Silver V - III Range Is The Worst Cancer I've Ever Seen.

its me brna·Jun 2, 2017·3 votes·722 views

I don't even know what to say.

Every single game is either a huge nail biting rage fest where my team isn't that bad but doesn't pay attention because they're too busy hitting their enter button, or my whole team is a bunch of clueless players that make you wonder how they even managed to climb past Bronze V.

None of these games are a test of skill, they are a test of which team has more ragers & Bronze V players.

Seriously, I swear making it out of Silver now days isn't about how well you play.. it's about <removed by moderation> and make them feel good about themselves so they'll actually play the game and shut up.

18 Comments

DukuesJun 2, 20171 votes

silver 2 is worse

its me brnaJun 2, 20171 votes

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silver 2 is worse

All of Silver is bad.

DukuesJun 2, 20171 votes

True although, with normal mmr silver 1 never seemed as bad to me. Probably because you get to play with more gold players which chills the games out more and skill range doesn't seem quite as random.

Spicy RiceJun 2, 20171 votes

lol m8, in ranked, gold elo is where the shitshow begins

AR URFJun 2, 20171 votes

The first time I've ever placed was in bronze 1 and I lost my promos 3 times because of the reasons you listed. I finally made it to silver 5, but I tell you that anything bronze/silver does not feel very achieving.

Deep Terror NamiJun 2, 20171 votes

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ChønklordJun 2, 20171 votes

I have less problems with silver 3 and above in terms of skill levels -- and more problems when it comes to player attitude. Especially during the wee morning hours (for my timezone, EST USA); there seems to be a larger influx of shitty attitudes and huge egos.

Spicy RiceJun 2, 20171 votes

Don't want to be that guy, but you can almost always either

A. Solo carry

B. Be a good leader and convince your team to play together for 40 mins or so.

Now obviously, there are games you can't win, but I refuse to believe that your losses all come from bad teammates and ragers.

All I can really say is try focusing more on your gameplay than your teammates.

Tl;Dr Git gud

EagleOfAlbaniaJun 2, 20171 votes

Last two games i just played, had a thresh that would walk up and do nothing and let the enemy draven just hit away at him and then our akali afked bought 6 tears and just flamed, 2nd game had a cho that had like 11 cs or something at 15 min so guess what (hint 5 man bots :o), its a very common occurrence man. Alot of games in silver are determined not by skill but who has the shitty teammates (and i have been that teamate several times as well, im not innocent, but it goes to show that well bc of my actions it does not reflect my teammates skills just like when it happens to me)

its me brnaJun 2, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=p5EplAjL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-06-02T15:05:17.072+0000)

Don't want to be that guy, but you can almost always either

A. Solo carry

Or

B. Be a good leader and convince your team to play together for 40 mins or so.

Now obviously, there are games you can't win, but I refuse to believe that your losses all come from bad teammates and ragers.

All I can really say is try focusing more on your gameplay than your teammates.

Tl;Dr Git gud

Yea, okay buddy, keep thinking that. I'm not going to say I'm perfect... but I play far above a Silver player in terms of both mechanics, knowledge, and decision making. I dumpster the enemy team just about every single game, regardless of how terrible my team does. The fact is, you can't 1 v 5 fed opponents regardless of how good you are. Before you go posting that Yassuo video that I've seen several times on this board.. HE DOESN'T HAVE FEEDING TEAMMATES. Yes he literally 1 v 5's, however he doesn't do it with 4 other feeders donating gold to the enemy team. You literally cannot carry solo when the whole enemy team has 5,000+ gold on every single person on your team... it's simply not possible. It's not a matter of skill when they have massively superior stats. There's no outplay when the enemy team can 100 to 0 you or any given member of your team.

https://i.imgsafe.org/1a1d7aada9.jpg

Here's an example, I can give you tons of them.

Spicy RiceJun 2, 20171 votes

Solo carrying isn't 1v5'ing the enemy team. It's getting an advantage, snowballing it, and using it to help your team.

You do seem to have won lane.

Did you roam? Did you split push and force the enemy team to come stop you? Did you invade and make their jungler useless? Were you there for the important teamfights? Did you clean up kills, or take initiative? Did you flame your team or plan how to win with them? Did you focus their carries? Did you actively make plays?

There's so many things you can do to carry games, if you are as good as you say you are.

And like I said before, you can't win every game, but you are spouting some mad bull shit if you are claiming that all/a majority of your games are unwinnavle due to teammates.

its me brnaJun 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=p5EplAjL,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2017-06-02T18:46:18.897+0000)

Solo carrying isn't 1v5'ing the enemy team. It's getting an advantage, snowballing it, and using it to help your team.

You do seem to have won lane.

Did you roam? Did you split push and force the enemy team to come stop you? Did you invade and make their jungler useless? Were you there for the important teamfights? Did you clean up kills, or take initiative? Did you flame your team or plan how to win with them? Did you focus their carries? Did you actively make plays?

