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something that really needs to be addressed with people and their thoughts of the meta

Eternal Torment··1 votes·472 views

since i actually lost a ranked due to this very issue there will be ecspecially the targeted people of this who will claim this as merely a vent and a rant and to 25% they are right.

so to the issue: there are a lot of strong Things in this game right now, carry builds and recommendations on proguides and other sites. however...there is a reason it is called PROguides and not GOODguides. it is a Build for the good people, guys who can one trick their champion, people who are high elo, carry Gamers etc. NOT for everyman. there are people who plague their teams by losing games because they go stuff like bork ashe or bork draven THEN have the nerve to excuse losing by saying "but it is good, look pro builds" so i personally have just one Thing to say

YOU ARE NOT A PRO! and if you Keep on trying this Build until you get lucky enough to fight someone whos very new to this game and loses to YOU, then you never will be pro. you can't just go stuff that doesnt work because someone in the lcs made it work. he/she is in the lcs because they are so good they can make it work. you are not. i don't go bork ashe bork draven or triforce lucian just because some high elo god made it work and now i think everyone can win with the Build. no. thats false Propaganda. thats bullshit to sabotage your entire team and get yourself tons and tons of reports for inting.

stop making pro builds in ranked games that you can't utilize at all. the reason i write this in PB&M is because it isnt something that has to do with gameplay, it has to do with how wrong people are about picking recommendations and meta builds up. it is so wrong that i daresay that this is a screw up. just because it is meta does not make it op, or even strong for the matter. it means it is very popular, it is Fashion. just because it is Fashion does not mean it is great. and your teammates will certainly curse you for throwing the game just because you falsely assumed that such is the case. go to normals with it first, or even against bots. learn to Play those pro builds before you actually go in ranked where it is very decisive and people WILL flame you over it.

long story short, stop building stuff thats popular and misconfuse it with being good. Build what is strong instead, Things you CAN make work, Things you are very comfortable with. then at least you wont be completely useless, then at least you can actually say you tried your hardest and best, and not go mute and report every single Person just because you wanted to Experiment in THE ONE place where you do not Experiment builds.

thank you for your attention, and for those that are or feel addressed by this. take this from someone who is stuck in his elo for 100+ games thanks to guys pulling the "but pros Build it" all the time.

11 Comments

dark green2 votes

I find that you have a very odd definition of meta. It doesn't exist because some people who are good at the game randomly choose these items for no reason, they are reaction to changes in the games constant patches. Now I will admit picking up some pro build without understanding them is not a great way to climb, but no matter how you cut it the build will not be bad to the point where it is even the 3rd biggest reason a team loses a game. At this point in the season, BotRK is honestly an acceptable start on any adc (minus cait who really needs the I.E. Passive ASAP) especially on draven a champ that will always hit like a freight train with his q active but also is required to be able to stick to his target (which BotRK active helps with immensely) Not sure what pro is picking up tri on Lucian, but yeahhhhh that's not great compared to Black Cleaver unless you are 4 kills and 50… once again not a super large game losing factor though.

P.S. Ahhhh yes I remember my silver days when I would fully blame my teammates for my loss instead of my own multiple screw ups lack of positioning knowledge and objective control. Good times. Just focus on yourself and getting to at least gold is a very easy thing my good sir.

Eternal Torment1 votes

the Thing is thats precisely how the meta shapes. riot keeps nerfing, adjusting and even potentially reworking items based on how they performed in the pro Scenes because people actually take it from said pro Scenes to Build up the goods and the Bads in league, which in turn then shapes the meta. bork on draven i have not once, i repeat NOT ONCE seen work and ive got to Play otp draven mains who Play for multiple Seasons now. i do not blame myself simply because in These specific, not all but These very specific cases where it does happen it is not my fault. i do not tell that Person "Play something you are not comfy with just because it is meta" and then cause that Person to throw us the game. so until that happens i am logically not blamed for it. people make decisions, and i respect that, but the least what i expect in a ranked game from anyone is to know what they do before they do it.

dark green1 votes

**HUZZAH ** I take your anecdotal evidence and raise you my own as I have seen it work pretty effectively. (maybe being bad at using BotRK is an EUW thing KAPPA) Still waiting for you to give a single reason why you think the item doesn't work on though.

