Do people not realize the main root of toxic players in this game?

McFatal··12 votes·2,589 views

a majority of the toxicity in this game stems from the game itself.

no one comes into league thinking "fuck my jungler and fuck my team" level 1.

it stems from the games where you're completely trapped for 40 minutes in your diamond promos with an intent feeder who has 20 deaths 15 minutes in KNOWING you cant just leave the game and go take a breather but rather have to be farming or much less defending a 100 percent guaranteed loss.

why would u ever think that someone will play a game after that smiling his way through it?

at the end of the day its a video game and riot makes it feel like a job.

if im in promos and im given a sure loss with 2 afks or a intent feeder, i SHOULD get to see them get banned 5 minutes after the game ends rather than me getting a chat restriction because i called them worthless cockroaches.

if i go into a game and within 10 minutes of it my jungle and mid have started threatening to afk and started trolling, i should get to feel like my loss didnt go directly into the drain.

ranked is a hellhole right now.

with all the afks trolls and intent feeders AND how the game is so one sided now, there is no chance of coming back frmo a 4v5 or 3v5.

the toxicity in this game stems from the game itself.

you can tell me "just move on"

but when you get 2 intent feeders in 2 games of your promos to an elo youve desperately been trying to get to for months, you feel like utter shit.

no amount of "chilling" will remove the fact that you were handed an unlucky team with 1-2 players who wanted to make sure u lost while the enemy team was given the set of 5 players looking to win.

it feels even worse knowing that if you type to an intent feeder once you're at a much larger risk of getting punished than he is.

the community has grouped up and started a witch hunt against toxicity forgetting what the word even means.

ive never told anyone to kill themselves get cancer or for their family to die much less threaten anyone.

you know what i do? i call people trash if they go 2-13. i ping missing on their bodies after they get caught for the 6th time.

i tell them to shut the fuck up and stop typing if they ramble on and on in the game.

do i deserve the same punishment as the same guy doing the worst of the worst?

learn the definition of toxicity before you spout it everywhere.

21 Comments

SEKAI5 votes
  • Do you also complain about your easy win when there is a troll or int feeder on the enemy team? Because here you're dead-set on the idea that trolls only appear on your team to drag you down, which let's be real, it doesn't work like that.
  • Do you seriously think smearing your negative frustration on the face of your teammate is actually gonna solve the problem for yourself?
  • Do you think being toxic is entirely to blame on the media being consumed instead of the player's own conscious choice to be and do toxic?

Really, this is not any title specific problem, almost every massively popular competitive game is like this, and it's not going away anytime soon. Why? There is no way a game company can force people sit down, play games and not act like an asshole, you know it's simply impossible, that's why report and other similar alternatives are the best we can get in the foreseeable future.

Toxic is toxic, there is no justification for you acting like a hurt butt. The game doesn't hold you at gunpoint and force you to type and behave like a thug, you chose to do it just because you aren't feeling particularly high on happy brain morphine (endorphin).

McFatal2 votes

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  • Do you also complain about your easy win when there is a troll or int feeder on the enemy team? Because here you're dead-set on the idea that trolls only appear on your team to drag you down, which let's be real, it doesn't work like that.
  • Do you seriously think smearing your negative frustration on the face of your teammate is actually gonna solve the problem for yourself?
  • Do you think being toxic is entirely to blame on the media being consumed instead of the player's own conscious choice to be and do toxic?

Really, this is not any title specific problem, almost every massively popular competitive game is like this, and it's not going away anytime soon. Why? There is no way a game company can force people sit down, play games and not act like an asshole, you know it's simply impossible, that's why report and other similar alternatives are the best we can get in the foreseeable future.

Toxic is toxic, there is no justification for you acting like a hurt butt. The game doesn't hold you at gunpoint and force you to type and behave like a thug, you chose to do it just because you aren't feeling particularly high on happy brain morphine (endorphin).

I've never enjoyed he game when someone on the enemy team is afk. Ever. Even when I'm getting the win it feels like pure boring shjt. Just thinking about how it could have been me losing my promo game if I was on the enemy team fills me with irritation. I'm the first one to report a rage quit or an intent feeder.

Your second to last point hit the nail on the spot. That's my point . That is LTERALLY my point.

Toxic is not toxic.

If I call u bad don't group me in with someone that threatens to murder ur mom if u feed .

3ManBaronFTW1 votes

i enjoy the free win and report the troll, wats wrong with that?

Snowy Cute AF2 votes

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McFatal2 votes

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Well, I think it highly depends on the player. You can't go calling a player trash for not doing good, that is the ESSENCE of what toxicity is. Instead of trying to talk it out with your team mate, help them, you sit there spamming pings at them and calling them bad. you know what makes it hard to make a come back? when a player acted like that to me when I was new, I just shut down and tilt so bad. Now I just mute everyone, because of people like you. If they are trying, and you are sitting there putting them down. Not them, you, are in the wrong. See, I can understand the "Shut the fuck up" part, because I've had games where two team mates fight over the viability of a pick, or a team mate bans another team mates champ and they just fight, Yeah, tell them to stfu and focus. But you are literally arguing that trashing other players isn't toxic and that's just wrong. Sure you don't tell them to go get cancer, but it's like you want people to be thankful that you don't say "go get cancer" to people? that you only call them trash. That's like, a normal thing in real life, to not tell someone to go get cancer, much less be thankful for them not doing it.

