.

Eternal Torment3 votes

Changes within the system that are not from Riot themselves is in any and all forms and means prohibited, and depending on what you changed can also be accounted for as hacking which can result in a Lawsuit.

Bigger Screen doesnt make any coding changes, so it is not against the rules as of state. If riot wanted the very map itself and the Screen to be the same for everyone they would have created a set max size for the launcher and the gamescreen

also, using multiple Screens gives you no Advantage whatsoever, league of legends has a limiter set so you can only have it full screened on one monitor. people use more Screens to per say quick-search people up to check their stats, crash course newer champions or manage their streams on the side or generally Keep open social medias without minimizing LoL.

50ShadesOfÀDC1 votes

Oh so if i change code in system for any thing even if its minor can get me banned?Didnt know that.I guess your right.

Eternal Torment1 votes

it is a point a lot of people argue about because there is a lot of clarity required, i don't blame you for kinda picking it up wrong. specifying the system itself is certainly no child's Play.

TrulyBland1 votes

I'd like to add that there are methods out there to help put LoL on multiple screens, in order to have a giant minimap on one of the screens. To my knowledge that does require altering game files, though, and thus is actually bannable.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Exactly what i meant. you can't at any and all means get yourself Advantages unless riot themselves have publicly announced such, and made them available for everyone.

Changing the minimap, as far as my personal googling goes, requires you to Launch an external Programm that opens said minimap into another window entirely, and thus you Access help from 3rd party sources which is not allowed.

AriCei1 votes

The bulk of this list comes off so over-sensitive to me... Like at a certain point, people need to be able to handle some back and forth joking. Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning any kind of hate speech, bigotry, or targeted mindless flaming and trying to ruin someone day, but if I'm toplane and they tower dive me 2v1 and they both die- I may /allchat "noobs lol",** especially** if they've been harassing me all game. To me that's more of a friendly way of acknowledging a part of the game- people make mistakes. And yet i've been banned for doing that, and personally I think it's wrong. I get that we are trying to foster a positive atmosphere, but that onus is on everyone- it means not taking things so seriously as much as it means not being rude to each other.

SanKakU1 votes

On the other hand, you could have typed in all chat to them "thanks for double kill" and then your message would have no insult while still acknowledging that they just fed you.

AriCei1 votes

{quoted}

On the other hand, you could have typed in all chat to them "thanks for double kill" and then your message would have no insult while still acknowledging that they just fed you.

Yeah but am I really going to be personally offended by that on the other end? Not if I'm a mature adult. Please, it's extremely tame banter- my wife and I are harsher to each other in good fun, and there's no one I respect more.

SanKakU1 votes

Neither would I. I might retort with a "it was his idea" or mute you if I really had enough of you, which wouldn't be the case unless you were flooding the chat or actively trying to distract our team.

Telephone Booth2 votes

Yeah, unfortunately people are super serious in game and already agitated and take your banter as cocky trash talk as if to say "haha I'm better than you" ... so the majority of people report for that and it becomes punishable and spirals into the no tolerance policies we have now. Riot did implement it as a learning system that changes what is seen as toxic over time based on report data and surveys and whatever other means. Since so many people report for little things, and because such little things spiral into full on chat wars half the time, we have this.

AriCei1 votes

Fair point- chat should really be done away with then if this is the attitude towards it from the top. Smart pings are enough to communicate anything you need to, if you want to get more complicated, queue with friends I guess.

Treat people like children and they'll act like it.

More from Player Behavior

The indefinite banning of Tyler1
Player Behavior4,799 comments
2,942
votes
14 day ban because playing Nunu Support with Smite is "stealing other people's roles"...?
Player Behavior1,525 comments
1,086
votes
Riot should add monthly status cards
Player Behavior241 comments
843
votes
Reminder that we haven't gotten our Summoner report cards yet :/
Player Behavior145 comments
619
votes
I'm not "triggered" by you throwing insults.
Player Behavior361 comments
548
votes
Black Alistar, King Rammus!!!!
Player Behavior462 comments
503
votes

More by Eternal Torment

What do you call an Ahri vs Kha'zix match?
Memes & Games33 comments
132
votes
How it feels when you want to type something but forgot to press Enter so you burn your flash
Memes & Games58 comments
127
votes
My mom told me to pause my online LoL game
Memes & Games19 comments
119
votes
The most hideous question since "Flash on D or F?"
Memes & Games127 comments
119
votes
Garen why didn't you ult?
Memes & Games43 comments
113
votes
"They have memed me for too long"
Memes & Games16 comments
109
votes