I'd like to have more gratification for holding my tongue and silently reporting trolls

Hexs Fortune··3 votes·492 views

It can be as simple as a message praising me for avoiding toxicity and confirming the reported guy got an X on his record.

Those key frag messages are a good move, but we can do more.

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Telephone Booth4 votes

You don't need a reward for ignoring trolls who want you to talk shit to them. Your reward is just not getting the punishment that they will probably get. I do the same thing. I don't argue with people in game, I just see it and report afterward. Asking for recognition for that is petty, in my opinion.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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You don't need a reward for ignoring trolls who want you to talk shit to them. Your reward is just not getting the punishment that they will probably get. I do the same thing. I don't argue with people in game, I just see it and report afterward. Asking for recognition for that is petty, in my opinion.

It's pretty frustrating always turning the other cheek and quietly reporting, but I do so for the sake of my account. Getting some comfort after the fact from messages showing the guy actually got punished or even a thumbs up for showing self control go a long way towards soothing the tilt

Umbral Regent1 votes

...or even a thumbs up for showing self control...

Well, the random key fragment drops for Honor Level 2+ have little congratulatory messages about honorable behavior, whether it's overall statistics ("You've gotten 40% more GG <3 honors than the average player") or recent data ("70% of your teammates recently have honored you for staying cool!")

I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it sounds like it.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Yeah, I think that it's better to reward positive behavior than to reward vindictive behavior. That said, it might do a lot to reduce frustration factors to let people know that their reports have an effect.

Umbral Regent1 votes

Agreed. Although I think the biggest issue right now, more or less, is clarity. The Instant Feedback Report is kinda-sorta meant to reassure players that their reports matter (as far as I can tell), but over several threads, I've seen that people misconstrue it as the sole exclusive indicator that someone got punished - that if the pop-up doesn't appear, then that means that the IFS isn't punishing people despite valid reports.

And, even though I've thought about it for a fair while, the only thing I could come up with is just an "all-or-nothing" argument - have the Feedback Report match people's expectations and come up whenever a punishment is delivered, or don't have it at all.

That said, I'm also certain that there's a middle-ground to be had, like some sort of added text explaining that "these messages won't appear every time someone you report gets punished" - and/or even a rules/frequency change so as to make it somewhat more reliable info.

I could probably rattle this around my head - or discuss it at-length, for that matter - for a while, but I figure this is the most I should say in this thread, since it's fairly off-topic.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

I think it's on-topic enough, but I respect if you don't wish to discuss it further. That said I'd like to put forth something I've seen before:

Someone once made a post suggesting that the system give players a patch-ly or monthly feedback report - giving them info like, "X% of your reports this cycle were found to be accurate," or "Y% of your reports led to a punishment, while another Z% contributed to building a case against a player who is suspected of being toxic." etc...

Telephone Booth1 votes

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It's pretty frustrating always turning the other cheek and quietly reporting, but I do so for the sake of my account. Getting some comfort after the fact from messages showing the guy actually got punished or even a thumbs up for showing self control go a long way towards soothing the tilt

Yeah I suppose. But I try to live by the golden rule in life, and many times I've had to remind myself, I do it because I feel it's right, not because I expect recognition or compensation or some sort of return for it. But I get what you're saying. It wouldn't hurt. But Id rather they didn't waste time on a feature like that.

RITO: Dump all resources into troll detection!

HalcyonDweller1 votes

OP has a bit of a point though, the frustration factor of dealing with awful people and not knowing if they are dealt with appropriately is significant for some people.

I don't think people should be given pats on the back, but it might help mitigate frustration a lot if they knew their reports in general were having an effect.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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OP has a bit of a point though, the frustration factor of dealing with awful people and not knowing if they are dealt with appropriately is significant for some people.

I don't think people should be given pats on the back, but it might help mitigate frustration a lot if they knew their reports in general were having an effect.

Yeah I can see where he's coming from. It couldn't hurt.. I just think there's probably more pertinent issues that would be time better spent working on them. (Holy shit does that sentence even make sense? Fuck it im leaving it)

ModPeriscope1 votes

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