I don't mean to start something here, but this post is like a bully being mad that he was caught,

how am i THAT much of a bully for telling someone they are bad for going 2-15 in a goddamn video game. Bullying is a bigger issue. Physically hitting someone and mentally insulting someone over a large period of time or rather a have a harsh manner. Fr call u bad once in a game that's not bullying that's me being a human being who doesn't like his time being wasted by a troll

trash talk has always been one of the only things left in this game worth playing for.

take that away and all you have are a bunch of delusional players going around congratulating their teammates for going 2-16 running it down mid saying "you'll get them next time friend!!!" when you know damn well they are assholes that like to ruin everyones time.

this game is being changed to condition players to be thoughtless church boys who only know positivity .

it wont work.

it never does.

it never will.

the creator of this idea ended up to be pretty toxic irl .

good thing he didnt say gg ez to the girl he cheated on or he would be sent to jail tho.

Snowy Cute AF2 votes

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McFatal1 votes

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"how am I bully for making fun of someone for being bad" that was all I read.... I just stopped reading after that. Immediately everything you say is like so contradictory.

Edit: I was confused, so I decided to continue reading. And just to point out.... "This game is being changed to condition players to be thoughtless church boys who only know positivity" Wat. The game is being changed in literally no way, it promotes players who don't say shit that is worthy of getting them banned. Trash talk isn't gone, but, you're not meant to trash talk your team, and anyone who trash talks their team is toxic. If you really need me to explain it to you, trash talk should be knowingly joking, and it should be against your enemies. You shouldn't get in a pissing contest with your friends because it brings out the worst in your team. and lastly, if shit talking is the only reason you play this game, go to the youtube comments section. This game is enjoyed by many as an ACTUAL GAME. Not just a way to piss people off and shit talk. people like you are what ruins the game for a lot of people.

Losing out thousands of dollars and years of experience because u continued to say "you're bad" to people on the internet sounds legit . " but it's in the rules so it's ok" is another excuse for this. Thankfully the most I've had was a 25 chat restriction in the past 1.5 years but wow what a joke of an idea. If u go into my promos and feed ur ass off I'm going to cal u bad. Don't like it? GO play club penguin before it closes and have a party with your little sensitive friends as well. Shit talking is normal. If u don't like it u have a mute button. If u complain about words still then you're just looking for attention. Mommy he called me bad when I inted his game he's so toxic I could have muted him but I wanted to feed my victim complex so I let him insult me and then made an entire thread about t for upvotes !!!!

Lithillya1 votes

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Mommy he called me bad when I inted his game he's so toxic I could have muted him but I wanted to feed my victim complex so I let him insult me and then made an entire thread about t for upvotes !!!!

Isn't that last bit exactly what you're doing, though? You made a thread about something in the hopes of having your opinion validated by others, then lash out at people who don't agree with you. Really does seem like you're the one with the victim complex.

McFatal2 votes

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Isn't that last bit exactly what you're doing, though? You made a thread about something in the hopes of having your opinion validated by others, then lash out at people who don't agree with you. Really does seem like you're the one with the victim complex.

I'm fine with my punishments but that doesn't mean i agreewith them. I'm the last person to have a victim complex when it comes to toxicity. Also explaining my points in someone else's perspective doesn't mean im lashing out. I didn't say that sentence as if it were the guy I was responding to.

I don't need my opinion validated.

Proof of that? I started this thread in the largest percentage of The SJW part of the league community. Most of them are holed up in this site spreading "you're toxic" to everyone that so much as says the game pisses people off .

Bunch of witch hunting losers who downvote and group up on one person and then claim to be positive players

Lithillya1 votes

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I'm fine with my punishments but that doesn't mean i agreewith them. I'm the last person to have a victim complex when it comes to toxicity. Also explaining my points in someone else's perspective doesn't mean im lashing out. I didn't say that sentence as if it were the guy I was responding to.

No, explaining things in a different perspective doesn't mean you're lashing out. Doing it in the manner you chose to do, however? Does. Look at what I quoted before. You've used a similar tone before and it's hardly what you'd call level headed, now is it? The fact that you paint people with a different view, as someone who cries for their mother at the first sign of adversity, does sort of point towards you seeing yourself as someone who've been mistreated for next to no reason. And, if nothing else, shows that you quite clearly take issue with your punishment and is far from 'fine' with it.

I don't need my opinion validated.

It really seems like you do, though.

Proof of that? I started this thread in the largest percentage of The SJW part of the league community. Most of them are holed up in this site spreading "you're toxic" to everyone that so much as says the game pisses people off .

