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Chat seems to have a lot more negatives than positives

Great Muta··3 votes·1,030 views

NOTE - I am probably going to trigger some members of the RBSC(Rito Butt Slappers Club). I would recommend some playdoh and a hot cocoa to relax your feelings. Viewer discretion is advised.

Let's be honest, chat is mostly used for flaming, little else. The negatives clearly outweigh the positives. Let's take a look at both:

Positives of chat:

  • Could be a medium to discuss various strategies or important messages in game

  • Can sometimes provide interesting conversations

Negatives of chat:

  • Cannot be disabled

  • Players cannot be granted chat restrictions

  • Muted players become unmuted when the game ends

  • Frequently used a place to flame and criticize others

  • Not useful in group fight or speedy situations as it takes too long to type

  • Mostly seems to exist to get players in trouble

  • Doesn't reflect intent or tone well and a lot of time, which can increase tensions

  • Mostly everything you would need to say in game could be covered by pings

Other things to think about:

  • League is famous for being the most toxic game, despite having one of the biggest stances on anti-toxicity. After 6 seasons, the problem has not been solved and it would appear that it is not going to be solved under the current direction.

  • Downtime in the game leads to people abusing chat likely more than anything else. If you are dead for 40 seconds or so after a miscommunication, there's little else to do but flame.

  • League is one of the few games without mics, even though at its highest level of play, mics are essential to victory. Mics would help humanize players and likely would decrease toxicity.

Overall, it seems the negatives outweigh the positives with chat and with no chat, the amount of reports, bans and suspensions would easily decline by 95% or more. Disabling chat would solve the toxicity problem and could make for a better overall experience for players.

48 Comments

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Cannot be disabled

That's somewhat true. There's no built-in feature to disable your own chat, and this would not be a bad thing to have.

Muted players become unmuted when the game ends

Blocking players will actually mute them in the lobby too. They made the in-game Mute button Block instead of Mute with the client update but it turned out to be too heavy handed so they rolled that back, but you can still /ignore people in-game and they will be blocked to achieve this. The ability to block people through the social pane (without having them as your friend) is coming back to the updated client, it's just not implemented yet.

Frequently used a place to flame and criticize others

Most people don't actually have this problem. The majority of players are pretty silent. However, humans are social creatures and the ability to chat is something we should definitely have. The people that misuse it shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us, and that's why they get punished and lose that privilege. Maybe your real issue is that chat offenses are not punished often enough?

Not useful in group fight or speedy situations as it takes too long to type

Of course you are alluding to the existence of Pings being used. Yes, they should be used in situations where you can't type, but what about the rest of the time?

Mostly seems to exist to get players in trouble

As I said before, the vast majority of players don't have that problem.

Doesn't reflect intent or tone well and a lot of time, which can increase tensions

That's unavoidable, but it's not anything new. This generation should know very well how text-only communication can be misconstrued.

Mostly everything you would need to say in game could be covered by pings

Like I said, what about everything else?

Verbal chat through microphones would be much more effective

Hell no. While it's true that voice comms are better for a more thorough message which can be used even during a tense teamfight, you open up a whole new can of worms with it. It cannot be effectively moderated, which takes most of the problems with toxic chat and magnifies it many times over. You also can't effectively talk at the same time as someone else, and not everyone likes to speak up with strangers. Riot has not yet implemented VoIP into the game yet because they want to reduce or solve those problems inherent with other games that have it.

Great Muta1 votes

Blocking players will actually mute them in the lobby too.

I have yet to try it, but if you have already muted them and they are unmuted, it's a bit late.

Most people don't actually have this problem. The majority of players are pretty silent.

Neither one of us have official stats to back this up but we do know if punished players are 5% of the player base, it would mean over 5 million people have been punished, since Rito says there are 100 million monthly players.

Of course you are alluding to the existence of Pings being used. Yes, they should be used in situations where you can't type, but what about the rest of the time?

Pings were mentioned. Read the full post.

As I said before, the vast majority of players don't have that problem.

It's estimated 5 million of 100 million have from what we know.

That's unavoidable, but it's not anything new. This generation should know very well how text-only communication can be misconstrued.

They might, but the system is automated and reports are free to dish out. I have reported no less than 25 players this week for various incidents.

