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Riot need to stop to invest against toxicity and start creating system against those guys!

1995 2017RiP Eva·3/5/2017, 2:38:28 PM·1 votes·593 views

Edit: i like how people downvote the post...its like they dont want a system that punish trolls/afkers/feeders but only want a system that allow them to continues doing that..hmmm weird right? i would have though that people want a system to have better games but i guess they only want to be victims ok then!

Now hear me out here i dont say toxicity is good! BUT there is a big BUT here and that is that the toxic person have a counter to his toxicity we just mute him! and he is gone

Plus a toxic person most of the times is someone who want to win hard and he is upset that someone feed (i have been in that situation we were all having negative scores and this guy was playing his top lane perfctly so he got upset and he was toxic to us) YEAH IT WAS MY FAULT that i was playing poorly ok so i understand him!

But anyway ofcourse we have others who curse because reasons but all of them already have been solved!

Now i will put down 3 categories that riot does NOTHING ABOUT

1-The AFK in side lanes guy!

This person would be afk he would nto say a a single word in the chat he would just be afk in side lanes never help in team fights or doing anything "But Alex he may just splitpush what you mean afk"

A splitpusher my fellow dude is someone that would help the team

An example would be! A dragon fight start the enemy tiop laner would TP to help the enemy team our top laner would not do anything he would just stay top "farming and pushing" but in reality you can see him that he just dosent care and he still havent got the enmy second top turret or bot turret and he is pretty much upset and afk but slowly pushing and dying again and again (yeah those kind of typers always have some negative score like 1/10 or something after they feeed the firtst blook then they proccess to just feed and afk in side lanes) so you know play the game 6vs4 because our laner is afk and the enemy laner not only easily stop his "split Push" but he is helping in team fights too because if someone doing a split push and not trolling wouldnt die again and again and the enemy team would need to send 2 people to kill him or catch him!

So its obvious that he is afk so what you do you report him! Guess what nothing HAPPEN to him because riot would go "oh well bad game" NO HE WAS AFK IN SIDE LANES

And if someone is "toxic to him" say to him "DUDE WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU PATHETIC TROLL" (I have see it) this guy would get insta banned

2-The feeder troll

This person is the type of guy who pick a champion that can be played AD or AP (he didnt enter the game with that mentality) but stay with me! So the game start this guy OBVIOUS buy an AD items but when he start dying he starts saying "omg the jungler never gank screw this"

And then you see that guy buying AP items selling his AD items and start feeding BUT he dosent go in and die he just troll build and die in side lanes (see example 1) and he type in the chat "oh well i die xd" and he type that on all chat trying to be funny or saying "damn dude you outplayed me" when he was just standing there dyinging doing nothing so the enemy team asks "dude wtf why you troll" and he say "no i dont troll i just have a bad game as AP X champion)

I have see it that too^

So the guy who would be again upset about this behavior the guy would get banned for "toxicity" but the person who feed and destroty the game he would get NOTHING

3-The afk jungler Now as a jungler i know the toxicity we get about "omg our jungler is bad he is afk farming" but not this is not the case here I am talking about the type of guy who plays normally at the first then he goes in and turret dive alone for no reason die and says "omg wtf dude why you dont help omg what ever" the ally would say "well it was not a good idea to turret dive a malp at lvl 3" the jungler say "yeah what ever accept it from now on"

So you say yeah what ever they have their argument this guy continues play all cool

NOPE this guy from now spend the rest of the time just farming the jungle ignore everything even if a fight happens next to him he will just pass by and go to other camp if all camps are clear he just sit and wait till the camps are back and he does do nothing he is his way of afk

And i have saw it that too!!

So Riot spend money hire people with PHD and stuff to solve the toxicity problem THE TOXICITY problem is already solved! It called mute

Now we need to find a way to stop THIS TYPE OF TROLLING

Plus if you check my match history there ia teemo player i will not name him but he have more than 6 games against me or in my team that he always troll build and goes 0/15 and stuff i have reported him 6 times in the ROW among with other players that reported him and he is still going unbanned

This person have destroy 6 games in the row this mean he destroy the gaming and the fun of 54 people (6x9) and he still goes unbanned

Now imagine a guy who was toxic in 2 games in the row to ONE person i have see it happening they play together cursing bla bla next game again together shitstorm again yeah what ever this perosn would get insta banned

If you dont see anything wrong with that behavior of riot and how the system work then what ever

13 Comments

Kei1433/5/2017, 2:42:06 PM4 votes

Hmmm...

So much misinformation in this post, I don't know where to start...

Especially hard when one is on mobile.

Touch My Box3/5/2017, 2:43:16 PM1 votes

I agree entirely, but Riot don't care. Only naughty wards cop a ban,

deathgod53/5/2017, 3:13:25 PM1 votes

Regarding your claims of toxicity control.

  1. The toxicity system is pretty much 100 percent automatic. The amount of time invested into this system is way lower then people think, the system is pretty much the same system as added in 2015(I think it was introduced in 2015) only some curse words get added in and some toxic sentences needed to be added. There is money and time that gets invested into anti toxicity, but it is not as much as you seem to think it is.

  2. It is true you can mute toxic players, however It is proven that teams with players that are toxic have a higher loss rate. This is because, even if you are smart enough to mute, many teammates get distracted and start flame wars against him. Extremely toxic players lower your win chance almost as much as many other ways of feeding.

  3. As a company, it is way worse to be known as a toxic community then anything else. T

As far as your examples are concerned:

  1. this is 100 percent somebody that can annoy you, but this could also just be a tactical disagreement in the eyes of a system. If somebody believes his best chances are with farming and you can't prove that he is malicious(because he is not inting or anything) it is impossible for a system to know the difference between an afk farmer and a splitpusher.

  2. The troll system they currently have is shit, I heard they are working on a better system(that checks builds and punishes people who are not moving during fights), but that could just be gossip. Also in lower levels of elo(think bronze 5) it would become extremely hard to discern a troll from a inexperienced player. I am with you on this one.

  3. Again this one is almost impossible to prove. When is somebody afk jungling and when is somebody power farming to catch up after a failed gank. I have had games where I lost early on as a jungler and went powerfarming until level 9 so I could get back into the game.

For as far as I am concerned, I mostly agree with the idea that the current troll detection software is not doing it's job. I also think that for players that leave the game as often as some players do, the punishments should be more harsh.

I don't think that the reason they haven't implemented a better anti troller software system is because they focus too much on anti toxicity. I think the reason they don't do this is because if you implement a too strict anti troll system, people that are not intending to troll will get screwed over.

Kitty Cat Tosha3/5/2017, 3:59:02 PM1 votes

Toxic people do NOT want to win. Maybe they want to at the start of the game, but the moment they start dragging everyone down with their verbal vomit, they've given up.

If you knew how much flaming decreases team morale and your chances to win, you'd not say such nonsense as "toxic people want to win".