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Riot, this pretty much PROVES leaverbuster doesn't work. Please do something.

FUUUBAAAR··1 votes·2,519 views
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See the fizz on that team that lost? The little bugger literally went to mid, stood by turret, waited about a minute, then left the game and never once reconnected. We never got the option to remake, and were stuck playing a match that, although it was URF, was kind of difficult to enjoy when you KNOW THE OUTCOME ten to twenty minutes before the defeat screen. The only choice we had with any hope of at least being fun (which was to try and force a teamfight), the enemy team just bypassed via splitpushing (because in a 4v5 it's actually a competitively viable tactic). Thank god it was only a round of URF and not something like ranked, but still; I see garbage like this and wonder if it really wasn't intentional, it's just so conveniently timed to get around leaverbuster.

I don't even hold a grudge against the... not exactly correct teammate we had that claimed "we got this" and declined the early surrender vote (and the regular one later) despite us at best only being able to slow the other team down. Excessive optimism isn't a crime, but trolling like senior not at keyboard here? It should be.

All I'm asking for here RIOT is that you take a good hard look at leaverbuster, and how often it's not working (or even kicking in to trigger a remake when the system is still marking players as afk in post-game) to deter this kind of behavior. I understand you can't control people, but if you're going to claim you even HAVE a punishment system, the deterrents should at least be somewhat effective (which in leaverbuster's case, they clearly aren't since this guy literally just hung around long enough to avoid triggering it, then immediately afk'd anyway, rendering the "deterrent" null and void).

If that's too much, could we maybe at least get something that actually SHOWS people are pulling this less often? If you legitimately believe it is then show us what makes you think so, you must have SOMETHING. I can't stress enough that even in URF, a mostly just-for-fun mode, this is still unacceptable behavior (as in, I sincerely doubt anybody that sees rules like the summoner's code as anything other than a joke would consider this behavior acceptable).

Finally before all the "well maybe they just had to go" tropes start getting flung around, the afker literally left within seconds of leaverbuster ending it's watchtime. I'm also not saying this should be a "you did it once now you're banned forever" kind of thing. However we DO need more effective deterrents to this kind of behavior, and yes, sometimes that means you'll get burned when you got up and ran outta the room to go see your dying relative you just found out was in the hospital, but it's hardly the end of the world to trigger a remake/revert the changes that would occur to lp/mmr when it happens and give the afking account a queue restriction (where they'll be able to log in, but not queue up) for a certain amount of login time (and let's be realistic here, how many times in a week do YOU have a family emergency? I could see it happening 2 or 3 at MOST, and thats for people with family members in full-care because after that, the person is usually staying at the hospital for awhile and you'll have warning/be aware you need to leave ahead of time if you do need to go).

This isn't hate for afking (unless of course you consider there being consequences to poor decisions a type of hate), just a request to give a system that legitimately doesn't seem to be very effective some love/updates.

17 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon6 votes

So...some guy AFKing in your game somehow proves it doesn't work....How, exactly?

FUUUBAAAR1 votes

I said Practically for a reason in the title. What, pray tell, are the odds of someone leaving IMMEDIATELY AFTER leaverbuster would stop catching it, and not doing so on purpose? It's too well-timed, like it was intentional. I know this isn't 100% positive "would stand up in court" kind of proof, but it's about as close as a player can get without literally violating someone's online privacy by monitoring their internet connection (which, let's face it, would NOT be worth doing even if one was so inclined due to how hard every possible involved authority would screw you over if you got caught).

This is literally one of the closest examples one can get of intentional afking after leaverbuster kicks out, aside from a literal in-game confession. Even with no remake available leaverbuster should have recorded this for the purpose of serving as a deterrent by flagging the account for examination. RIOT takes too long to act on unacceptable behaviors as it is, lack of information being gathered about any of them can only make that worse.

rujitra1 votes

How do you know it didn’t flag the account?

FUUUBAAAR1 votes

You're right, it MIGHT have, however since RIOT commonly refuses to show progress of reports (which I can understand), the player is still actively playing (turns out op.gg has it's uses after all), and this discussion has yet to even see a response (let alone an example of what they think show's the system is working) from the company, I'm going to be assuming that RIOT has nothing TO show us the system is effective and has ordered their staff to keep quiet again kinda similar to the whole HK thing everybody was in a tizzy about recently.

I mean really RIOT, would ONE answer be so much to ask? I just wanna know how you figure it's working, I honestly thought it was an easy question to answer.

rujitra1 votes

No, riot is not going to give you information about other players’ accounts.

FUUUBAAAR1 votes

Which I pointed out, and as said previously, can understand (it's somewhat common to protect even an online alias such as a league username's activity history these days for various reasons). I'm still more interested in hearing what information they're working off of that makes them say "yes, this system is working". Which was the original point of the post. The fizz afk is just an example of a behavior I see all too often on League.

Jennifer174 votes

leaverbuster DOES work. its just laughable. the hardest punishement is 5x20min low priority q. while yes thats almost 2 hours, it does not stop anyone from intentionally afking. noone.

Sinful Succubus2 votes

Actually abusing the leaver buster has gotten people banned.

Jennifer172 votes

yeah i keep hearing that... yet i've not once seen this confirmed.

Kei1432 votes

I've seen 2 cases of it here. One was a Tantram smite, the other was a Broporo smite.

Jennifer172 votes

whos broporo? and man tantram... i miss him. didnt see him in ages.

CharDeeMcDenniz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EuhGLMeB,comment-id=00150000,timestamp=2019-10-15T17:59:07.687+0000)

I'm not working in the PB space anymore. I moved on to being a more general architect for League. But, happy to answer questions I know answers to:).

That's one of the reasons you haven't seen me around here as much. I've been busy!

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/EuhGLMeB-i-missed-you-all?comment=00130000

Jennifer171 votes

good old tantram. still missing him :(

Kei1431 votes

Around 2 years ago, Riot had a help and support subboards, where Riot support staff would come here and use their copy and paste answers to help those with questions.

It could be tech questions, it could be PB questions, events questions and even gameplay / story and art questions.

The community can see those questions and reply to them, or support staff would reply. Broporo was one of those support staff.

Sinful Succubus1 votes

can you link me either of the posts?

i may need them at some point

Kei1431 votes

Nope. They were unconveniently deleted after OP got smote. I hate it when people just deleted their thread after they got shamed.

But just because it got deleted doesn't mean it didn't exsist.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Tbh, i don't even think you can /remake in URF. Just like I'm pretty sure you can't in ARAM

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