Hell no. While it's true that voice comms are better for a more thorough message which can be used even during a tense teamfight, you open up a whole new can of worms with it. It cannot be effectively moderated, which takes most of the problems with toxic chat and magnifies it many times over. Riot has not yet implemented VoIP into the game yet because they want to reduce or solve those problems inherent with other games that have it.

The current system is only moderated by an automated system unless a support ticket is put in. We've seen some odd things get flagged through this forum and we do know that Rito support looks through your history back to an unknown amount of games to justify punishments. There is no way to do a bulletproof moderation of a game with 100 million players throughout the world.

League is the only game I know that does not offer a permanent mute of someone when pressed. If anyone harasses me in a game like CSGO, Overwatch or Rocket League, I mute them and it's over. If I mute someone in League, I know Round 2 is coming as soon as the game ends.

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

So how is this supposed to trigger anyone?

Or are you saying that it might trigger people becuase you want the implication of triggering people to trigger people?

Also you need to drop that acronym. It means nothing and people who support Riot aren't blind followers who agree with all their decsisions. It only makes you look childish when you lump up all the people who disagree with you into a category you can insult to make yourself feel better.

Great Muta2 votes

So how is this supposed to trigger anyone?

The RBSC is very against anyone disagreeing with Rito in any way, shape or form. They will downvote, be passive aggressive and verbally abuse until all naysayers are gone. This post is discussing issues with Rito's chat system and will likely offend many of the RBSC members here due to RBSC members not liking anyone who has issues with the holy Rito. I'm not trying to trigger anyone, but I want RBSC members to be warned that this is an RBSC-free zone.

Or are you saying that it might trigger people becuase you want the implication of triggering people to trigger people?

This post is discussing issues with Rito's chat system and will likely offend many of the RBSC members here due to the RBSC not liking anyone who has issues with the holy Rito.

Also you need to drop that acronym. It means nothing and people who support Riot aren't blind followers who agree with all their decsisions. It only makes you look childish when you lump up all the people who disagree with you into a category you can insult to make yourself feel better.

The Rito Butt Slappers Club or the RBSC will not be dropped anytime soon. People like myself will continue to fight the passive aggression, downvotes and propaganda that the RBSC has used to destroy this forum. This is a movement and awareness is the first step.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

The RBSC is very against anyone disagreeing with Rito in any way, shape or form. They will downvote, be passive aggressive and verbally abuse until all naysayers are gone. This post is discussing issues with Rito's chat system and will likely offend many of the RBSC members here due to having issues with the holy Rito.

Actually, people are downvoting your post because they think it's stupid/incorrect/biased as heck. The fact that you are talking about Riot's system is irrelevant.

This post is discussing issues with Rito's chat system and will likely offend many of the RBSC members here due to the RBSC not liking anyone who has issues with the holy Rito.

Actually people just think this post is stupid, incorrect, or biased as heck. I can go into more details but right now I want to address this.

The Rito Butt Slappers Club or the RBSC will not be dropped anytime soon. People like myself will continue to fight the passive aggression, downvotes and propaganda that the RBSC has used to destroy this forum. This is a movement and awareness is the first step.

By using passive aggressiveness, downvotes, and Riot is Satan propaganda. Yeah, that will work.

Bring your unbiased points to the table and try again. Most of your cons are fabricated and are propaganda against Riot.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but everything is bias regardless of what side you come from...

nothing is with out bias

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I know.

But the least he could do is make his statements less blatantly obvious that he's biased against Riot.

I mean come on, lumping everybody that doesn't agree with him in his thoughts that Riot is Evil into a group called the Riot Butt Slappers Club?

That is just childish.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

video game? check! being childish? check!

hmm whats the mystery here ?

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Great Muta2 votes

But the least he could do is make his statements less blatantly obvious that he's biased against Riot.

This is a discussion forum and RBSC members like yourself would love nothing more than to keep any opposing opinions out.

That is just childish.

You know what I think is childish? Mass downvoting not because of the quality of the post, but because it doesn't fit your propaganda and then harassing and abusing people who have an opinion different than yours. Your post is RBSC 101 behavior.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

This is a discussion forum and RBSC members like yourself would love nothing more than to keep any opposing opinions out.

...They have nice butts...

Seriously though, your opposing "opinion" is wrong and you need to be made aware of it.