There's so many things you can do to carry games, if you are as good as you say you are.

And like I said before, you can't win every game, but you are spouting some mad bull shit if you are claiming that all/a majority of your games are unwinnavle due to teammates.

The problem with your logic is that not everyone is a retard. You are over here pretending like the enemy team is somehow worse than my own, when the fact is they are not. "Solo carrying" is a matter of how bad the enemy team is and has no relevance toward how good another player is. The only thing I am pointing out in my post is the fact that I played a near perfect game and still lost. The reason I lost wasn't a matter of how good or bad I was, it was a matter of how good or bad the enemy team was in comparison to my own. Does every game go like this? Of course not. The vast majority of the time however, when the other team has a huge advantage, they are not likely to throw it away.

If everything was how you guys on the boards think it is, Faker would never lose a single game. He'd have a 100% win rate even in Challenger. Just because there's always room for improvement doesn't make you the God of League from improving. This is the whole method behind a ladder system to begin with. As you climb higher, you are more consistently facing better and better opponents. The one issue with a game like League of Legends however is that there are Silver / Gold players more skilled than Diamond, Master, or even Challenger players on specific champions. This makes the ladder far more inaccurate than everyone makes it out to be.

tl;dr:

Carrying 1v5 requires the enemies to be terrible or make a lot of mistakes.
Tier does not always equate to skill. It takes a quite a grind to climb, not everyone wants to climb or has time to.
Not every low tier player is a moron that will constantly make mistakes and feed you, or throw games away.

Spicy RiceJun 3, 20171 votes

I'm just going to reply to your Tl;Dr since it's easier to respond to bulleted points.

We are in low elo. People almost always make mistakes. They may not make huge glaring ones all the time (doing baron at 10 hp), but everyone here makes little mistakes constantly. Carrying is about using these little mistakes to claw for every advantage you can get for your team
True, tier doesn't always equate to skill, but more often than not, people deserve to be in the area they are in, and making excuses by using the attitudes of other players doesn't make you look better as a player.
By nature of the ranking system, we are morons (compared to high elo players) and we do constantly make mistakes. The reason they are up at the top and we aren't is due to our own ignorance of our mistakes. That's the reason you see challenger players climbing back to challenger in an extremely small amount of games. It's due to them being able to notice and exploits the mistakes that we make, and by making much fewer mistakes.

its me brnaJun 3, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=p5EplAjL,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-03T15:47:19.132+0000)

I'm just going to reply to your Tl;Dr since it's easier to respond to bulleted points.

We are in low elo. People almost always make mistakes. They may not make huge glaring ones all the time (doing baron at 10 hp), but everyone here makes little mistakes constantly. Carrying is about using these little mistakes to claw for every advantage you can get for your team

True, tier doesn't always equate to skill, but more often than not, people deserve to be in the area they are in, and making excuses by using the attitudes of other players doesn't make you look better as a player.

By nature of the ranking system, we are morons (compared to high elo players) and we do constantly make mistakes. The reason they are up at the top and we aren't is due to our own ignorance of our mistakes. That's the reason you see challenger players climbing back to challenger in an extremely small amount of games. It's due to them being able to notice and exploits the mistakes that we make, and by making much fewer mistakes.

Once again, the "high tier" reference. You are acting like someone in these games is some type of God lol I hope you realize there are only 200 Challenger players on any given server, and roughly only 500 players with the equivalent skill of a Challenger player out of almost 3 million players. Of course these guys would shit on anyone, they are the top two tenths of a percent of the top in a 2-3 million player base. I'm no Challenger player, in order for myself or anyone (even plat - low diamond tier) to reasonably carry these games.. the enemy has to GIVE YOU the win when the rest of your team is getting destroyed. Most of the time, your team won't get destroyed. Sure in these games it's a completely different story. Even a decent player can easily control the game when his team is even or ahead. When your team is just utterly getting dumpstered, it's not the same.

This Is Your DadJun 2, 20171 votes

That match looks balanced. Garen and riven are fed, and everyone else seems about average.

EagleOfAlbaniaJun 2, 20171 votes

100% agree, i got lucky for 6 games in a row where my team was not toxic and we did not have an afk, won all of them easily. After that ive been getting ww supps, afkers, toxic people that just drag everyone into the convo, and people that feed (or are just so bad that they seem like they are inting) and this happens all the time. Im not saying im good or deserve to be gold or anything like that, but this yoyoing up and down from Silver 5-3 based on oh does my team have one of these people or does the other just sucks. Obviously this is not all games, there are some that I am jsut being beaten by a better player or team but tbh i would say the majority of silver games are like this.

EagleOfAlbaniaJun 2, 20171 votes

Also to the people that say well obviously you arent good enough, no shit man, im not challenger I cant carry a team like that. I jsut really feel like it shouldnt be this hard to get so s2 or s1...