So riot bases patch changes off of pros and you think for some reason these pros just randomly chose whats meta not because they are strong but just for shits and giggles?

You say you aren't gong to tell someone not to play meta if it's not comfortable, but some people feel most confident with what's meta complaining is doing the exact thing you say you wouldn't do.

the dude builds the item all the time on Draven and out of his last 10 played games he went Draven 4 times and only lost when you were on his team bud.

Eternal Torment1 votes

ya that guy however was doing horrible from the start. before going to him specifically i will just say, yes pros Build what is strong but this is not the point, the point is they can make it strong, they can and know how to use it, how to properly Play with it and against it. most people in the metas dont and they just Build it because a few Websites say it is good. that in itself is one Thing that ruins a lot of games for people in all elos, but with it then Comes the attitude of not caring what your team says and just Keep doing your Thing seeing, KNOWING it is not working well. as for that specific draven he did lose us the game, my team and even some of the enemy members said so then, because he was daring enough to talk big in all chat after catching a couple of kses and got downtalked by the enemy that stopmed him beyond return. so much for that.

Eternal Torment1 votes

PS, the game where this happened i had the highest and by far most positive score in my team, i was playing a fizz and doing really well. you can check the match history of today since i played fizz only once it will be easy to find

dark green1 votes

I'm going to address this comment first because this is the outlandish thought process that will make it hard to climb. It's not like I didn't check it before I typed to you. If you did hard carry the post scriptum could have been more along the lines of "keep on man and you will climb", but what score tells me is that you didn't play really badly. That's it....

You don't have the best kda You did't do the most damage You don't even have the most cs

Sure, you last hit a lot of champs and had a little more gold than your top, but that doesn't really mean anything especially if you didn't do more with it. You played Fizz in a lane he is suppose to stomp relatively hard, who is also a great roamer that could beat down a such a squishy no cc bot lane if you play it right. it was your game to win, you didn't know the right choices to make is all.

Look internally at your level of play and I'm sure you will be able to climb

or blame ya team that's been working pretty well so far [slayer-jinx-catface]

Eternal Torment1 votes

you are in this comment really just excusing the failed botlane on my side because you think every Person that rants it at his own fault, or hers. no, this game we legitimately lost because of that adc, as 4 people in a team everyone shared that opinion. so you can either take Things as they are and live with it that not everytime it is the ranters fault or you can Keep on trying to look for that one excuse to say "nah man your fault your teammember sucked" until it somehow magically makes sense one day, which it wont.

aZ3R0n1 votes

So... What's wrong with building BORK on an ADC?

Eternal Torment1 votes

that is despite being strong does not work on many adc. i have so far only seen 2 adc effectively make use of it in the earlygame and those adc's are lucian and ezreal, for the simple reason that it synergizes mostrously well with their kit as a whole. other adcs who i saw try to Build or even rush it have so far with not one exception ended up going in any score between 0/8 and 1/12 with throwing both their lane and the game respectively. bork on adc CAN be good, it does not mean it is by garuantee. it requires Skill to utilize that item, Skill that people underestimate a LOT. saying bork on adc goes for everyone is like saying gp crits dont do damage, you can Keep saying that but once it hits you it will be a tad too late for you and your team to save anything.

Kei1431 votes

Well... The meta changes every two weeks, are you keeping up with what's good? Cos good things normally become meta.

Eternal Torment1 votes

i try to Keep up with it thats why i named it Fashion. the meta in a generalized nutshell is the Fashion in league of legends. it is THE Thing to Play with, THE style ingame. a Build that is some misplaced version of a "must have" on champions. like bork on lucian or lethality varus, where you can actually see people get mad to the point where they threaten to report you if you dont Build that, calling everything else bad, trolling and even inting.i have seen people suffer under that false Definition of meta=strong because that is often really not the case. the meta keeps changing, just like fashionable Things do. nothing stays popular forever, but some people miss that point and sell out their entire team to that, and thats what my rant is about.

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