You know what I think is childish? Mass downvoting not because of the quality of the post, but because it doesn't fit your propaganda and then harassing and abusing people who have an opinion different than yours.

You're assuming this post has quality. :P

See above. Your opinion is wrong and just because people bring it to your attention doesn't mean they are harassing or abusing you.

Great Muta1 votes

Seriously though, your opposing "opinion" is wrong and you need to be made aware of it.

You're assuming this post has quality. :P

See above. Your opinion is wrong and just because people bring it to your attention doesn't mean they are harassing or abusing you.

Prove what I'm saying is wrong. Show me enough evidence that I can't possibly argue my side anymore. That is how you argue. This RBSC Downvote > Discredit > Insult stuff isn't working for you.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I haven't used it. See my other comment.

I haven't downvoted you, and the fact that you want to take my counterarguments as insults isn't my problem nor can I do anything about it.

Great Muta1 votes

Actually, people are downvoting your post because they think it's stupid/incorrect/biased as heck. The fact that you are talking about Riot's system is irrelevant.

Actually people just think this post is stupid, incorrect, and biased as heck. I can go into more details but right now I want to address this.

Sounds like you got some inside information. Who are these RBSC members who think the post is stupid, incorrect or biased? And why are they unable to express this through discussion?

By using passive aggressiveness, downvotes, and Riot is Satan propaganda. Yeah, that will work.

Bring your unbiased points to the table and try again. Most of your cons are fabricated and are propaganda against Riot.

I'm open to discuss. That is what this forum is for. Not for what the RBSC likes to use it as - a place to downvote, silence, abuse and to spread Rito propaganda.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Sounds like you got some inside information. Who are these RBSC members who think the post is stupid, incorrect or biased? And why are they unable to express this through discussion?

Count the number of downvotes.

As for these people being unable to express their opinion, I believe I can spare them some typing and do it for them.

Cannot be disabled

This is wrong for obvious reasons. There is a mute function.

Players cannot be granted chat restrictions

Are you serious? Check the punishment tiers. You'll find chat restriction right there. Here's a link.

Muted players become unmuted when the game ends

This is your first valid con. However it can be easily be made more restrictive.

Frequently used a place to flame and criticize others

By the toxic people who get banned. People who use the chat to communicate and have a good time don't use it for this purpose.

Not useful in group fight or speedy situations as it takes too long to type

Pings.

Mostly seems to exist to get players in trouble

Hahahahaha! It exists to get toxic people who have no self control in trouble, if you want to put it that way. It doesn't get anybody in trouble in actuality, it is a tool. You abuse the tool you get punished. Simple.

Doesn't reflect intent or tone well and a lot of time, which can increase tensions

Emoticons are for this purpose, ya doofus. :P

As opposed to:

Emoticons are for this purpose ya doofus. >.>

Two similar statements with different intent and tone based on emoticons. Which people know how to use.

Mostly everything you would need to say in game could be covered by pings

Second valid point. Doesn't mean the system should go.

And so we have both of your pros, and only two of your cons worth considering.

Seems to be more balanced on the basis of pros and cons than before, eh?

I'm open to discuss. That is what this forum is for. Not for what the RBSC likes to use it as - a place to downvote, silence, abuse and to spread Rito propaganda.

You're hilarious.

Great Muta1 votes

Count the number of downvotes.

As for these people being unable to express their opinion, I believe I can spare them some typing and do it for them.

So you are admitting to RBSC collusion?

This is wrong for obvious reasons. There is a mute function.

Muting is not the same as disabling chat and all players are unmuted when the game ends.

Are you serious? Check the punishment tiers. You'll find chat restriction right there. Here's a link.

Riot will not give chat restrictions even if you request one. I have tried and was denied. When I asked what I could do to earn an extended chat restriction, the question was avoided.

This is your first valid con. However it can be easily be made more restrictive.

It could. Why isn't there something in place to accomplish this? Nothing could be done in over 6 years to fix this?

By the toxic people who get banned. People who use the chat to communicate and have a good time don't use it for this purpose.

Unfortunately, this seems to be a small number of people.

Pings.

Pings aren't chat, and I do think pings can accomplish the same thing as chat and do a better job of it.

Hahahahaha! It exists to get toxic people who have no self control in trouble, if you want to put it that way. It doesn't get anybody in trouble in actuality, it is a tool. You abuse the tool you get punished. Simple.

