Hey Riot, want to ban the toxic people but still make money from them? let them play together!

Weedbro··2 votes·519 views

Force all permabanned people to only be able play with or against other permabanned people, in an endless shitty hell of their own toxicity. It's such a fitting punishment.

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The Cream Reaper1 votes

"prisoner's island" has already been discussed and debunked as an option

Weedbro1 votes

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"prisoner's island" has already been discussed and debunked as an option

what were there reasons for debunking? I'm curious

Weedbro1 votes

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here you go

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4796564&page=2#post49503485

wow, i really expected better reasoning. these are not good reasons. i can already shoot them down immediately.

One, many offenders that get thrown into Prisoner's Island don't believe they belong there and look around them thinking "wow everyone else is so much worse than me why am I in here".

Oh yeah that isn't a daily thread topic. Oh, wait, it is. every. single. fucking. day. Someone says this. "Y U PERMABAN ME 4 DEFEDNING MYSELF?!?!!?" This already happens. Every. Day.

Two, many offenders end up creating a new account because it's extremely difficult for nuanced behaviors like verbal abuse to improve in a Prisoner's Island scenario; after all, placing 10 volatile players highly vulnerable to toxic triggers or highly prone to initiative toxic behaviors means that no one is reforming or improving over time.

People already make new accounts when you ban them. and ffs, don't you think that maybe people will.. .uhhh... make new accounts MORE OFTEN when you PERMANENTLY BAN THEM then when they have an account they can actually play? that's so illogical. That's the opposite of logic. Of course people are going to make more new accounts if you permanently ban them vs. letting them still play. Duh. Also, I'm guessing Riot's never heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion_therapy

They are wrong that no one is going to reform or improve. People reform and improve all the time when constantly, endlessly exposed to the exact same brand of their own problems, not only from aversion therapy but also just being around those people. Have you ever heard of Narcotics Anonymous? Riot has no idea what they are talking about and they REALLY need to take a class on human psych 101.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

if you google "riot lyte" and "prisoner's island" you can find a bunch more. that is just one example.

this is another

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4724797&page=5

look for Lyte's comments, starting with the above page of the discussion. as far as i can tell he talks about the concerns you've displayed above

Weedbro1 votes

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if you google "riot lyte" and "prisoner's island" you can find a bunch more. that is just one example.

this is another

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4724797&page=5

look for Lyte's comments, starting with the above page of the discussion. as far as i can tell he talks about the concerns you've displayed above

hahahha, this is pretty funny. dude seems to think that nobody will evolve and learn how to flame/troll without triggering the system which is exactly what I've been seeing in my games constantly. The idea doesn't even cross his mind, he's so confident.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4724797&page=8

The Cream Reaper1 votes

keep in mind that they are comments from 2014. if you're looking for more recent thoughts on it, be my guest searching for them!

or simply open a ticket and ask support. i guess that would work too

dude seems to think that nobody will evolve and learn how to flame/troll without triggering the system which is exactly what I've been seeing in my games constantly.

also if that were true, these boards would be void of complaints about "unjust punishments" and yet there's at least 10 daily posts, most of them a ban of one form of the other

General Esdeath 1 votes

To be fair, this isn't prisoner island in the conventional sense, you're never coming back, and it keeps permabanned players from making new accounts, or at least some of them.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

and it keeps permabanned players from making new accounts

https://ci.memecdn.com/4039464.jpg

General Esdeath 1 votes

SOME OF THEM

General Esdeath 1 votes

I'm sorry :(

not nam1 votes

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Weedbro1 votes

[{quoted}](name=very toxic riven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nGoo3kAO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-22T00:51:16.108+0000)

Not so great of an idea. This only creates more problems and makes them seem selfish and greedy.

really? what problems does it create? Seems the issue is toxic people ruining the game for non-toxic people. i guess I'm missing something?

OniZetsu6661 votes

I thought that was what a low priority que was for...to keep toxic,afkers,ect in lower sections of the game to keep playing and to let them stay in a festering pile while earning money from skins and what not.

JeLLö1 votes

Low priority queue has nothing to do with toxic players.

WHAT IS LEAVERBUSTER? LeaverBuster is a system we have implemented in order to discourage Summoners from repeatedly leaving matches and/or idling during gameplay. Summoners who exhibit this behavior and have a trend of leaving/idling in games will be placed in a low priority queue.

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