Bunch of witch hunting losers who downvote and group up on one person and then claim to be positive players

Do you really not see how hostile you're being? You continue to paint people who don't share your opinion as thin-skinned people who take offense at literally everything. You're making it sound like anyone who has the opinion that negative behavior should be discouraged, are the types to take to the forum if someone does as much as tell them that they should play more careful.

McFatal1 votes

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No, explaining things in a different perspective doesn't mean you're lashing out. Doing it in the manner you chose to do, however? Does. Look at what I quoted before. You've used a similar tone before and it's hardly what you'd call level headed, now is it? The fact that you paint people with a different view, as someone who cries for their mother at the first sign of adversity, does sort of point towards you seeing yourself as someone who've been mistreated for next to no reason. And, if nothing else, shows that you quite clearly take issue with your punishment and is far from 'fine' with it.

It really seems like you do, though.

Do you really not see how hostile you're being? You continue to paint people who don't share your opinion as thin-skinned people who take offense at literally everything. You're making it sound like anyone who has the opinion that negative behavior should be discouraged, are the types to take to the forum if someone does as much as tell them that they should play more careful.

It's like instead of focusing on the topic everyone is focusing on some made up story about me lashing out at people not agreeing with me. Fuck the opinion agreement . Give me reasons as to why you disagree and explain how u think differently .

MaeDoSan2 votes

I can understand this happening in bronze but how do these players survive then ? How long can they keep falling off the ladder and still stay that high up, and how did they manage to get that far up in the first place ?

CodyBear 2 votes

It's the poor matchmaking system.

Miror B1 votes

People play ranked because apparently rank determines skill (not sure why, as I learned how to play the majority of my "off-meta" stuff in norms with more open minded people). When people don't get their way in ranked, I like to think it's kinda a double-whammy of sorts as not only do you apparently look "unskilled" (again, I don't get that logic) but depending on the size of the person's ego they'll almost always assume that it isn't their fault (even if they go 0-15-0 with zero wards and like 500 total damage to enemies).

To suggest ranked is "hell" is a bit of an understatement, especially if you're like me and play the majority of your games solo. Flex-queue is almost unplayable as you'll often get stuck with players who are either far too new or far too stupid (often taking "First time" characters with the hopes that someone skilled will carry them out of it), with random reports/honors showing how ridiculously flawed the system is (teams honoring other team's feeders and reporting teammates for stupid stuff like stealing cs in lane). Solo queue, albeit slightly better, suffers from some of the same flaws only that there's the added bonus of almost hate-crime levels of toxicity, with people shedding all blame off themselves and telling others to "kill themselves" like it's some sort of cool saying nowadays ("Hey bruh, sup, kill yourself?"). If rito's playerbase somehow takes a nosedive, ranked will probably be the main culprit for it especially since the majority of their playerbase is located in bronze/silver (the "toxic tiers" ).

Ultimately, this game will consistently "feel" like a job for people because to others, it is. Much like how people play football/baseball/basketball to emulate their favorite athletes, people will do the same as long as the LCS exists. People will watch the LCS, see their favorite players play something, try it/first time it in solo queue with zero understanding of the mechanics, only to blame their teammates before watching the LCS again for new ideas. Wash, rinse, dry, dirty, repeat.

Pang Y2 votes

lol . no . most players play to win and get higher on the ladder. not just because it means "skill"

Kei1431 votes

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no one comes into league thinking "fuck my jungler and fuck my team" level 1.

it stems from the games where you're completely trapped for 40 minutes in your diamond promos with an intent feeder who has 20 deaths 15 minutes.

How did you let it go that bad in the first place?

Obviously something happened between lvl1 and those 15mins.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

So it is the game's fault? So like... Does the PC turn itself on, climb up into your lap, and start a league game on your account to force you to play it?

3ManBaronFTW1 votes

your 100% right ranked>trolls should be the method but its not the case its trolls>ranked players who care cuz its just a game

Telephone Booth1 votes

What you think SHOULD happen is irrelevant. Read the rules, follow them. And of course people realize why people are toxic. You must be new to the boards, since I've read your captive audience theory many times in many different ways but you seem to think no one has figured this out.

If achieving your goals is causing you so much anger, I think maybe it's a personal issue. I made a goal to get to Gold last season and fell short, unable to promote from silver 1. I didn't feel like utter shit... I felt like oh well it's just a game. Lol. Maybe mentally, you're putting too much weight on your rank. It seems like it's starting to wear on you, so I wish I could help you to not be so desperate to achieve your ranked goals. But I am no psychologist so good luck to you and please keep in mind, it's just a game. It's for fun. If you're not having fun, you should maybe stop playing or admit to yourself you're addicted and try fixing that. Unlike me, I'm addicted and I will continue to be an addict cuz this shit is just too fun.

BigBellBrute1 votes

People are toxic because they either cannot or will not control their behavior. It really is just as simple as that.

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