If this worked this way, I would have gotten over 1000 people in trouble. Knock two 0's off of that and you are closer to the number of players who I got a message saying "they have been punished" for.

Emoticons are for this purpose, ya doofus. :P

As opposed to:

Emoticons are for this purpose ya doofus. >.>

Two similar statements with different intent and tone based on emoticons. Which people know how to use.

People very rarely use emoticons in my games and there's a limited amount unfortunately.

Second valid point. Doesn't mean the system should go.

If chat goes, 95% of reports and punishments go with it. It's really hard to be verbally abusive if you can't type to other people.

You're hilarious.

That's the RBSC way: Downvote > Discredit > Insult

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Jokes on you. I haven't downvoted you at all. I have discredited you yes, but I don't believe I have insulted you.

I have knocked down your bologna infused statements, but I haven't attacked you as a person.

So no, it isn't what all people do when they disagree with you.

And besides, you're using the anecdotal fallacy. Your personal experiences don't have absolute bearing nor do they override the facts.

Great Muta1 votes

Jokes on you. I haven't downvoted you at all. I have discredited you yes, but I don't believe I have insulted you.

Only you and the RBSC know what has been done. Yes, you've insulted me throughout the entire thread.

And besides, you're using the anecdotal fallacy. Your personal experiences don't have absolute bearing nor do they override the facts.

Neither do yours, but there are some facts here:

  1. Toxicity continues to be a major issue that appears to have no solution after 6 seasons

  2. League is known as one of the most toxic communities

  3. 5% of the player base has been punished, which would be over 5 million people

  4. Players muted in game will not stay muted

  5. Pings and chats are different

  6. Chat is not the best method for communication

  7. League has never been clear on what's allowed or not allowed in game which has lead to more toxicity with examples of people not knowing that asking for reports is toxic as proof.

  8. I will continue the fight against the Rito Butt Slappers Club and we will take back this forum.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Only you and the RBSC know what has been done. Yes, you've insulted me throughout the entire thread.

List them. I want to see how I've "insulted you".

Please take note that me insulting your thread or your opinion is not the same thing as insulting you as a person. And I have not done that.

  1. It's went down.

  2. See 1. It's not going to dissapear overnight because there will always be jerks, but I for one will be part of a group of players that will never be toxic.

  3. A lot of them make smurfs and come right back. But in case I misunderstand the point of this fact please let me know. Are you saying this to imply that the punishment system doesn't work or that it's punishing too many people?

  4. They considered the change, but thought it was too heavy handed. I can't find the link for the comment though.

  5. This is obvious, but these are two methods of communication at your disposal. Use one or both it doesn't matter.

  6. This is subjective, and before you repeat the cons you said before I already covered them. Voice won't change much. I can promise you that. It will be a lot of work for no real gains, because toxicity still exists in voice comm games, and I will assure you it is much worse over voice.

  7. You will find that they have quite nice butts.

Great Muta1 votes

List them. I want to see how I've "insulted you".

As you like:

But the least he could do is make his statements less blatantly obvious that he's biased against Riot. childish. It only makes you look childish when you lump up all the people who disagree with you into a category you can insult to make yourself feel better. You're hilarious. Seriously though, your opposing "opinion" is wrong and you need to be made aware of it.

  1. It's went down. Proof?
  1. See 1. It's not going to dissapear overnight because there will always be jerks, but I for one will be part of a group of players that will never be toxic.

It's still known as one of the most toxic communities. No it's not going to go away overnight and only you know what you do in-game. But if this is a preview, I doubt it.

  1. A lot of them make smurfs and come right back. But in case I misunderstand the point of this fact please let me know. Are you saying this to imply that the punishment system doesn't work or that it's punishing too many people?

I've been banned, but I have 3 accounts, so it doesn't matter. An adult with money plays as much as they like.

The whole game set up is flawed from start to finish and that's the real root of many of the problems in-game. My various issues with it are here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/pNE9Gnm8-my-ideas-on-how-to-fix-various-stressful-and-behavior-issues-in-the-game

That's the best answer I can give you. I believe the situations the game creates is what causes most of the behavioral issues.

  1. They considered the change, but thought it was too heavy handed. I can't find the link for the comment though.

I've read why they made it the way they did (because dummies muted their friends and couldn't unmute them), but there are much better ways to handle it.

  1. This is obvious, but these are two methods of communication at your disposal. Use one or both it doesn't matter.

Making it clear as you looped them together earlier.

  1. This is subjective, and before you repeat the cons you said before I already covered them. Voice won't change much. I can promise you that. It will be a lot of work for no real gains, because toxicity still exists in voice comm games, and I will assure you it is much worse over voice.

I play games like CSGO with voice and the toxicity is less. People are much more honest and flame a lot less and if people do get out of control? Once you mute them it's over.

  1. You will find that they have quite nice butts

What does this have to do with:

  1. League has never been clear on what's allowed or not allowed in game which has lead to more toxicity with examples of people not knowing that asking for reports is toxic as proof.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Either you edited it between me opening the page and posting my reply or I mixed up my numbers. Let me fix that real quick. Apologies. That was meant to be the reply to 8)

  1. League has never been clear on what's allowed or not allowed in game which has lead to more toxicity with examples of people not knowing that asking for reports is toxic as proof.

Yes, they have. They have lots of support links where they list what is and what isn't allowed in game.

Also, this has been fun but it's really clear that you won't change your mind so I'm just going to leave it here.

Peace. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Great Muta1 votes

Yes, they have. They have lots of support links where they list what is and what isn't allowed in game.

I've been through this with multiple people. Riot has no clear list of what's allowed or what's not allowed, then wonders why toxicity issues exists when there are no clear rules.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

you have learned so good grasshopper

ModUlanopo3 votes

NOTE - I am probably going to trigger some members of the RBSC(Rito Butt Slappers Club). I would recommend some playdoh and a hot cocoa to relax your feelings. Viewer discretion is advised.

If you're going to start with an ad hominem, you should probably not bother.

Great Muta1 votes

The RBSC would love nothing more than that as it would help out the RBSC pro-Rito propaganda machine.

But RBSC members need to know that this thread is a RBSC-free zone and that there will be non pro-Rito opinions here which may trigger them.

ModUlanopo2 votes

http://imgur.com/4gD3Dtm

Color me unimpressed.

Great Muta1 votes

If I wanted to impress the RBSC, I'd post pro-Riot stuff and let downvotes fly.

ModUlanopo2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rbOVvAEB,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-20T22:28:35.655+0000)

If I wanted to impress the RBSC, I'd post pro-Riot stuff and let downvotes fly.

That would be "contempt prior to investigation."

Don't let the blue text fool you, I'm frequently a harsh critic of Riot. If you made a viable argument, I would support you. When you dismiss me out of hand, however, you ruin any chance that I will support you. That might be why your thread is at -17. Just sayin'.

Great Muta1 votes

If you made a viable argument, I would support you. When you dismiss me out of hand, however, you ruin any chance that I will support you.

I'm really not looking for upvotes. If I was I'd post pro-Rito passive aggressive stuff that the RBSC loves.

That might be why your thread is at -17. Just sayin'.

Abusing the downvoting system is a RBSC trademark. That's how they keep dissenting opinions out and pro-Rito opinions in. That's why people like myself are fighting back.

ModUlanopo3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rbOVvAEB,comment-id=000700000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-20T23:30:17.217+0000)

I'm really not looking for upvotes. If I was I'd post pro-Rito passive aggressive stuff that the RBSC loves.

As compared to the passive-aggressive stuff the RWAC (Rebel Without A Clue) loves? I mean, really. Your argument is nothing more than "life sucks and anyone who disagrees with me is a brownnoser". Have you ever considered that you're getting downvotes because insulting people as part of your thesis makes you a jerk?

Abusing the downvoting system is a RBSC trademark. That's how they keep dissenting opinions out and pro-Rito opinions in. That's why people like myself are fighting back.

Seems like a rather ineffective form of "fighting back". I suppose it makes you feel better about yourself, though.

Great Muta1 votes

Your argument is nothing more than "life sucks and anyone who disagrees with me is a brownnoser".

This is why there was an RBSC trigger warning.

Have you ever considered that you're getting downvotes because insulting people as part of your thesis makes you a jerk?

There's -17 downvotes here as we speak. But yet this was at -2 within minutes and somehow added 15 additional downvotes were added when I know I haven't seen that many users replying in this thread. We can also see how every reply I've made is at max 1 point, with most being under that.

Considering all of that, which is more likely:

  1. Every single point in this thread and other threads that I have made were so bad that they needed to be downvoted

or

  1. A whole bunch of people are downvoting not due to content, but so they can a) abuse the voting system or b) revenge downvote for whatever they are triggered/angry by.

Option 2 seems a lot more likely here.

You see, when I see a stupid thread, I just ignore it. It's stupid or I don't agree with it, why waste my time? But it seems a group of around 15-20ish people here feel a need to dish out downvotes but no need to actually say why they don't like it. And as I've noticed, this forum has the same people in every thread and these people tend to have the same thoughts - "Rito is never wrong", "The player is always at fault" and "if you break into this echo chamber, you are getting downvoted".

We have also established that a few users are using multiple accounts to downvote and insult on here like Paragon.

Seems like a rather ineffective form of "fighting back". I suppose it makes you feel better about yourself, though.

The Rito Butt Slapper's Club aka the RBSC awareness is already gaining some traction. The first step towards any problem is identifying it/making people aware of it and we've done so. The fight is just beginning and we will take back this forum. People are seeing how a small group of Rito butt slappers have taken over this forum with their revenge woodies and downvote fingers and the time for change is coming.

ModUlanopo2 votes

But it seems a group of around 15-20ish people here feel a need to dish out downvotes but no need to actually say why they don't like it.

I'm pretty sure that calling people names off the bat is a perfectly acceptable reason to think actually engaging with you would be a waste of their time.

Look, you've created a self-fulfilling prophecy here and passing it off as promoting community awareness is more than a little disingenuous. I have always found it to be more effective to life people up rather than pushing them down. If you want to be heard and respected, maybe you should try a little of that.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

I have been saying remove chat from the game for months now

Great Muta1 votes

It seems like the easiest solution to solving a lot of problems. It's obvious League is not able to solve it's issue with toxicity despite teams and PhD's(with the D standing for Dumbass) working to do so for 6 years.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

but I get down voted and flack for the idea just as you are ... people wanna cry about the verbal abuse and toxicity... I say remove chat , you can use pings... ( so many damn pings now) and every one cries... but then when people say they cant handle or deal with toxicity they are told to mute their teammates and report them and stop being babies

Great Muta2 votes

Yep, The RBSC(Rito Butt Slappers Club) is here to downvote and spread propaganda, so nothing about Rito's poor handling of toxicity can be discussed. Doesn't matter what you write, if you go against the RBSC, you will face downvotes.

Removing chat would solve 95% of the problems in a typical game.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

and then people cry about being chat banned or temp/perma ban and post their chat logs... and you see a mile long novel of chat log for 1 game... its like who da fuk types that much in a game?

I might use chat 3-5 times in a game

Atlas The Bird1 votes

Revolutionary idea here, maybe people use chat differently than you.

The fact that you rarely use chat is a terrible argument for why everyone should be without chat. No one is making you use it, and one piece of advice for people who truly hate everything about chat: mute everyone at the start of the game, problem solved.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

with the amount of pings and etc you really dont need chat in game... it ends up being more toxic then helpful

Atlas The Bird1 votes

Again making assumptions about everyone's need/use of chat. Just because that's your experience doesn't make it true for everyone.

If you don't need chat fine, some people use chat to communicate things that you can't through just pings.

Bídoof2 votes

The negatives outweigh the positives for people that have no self control or are just dicks in general

For people that like to win and you know, comunicate, we use the chat

Great Muta1 votes

The negatives outweigh the positives for people that have no self control or are just dicks in general

In my 3 years of experience with the LOL community, I would say this applies to most of the players.

Bídoof1 votes

That's because you look at it through a negative mindset

Hryna2 votes

I came for the playdough and cocoa. Where playdough where cocoa.

Great Muta2 votes

This is an RBSC-free zone man. No safe spaces, no playdough, no coloring books and no cocoa here.

bad arcade kitty2 votes

yeah, sure, "don't surrender, we can win 4v5 with a good initiation" can be said with pings, if i use morse code

50555507_DEL1 votes

Don't know why they don't just do something like Smite does. "Attack dragon", "Running low on mana" Team chat

Great Muta2 votes

Agreed. We are getting there with pings and it seems like it would accomplish the same things with less flaming.

LegendaryLemur1 votes

If you start the chat with some positive comments, i find you get a pretty fair number of positive responses.

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